2020-21 NFL Season

[Jockey]

Are you advocating keeping Pettine?

No. I've been pretty clear that I wanted him gone.

[HutchwasClutch]

No. I've been pretty clear that I wanted him gone.

I think we'll get our wish.  He was damn near fired after disaster in last season's NFC championship game

[4everwarriors]

Oh, did the Pack have a Special Teams coach, hey!

[wadesworld]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1354620875019071491

[nyg]

Texans hire Ravens asst coach David Culley.  Believe he is 65 years old, was passing coordinator and wr coach.  Never an offensive coordinator, so never called plays. 
Pretty shocking to be honest

That should go over real well with Texan players and fans.

As Jets fan, we'll give them #2 overall this year, Seattle's #1 next year, and another #1 down the road for Watson.  He is good as gone now, probably to Miami, where he requested though. 

[The Sultan]

So the Texans hire a 65 year old first time head coach, who has never been a coordinator, never called plays and was the "passing game coordinator" for a team that rarely passed the ball and when they did was pretty simplistic.

And they like him because he commands the room and will be like a CEO.  He will leave it to the coordinators to run the show.

OK then...

[tower912]

In comparison, the Lions look smart.     And that ain't easy. 

[JWags85]

So the Texans hire a 65 year old first time head coach, who has never been a coordinator, never called plays and was the "passing game coordinator" for a team that rarely passed the ball and when they did was pretty simplistic.

And they like him because he commands the room and will be like a CEO.  He will leave it to the coordinators to run the show.

OK then...

I kind of find it hilarious that with all the Bieniemy drama and discussions of minority coaches being hired, Leslie Frazier is an option...the Texans go and hire an minority coach on NOBODY's radar that makes very little sense. Just totally on brand for that mess of an organization.

That's no disrespect to Culley and he may end up being a good hire, the optics are just a bit amusing

[CreightonWarrior]

Needed to do it. One of worst in NFL.

Please let the replacement be someone whose coordinated good NFL ST units before.  They've sucked forever in this area because they always hire guys with  zero track record leading their own NFL unit. Time to stop on the job learning.

Lol looks like they'll be promoting from within with their #2 from the special teams staff.

[shoothoops]

Dan Culley worked with Andy Reid for 16 years. He also recently worked with Sean McDermott in Buffalo. McDermott of course, also worked with Reid for a decade, some of it with Culley.

[The Sultan]

Dan Culley worked with Andy Reid for 16 years. He also recently worked with Sean McDermott in Buffalo. McDermott of course, also worked with Reid for a decade, some of it with Culley.

He's been a lifetime position coach.  Its pretty rare for a first time coach at 60+ years old to be a success, much less someone who has never even been a coordinator before.

[shoothoops]

He's been a lifetime position coach.  Its pretty rare for a first time coach at 60+ years old to be a success, much less someone who has never even been a coordinator before.

Can't disagree that it's not common. But that's part of his background of explaining why in part he's getting an opportunity. 

[HutchwasClutch]

Lol looks like they'll be promoting from within with their #2 from the special teams staff.

Oh. My. Lord.

This is why their special teams has been near bottom of the league almost every year. 

It is mind boggling to fire a guy because you're unhappy with performance and feel it can be improved, only to replace him with the fired guy's assistant.  Beyond stupid!!   If Drayton is qualified for the job, why was there special teams a disaster with his help coordinating???

[cheebs09]

Oh. My. Lord.

This is why their special teams has been near bottom of the league almost every year. 

It is mind boggling to fire a guy because you're unhappy with performance and feel it can be improved, only to replace him with the fired guy's assistant.  Beyond stupid!!   If Drayton is qualified for the job, why was there special teams a disaster with his help coordinating???

Everybody that wants Stan to replace Wojo is firing up their talking points.

[wadesworld]

Wasn't Ron Zook promoted in the same way that Drayton was, and the special teams got even worse?

[MU82]

Everybody that The one Scooper who wants Stan to replace Wojo is firing up their his talking points.

FIFY

[HutchwasClutch]

Wasn't Ron Zook promoted in the same way that Drayton was, and the special teams got even worse?

Zook did get promoted that way, but their special teams were actually decent, nothing great, under him. Probably best they've been in McCarthy/ LaFleur years.

Think the guy you're talking about is Shawn Slocum. Promoted from assistant after guy ahead of him was fired, and they got worse under his watch.  He was terrible.

[Hards Alumni]

Zook did get promoted that way, but their special teams were actually decent, nothing great, under him. Probably best they've been in McCarthy/ LaFleur years.

Think the guy you're talking about is Shawn Slocum. Promoted from assistant after guy ahead of him was fired, and they got worse under his watch.  He was terrible.

No, no.  Ron Zook's special teams were abysmal too.  Cost us games.  Of course the punter and fg kicker were pretty good... but the coverage and return teams were abysmal.

And I'm pretty sure they cost us some important games. 

[HutchwasClutch]

No, no.  Ron Zook's special teams were abysmal too.  Cost us games.  Of course the punter and fg kicker were pretty good... but the coverage and return teams were abysmal.

And I'm pretty sure they cost us some important games. 

It was a mixed bag under him, but he lifted their units to 17th in 2015 after a last place finish the year before under Slocum, and 16th place in 2017.  His other two years weren't good. 

I honestly don't remember important game his unit blew?  Bostick/ Seattle was under Slocum.

[CreightonWarrior]

Confirmed Pettine won't be renewed.

[HutchwasClutch]

Confirmed Pettine won't be renewed.

I suppose they'll promote from within instead of getting someone who can get the job done. 

[The Sultan]

Be prepared for them to promote from within.  IMO Jerry Gray was brought here on a parallel move in the off-season for a reason.

And I know they like some of the other position coaches, like Jerry Montgomery on the DL, so they are going to want to keep some of those guys around.

[HutchwasClutch]

Be prepared for them to promote from within.  IMO Jerry Gray was brought here on a parallel move in the off-season for a reason.

And I know they like some of the other position coaches, like Jerry Montgomery on the DL, so they are going to want to keep some of those guys around.

It wouldn't surprise me at all either. I just think they're doing team a disservice by not seriously considering outside candidates, which Drayton's hire seems to have been. 

I might be ok with Gray and think too he'll get the job. He's been a coordinator, although think his results were just ok.  But he is apparently well respected around the league.

A guy I read about last night that is very intriguing to me is 49ers defensive line coach, Kris Kocurek.  Part of Saleh's staff, defensive line was excellent under him, players love him apparently.  Seems like he checks all the boxes of rising coaching star, and more than ready for promotion.  Someone will give him the opportunity soon I bet. Wish it would be Green Bay.     

[The Sultan]

I have no idea if he'd be any better than Gray. And I have no idea if Gray will be the guy. At this point I just have to trust those making the decisions.

[4everwarriors]

Maebee dale resurrect Wade Phillips, hey?