2020-21 NFL Season

[HutchwasClutch]

Maebee dale resurrect Wade Phillips, hey?

He's a great coordinator.

[The Sultan]

Maebee dale resurrect Wade Phillips, hey?

Honestly not a bad idea.

[HutchwasClutch]

Honestly not a bad idea.

He'll be 74 by next summer.   How long before you're looking for his replacement, 3 years at the outside? 

[4everwarriors]

Realistically, that's the upper limit for Rodgers and his window of opportunity anyway, hey?

[HutchwasClutch]

Realistically, that's the upper limit for Rodgers and his window of opportunity anyway, hey?

Yeah, I agree. I'd put it probably two years.  But that's a good point with respect to Phillips.  Has to be win now and urgency.

I'd be shocked if they would do it. Very un Packer like for such a bold move on their coaching staff.

[The Sultan]

I didn't realize he was that old, but still 3 years is fine for a coordinator.  A good young one could be a head coach in that time.

[cheebs09]

Yeah, I agree. I'd put it probably two years.  But that's a good point with respect to Phillips.  Has to be win now and urgency.

I'd be shocked if they would do it. Very un Packer like for such a bold move on their coaching staff.

Him and Lafleur were on the same staff in LA. Might not be a total long shot.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Stafford to the rams for goff and 2 first round picks, per adam schefter

[CreightonWarrior]

That's a lot for a guy with a couple years left.

[wadesworld]

Texans have to be licking their lips.

[Dish]

Hmm...

[Billy Hoyle]

Stafford to the rams for goff and 2 first round picks, per adam schefter

The Lions actually won a trade. This is the best I've felt about anything the Lions have done since ???

[nyg]

That's a lot for a guy with a couple years left.

More than a lot... Good for Detroit.
Stafford turning 33 next week, so he has more than a couple left.  Always liked him, let's see how a change of scenery and different offense does for him.

Goff probably devastated, going from LA to Detroit, good grief.  But, he has a massive salary and he'll survive. 

Houston going to want four number ones now for Watson, Jets not gonna do that.
Should be very interesting now that the first QB domino has fallen. 

[Dish]

Essentially all that happened here is the Lions are paying $43 million for two firsts and a third.

[jesmu84]

Who even has the capital to get Watson at this point?

[nyg]

Stafford 27 million a year, believe two years left.

Goff 33 million a year.

Detroit only gets a third rounder this year, then number ones in 2022 and 2023.

[The Sultan]

I don't think this is going to have much bearing on a Watson trade.

The Rams had to pay a ton to get the Goff contract off their hands. 

[Dish]

This trade should have zero bearing on Watson and any trade compensation. This was a classic NBA style trade.

I don't know if Goff will ever play a down for Detroit. The Lions simply paid cash for three draft picks.

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/BearDownJohnson/status/1355722250129985540?s=19

[JWags85]

Goff probably devastated, going from LA to Detroit, good grief.  But, he has a massive salary and he'll survive. 

Lifelong Cali kid playing in LA for an innovative offense driven HC....now goes to Detroit with meathead Campbell.  Sheesh.  At least he has Anthony Lynn to work with

[Dish]

The Rams chasing bad money by throwing assets away. That Goff contract should be a valuable lesson for any team to not extend a first round pick after year 3. I should re-state something, I don't think Goff starts for Detroit. He's just going to be there because he contractually has to be for at least two years. He's simply the cost of doing business in this deal.

It's a weird NFL trade, in the sense that both teams were openly public about trading their QB's. The Rams were desperate to get out of Goff's contract, the Lions were most likely getting offers of a 2021 1st and a mid round pick for Stafford. I don't know if either team really "wins" here. The Lions get that capital, but now carry a player with negative value at a massive dollar amount for two years.

The Watson takes that are out there are so dumb. Whatever Watson is worth isn't changing based on this deal, at all.

[MU82]

This trade should have zero bearing on Watson and any trade compensation.

Agree with you (and Sultan) here.

But I also agree with jesmu's suggestion that few if any teams have what the Texans seem to want for Watson.

I'd love the Panthers to get him, and they're often mentioned as a possibility, but I just don't see how it could happen.

[JWags85]

I don't think Goff starts for Detroit. He's just going to be there because he contractually has to be for at least two years. He's simply the cost of doing business in this deal.

I agree that he's likely not their long term QB of the future, but you really believe he's not going to start? He's not elite, but he was good enough to get them to the playoffs 3 of 4 years, 2 Pro Bowls, and a Super Bowl. Surely that's better than Blough or a 35 year old Chase Daniel.  I can't see them paying money for a guy in free agency when they have a starting caliber QB on a huge deal for a few years. And they have other big needs in the draft.

[Dish]

I agree that he's likely not their long term QB of the future, but you really believe he's not going to start? He's not elite, but he was good enough to get them to the playoffs 3 of 4 years, 2 Pro Bowls, and a Super Bowl. Surely that's better than Blough or a 35 year old Chase Daniel.  I can't see them paying money for a guy in free agency when they have a starting caliber QB on a huge deal for a few years. And they have other big needs in the draft.

I think Detroit's starter next year is going to be drafted in April. If anything, this trade gives them capital to move up from 7.

I mean maybe Goff starts weeks 1-6 as a seat warmer for Fields or Wilson, but if you asked me to put an o/u for Goff career starts as a Lion, I'd have it at 8.5.

Now if the Lions decide to tank 2021, that's a different story. That option exists where they throw Goff out there with a bad offensive group, and they tank for Howell. The Lions are not going to be good in '21 no matter who they draft. Their roster is thin, all of their wideouts are UFA's, Okudah needs to stay on the field and improve...it's not pleasant.

I'll put it a different way, if Goff was their clear cut starter, I don't think this trade happens at 10pm on a Saturday night.

[tower912]

Goff starts next year in Detroit unless they ship him out for more picks.   Pencil the Rams in for the NFC championship game.

New Lions GM came from the Rams.