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The Sultan

In the long run, self-insuring is probably cheaper than getting liability insurance.  As MUBurrow points out, you are just paying a third party to move money around.

What would be the most cost-effective is to not get into situations where the Police act inappropriately because someone parks wrong at a Walgreeens.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 09, 2020, 08:15:06 AM
As a citizen of Milwaukee, it is INFURIATING

The 20 cities with the largest police departments have paid out over $2,000,000,000 in the last 5 years to settle police malpractice claims.

Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 10, 2020, 01:45:54 PM
NY Times on the aftermath in Kenosha:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/business/small-business-insurance-unrest-kenosha.html

That journalist understands less about insurance than many of the people that were interviewed.  That read like a freshman year in high school article.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on November 10, 2020, 01:58:30 PM
That journalist understands less about insurance than many of the people that were interviewed.  That read like a freshman year in high school article.

and yet their experiences with insurance are similar to some of my wife's clients' experiences who had businesses destroyed during rioting.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

reinko

Unfortunately not surprised...sad sad day

vogue65

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2020, 11:05:30 AM
In the long run, self-insuring is probably cheaper than getting liability insurance.  As MUBurrow points out, you are just paying a third party to move money around.

What would be the most cost-effective is to not get into situations where the Police act inappropriately because someone parks wrong at a Walgreeens.

Self insure the small stuff, buy liability for the big stuff.
To make a long story short, if a loss moves the needle on your bottom line, buy coverage.

Galway Eagle

The more I've read of the encounter the less horrible it seems. The officer has a point that if you're struggling with a guy and he's trying to escape while the mother is screaming "he has my kids" I could understand why he shot Blake. That being said, 7 shots in the back is excessive and obviously there could have been better alternatives to the end result.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Warriors4ever

A reporter on WGN radio says the Kenosha prosecutor is doing a press conference at the Brat Stop? Did I hear that right?
Just seems like an odd location.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 05, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
A reporter on WGN radio says the Kenosha prosecutor is doing a press conference at the Brat Stop? Did I hear that right?
Just seems like an odd location.

It says the same thing in the Chicago Tribune article. It really does seem like a strange location.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-jacob-blake-kenosha-shooting-police-charges-decision-20210104-edxoyst26rbqvl44dyvuf5grvy-story.html

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 05, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
A reporter on WGN radio says the Kenosha prosecutor is doing a press conference at the Brat Stop? Did I hear that right?
Just seems like an odd location.

You heard right.  He kept the location secret until 45 minutes before the presser to avoid protests. 
Ludum habemus.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 05, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
A reporter on WGN radio says the Kenosha prosecutor is doing a press conference at the Brat Stop? Did I hear that right?
Just seems like an odd location.

The Four Seasons Landscaping was booked.

Jockey

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 05, 2021, 05:25:56 PM
The Four Seasons Landscaping was booked.

This made me laugh.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 05, 2021, 04:57:59 PM
It says the same thing in the Chicago Tribune article. It really does seem like a strange location.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-jacob-blake-kenosha-shooting-police-charges-decision-20210104-edxoyst26rbqvl44dyvuf5grvy-story.html

I lived at the hotel next door for 3 months while working in the area (free beer every night was a nice benefit). It actually a sensible location. Right off of the expressway, away from downtown, large banquet facilities behind the restaurant.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Spaniel with a Short Tail


wadesworld

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 05, 2021, 05:25:56 PM
The Four Seasons Landscaping was booked.

My entire family got Four Seasons Landscaping tshirts from me for Christmas. They could probably shut down their landscaping business and become millionaires just from their merchandise. Book some pressers at their office too.


Hards Alumni

Quote from: shoothoops on January 14, 2021, 08:24:08 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-out-bail-flashed-white-power-signs-bar-prosecutors-n1254250

Imagine being stupid enough to go to a bar in Racine County
Imagine being stupid enough to wear a shirt like that while out on bail
Imagine being stupid enough to flash a white power sign while doing both of these things

Imagine being stupid enough to defend this boy's behavior. 


Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 14, 2021, 08:49:37 AM
Imagine being stupid enough to go to a bar in Racine County
Imagine being stupid enough to wear a shirt like that while out on bail
Imagine being stupid enough to flash a white power sign while doing both of these things

Imagine being stupid enough to defend this boy's behavior.

Key phrase is "boy." He's just a dopey, high school dropout being used by powerful people who don't care the least about his long-term interests and will kick him to the curb as soon as he's no longer useful to them. And the one person who ought to be looking out for him, his mother, instead is using his infamy to enrich herself.

MUfan12

Quote from: Pakuni on January 14, 2021, 08:59:18 AM
Key phrase is "boy." He's just a dopey, high school dropout being used by powerful people who don't care the least about his long-term interests and will kick him to the curb as soon as he's no longer useful to them. And the one person who ought to be looking out for him, his mother, instead is using his infamy to enrich herself.

Bingo. I almost feel bad for him. Almost.

Warriors4ever

When I was a PD in Juvenile Court, I had a teenager come to court sans any parents wearing a tshirt that resembled a Coca-Cola slogan but said Things Go Better with Cocaine. In 1980 or so, so stupidity is nothing new. He tried to tell me he had a First Amendment right to do so when I tried to metaphorically slap him upside the head.


Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on January 14, 2021, 08:59:18 AM
Key phrase is "boy." He's just a dopey, high school dropout being used by powerful people who don't care the least about his long-term interests and will kick him to the curb as soon as he's no longer useful to them. And the one person who ought to be looking out for him, his mother, instead is using his infamy to enrich herself.

He's an adult now, and made an adult decision when he pulled that trigger.  Sure, he's being used, and his mother is scum, but he also isn't a boy.

Warriors4ever

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051

Actually brains aren't fully developed until the mid-20's, especially the ability to think rationally.
The parents are clearly beyond the point of help though.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 14, 2021, 10:16:26 AM
https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051

Actually brains aren't fully developed until the mid-20's, especially the ability to think rationally.
The parents are clearly beyond the point of help though.

Right, but I think most of us figure out that it isn't okay to shoot people from a very young age.

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