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The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 27, 2020, 10:40:53 AM
Whomever came up with the slogan "defund the police" should be fired. There has to be a better name for the police reform that is needed.


Well, some people think that Black Lives Matter is a socialist statement.

People hear what they want to hear...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 27, 2020, 01:05:28 PM

Well, some people think that Black Lives Matter is a socialist Marxist statement.

People hear what they want to hear...

FTFY.
Also, ever notice that the people railing the loudest about socialism and Marxism are usually the ones with the least idea what those words mean?

Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 27, 2020, 12:18:23 PM
Of course, this slogan is brought to you by the generation who has changed the definition of "literally." If all of the people in my Orange Theory classes who said they "literally died" from a workout and yet return the next day then we're on the verge of a zombie apocalypse.


Jockey

Quote from: forgetful on October 27, 2020, 11:24:55 AM
Rules for fraudulently stealing millions of dollars from students?
Rules for fraudulently stealing money (donations) intended for treating cancer in kids?


C'mon guys. Rules are for black and brown people.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 27, 2020, 01:05:28 PM

Well, some people think that Black Lives Matter is a socialist statement.

People hear what they want to hear...

And some people don't think that Black Lives Matter is a Marxist organization.

People see what they want to see.

The Sultan

#805
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 27, 2020, 02:47:29 PM
And some people don't think that Black Lives Matter is a Marxist organization.

Good thing I am intelligent enough to separate the intent behind statement from the LLC that chose to capitalize on it!
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

NCMUFan

Glad to see we are talking about Kenosha again.   ;D  Moderators, please shut down

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 27, 2020, 02:55:41 PM
Good thing I am intelligent enough to separate the intent behind statement from the LLC that chose to Marxise on it!

FIFY

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: BLM on October 27, 2020, 12:38:48 PM
Ahh.  Doesn't get an exaggeration and then gets annoyed because of it.

no, it's a statement that the same generation that runs with "we say defund but don't literally mean defund" is also the generation who has changed the definition of "literally." I don't get annoyed, I get amused. We used to do a drinking game with one girl we hung out with and take a drink every time she said "literally." Of course, the cracks in the veneer of "we don't actually mean defund when we say defund" are starting to appear with the "total abolition" crowd getting louder and louder.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 27, 2020, 04:55:42 PM
no, it's a statement that the same generation that runs with "we say defund but don't literally mean defund" is also the generation who has changed the definition of "literally." I don't get annoyed, I get amused. We used to do a drinking game with one girl we hung out with and take a drink every time she said "literally." Of course, the cracks in the veneer of "we don't actually mean defund when we say defund" are starting to appear with the "total abolition" crowd getting louder and louder.

You're new to the concept of colloquialism, I see.

WarriorFan

Back to the subject, is that cop in jail yet?
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

HouWarrior

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 27, 2020, 10:40:53 AM
Whomever came up with the slogan "defund the police" should be fired. There has to be a better name for the police reform that is needed.
I Agree. I hears one that I think strikes closer to the problem.
"De-militarize the police"
Pause. consider its nuances...yeah that works
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: houwarrior on November 08, 2020, 01:06:24 PM
I Agree. I hears one that I think strikes closer to the problem.
"De-militarize the police"
Pause. consider its nuances...yeah that works

"Reform."
'De-militarize."
"Reimagine."

That said, a decent portion of the "defund" crowd is also on the "abolish" train.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 08, 2020, 05:20:37 PM
"Reform."
'De-militarize."
"Reimagine."

That said, a decent portion of the "defund" crowd is also on the "abolish" train.

Define "decent portion." I don't know a single person who falls into that group. I'm guessing you and I have very different definitions of "decent portion."

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: BLM on November 08, 2020, 05:34:50 PM
Define "decent portion." I don't know a single person who falls into that group. I'm guessing you and I have very different definitions of "decent portion."

It may be where we are. In Portland and Seattle, far more than there should be and they're the loudest.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 08, 2020, 05:47:16 PM
It may be where we are. In Portland and Seattle, far more than there should be and they're the loudest.

So like a couple thousand in the country. Out of 330M people in America.

jesmu84

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 08, 2020, 05:20:37 PM
"Reform."
'De-militarize."
"Reimagine."

That said, a decent portion of the "defund" crowd is also on the "abolish" train.

Source?

naginiF

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 08, 2020, 05:57:01 PM
Source?
I saw ANTIFA pass out at 31-Flavors last night on his "abolish the police" sign

Uncle Rico

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1325796529890844677?s=21

I was informed it was Sterling Brown's fault his constitutional rights were violated
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 09, 2020, 07:57:49 AM
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1325796529890844677?s=21

I was informed it was Sterling Brown's fault his constitutional rights were violated


It would have been higher had he parked his car appropriately.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 09, 2020, 07:57:49 AM
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1325796529890844677?s=21

I was informed it was Sterling Brown's fault his constitutional rights were violated

Man, cops need to carry their own liability/malpractice insurance. Making the citizens of MKE pay for this stuff is not right.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 09, 2020, 08:06:41 AM
Man, cops need to carry their own liability/malpractice insurance. Making the citizens of MKE pay for this stuff is not right.

As a citizen of Milwaukee, it is INFURIATING
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2020, 08:00:21 AM

It would have been higher had he parked his car appropriately.

$750K parking ticket for the city of Milwaukee.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 09, 2020, 08:15:06 AM
As a citizen of Milwaukee, it is INFURIATING

I feel you. Chicago has spent $500MM on police settlements in the last past decade.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 09, 2020, 08:06:41 AM
Man, cops need to carry their own liability/malpractice insurance. Making the citizens of MKE pay for this stuff is not right.

I'm with you on how brutal the stats on settlements and related liabilities are, but anything takes a pebble from the public side of the law enforcement scale and puts it on the private side is probably a step in the wrong direction.

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