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MU82

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on August 13, 2021, 09:07:17 PM
As a resident your input on Florida makes sense.  Olberman's man crush on Death Santis just confuses me.

You're funny, Tucker.

But really ... stop supporting someone who doesn't care if you live or die.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pacearrow02

Quote from: MU82 on August 13, 2021, 09:47:54 PM
You're funny, Tucker.

But really ... stop supporting someone who doesn't care if you live or die.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Still need to scroll pretty far down to find Death Santis on the list of governors who don't give a rip if you live or die.


pbiflyer

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on August 13, 2021, 10:37:28 PM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Still need to scroll pretty far down to find Death Santis on the list of governors who don't give a rip if you live or die.

In the last week, we only fall below Louisiana in cases per capita. And as noted above, his new death stats are bogus.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Pakuni on August 13, 2021, 05:33:41 PM
I'm just trying to reconcile how COVID is both a bioweapon and something that doesn't exist.
She seems nice. But her bioweapon comment was about "the jab".

Oh, and Trump won...though I'm wondering why Trump created a bioweapon vaccine?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.


MU82

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on August 13, 2021, 10:37:28 PM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Still need to scroll pretty far down to find Death Santis on the list of governors who don't give a rip if you live or die.

He is actively and aggressively fighting anyone who is trying to use readily available, proven means to limit the spread of a highly contagious, often debilitating, sometimes deadly virus.

He doesn't give a shyte about you.

But hey, at least he's begging the feds for extra ventilators to try to save the Floridians who get severe COVID-19 on his watch, so maybe I'm being too hard on him.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Governor Deathsentence said this week that he was unaware of the request to the federales for more ventilators.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on August 14, 2021, 02:15:59 PM
Governor Deathsentence said this week that he was unaware of the request to the federales for more ventilators.

Good to know that he's up on what's happening in his administration.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-two-thirds-americans-support-195726766.html

Roughly the same number of people who support vaccinations support mask mandates.      Odd.     
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on August 18, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nearly-two-thirds-americans-support-195726766.html

Roughly the same number of people who support vaccinations support mask mandates.      Odd.     

I call them the "silent majority"
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 18, 2021, 07:19:54 PM
I call them the "silent majority"

I call them the "sane majority."

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on August 18, 2021, 08:14:00 PM
I call them the "sane majority."

I agree with your sentiment but as I hike along SF Bay this afternoon, 80% of the people out for a walk/hike are alone and masked up. These are not people in gathering groups. As the NYT and the CDC have said, you have near zero chance catching COVID like this outside and even less of a chance if double vaccinated. I may have better odds catching gonnorrhea from a toilet seat.

Let me preface this to say that this is young and old, all ethnicities, all genders, no kids around. SF isn't even a hotspot. Are people this crazed all over outside?

Johnny B

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 18, 2021, 08:47:34 PM
I agree with your sentiment but as I hike along SF Bay this afternoon, 80% of the people out for a walk/hike are alone and masked up. These are not people in gathering groups. As the NYT and the CDC have said, you have near zero chance catching COVID like this outside and even less of a chance if double vaccinated. I may have better odds catching gonnorrhea from a toilet seat.

Let me preface this to say that this is young and old, all ethnicities, all genders, no kids around. SF isn't even a hotspot. Are people this crazed all over outside?
yeah thats way over the top. wear masks indoors in crowded areas. get vaxxed but this is wierd. might as well wear a helmet at all times walking around NYC in case somthing falls off a building.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 18, 2021, 08:47:34 PM
I agree with your sentiment but as I hike along SF Bay this afternoon, 80% of the people out for a walk/hike are alone and masked up. These are not people in gathering groups. As the NYT and the CDC have said, you have near zero chance catching COVID like this outside and even less of a chance if double vaccinated. I may have better odds catching gonnorrhea from a toilet seat.

Let me preface this to say that this is young and old, all ethnicities, all genders, no kids around. SF isn't even a hotspot. Are people this crazed all over outside?

That's more intense than the northeast.  I would say that since people have been facing breakthroughs masking indoors is way up even before the cdc reversed course or local govt acted. 

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 18, 2021, 09:08:57 PM
That's more intense than the northeast.  I would say that since people have been facing breakthroughs masking indoors is way up even before the cdc reversed course or local govt acted.

I may add we also have the fires, but the smoke is not really here. Folks are unduly paranoid and I think it affects mental health to be honest.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 18, 2021, 09:14:29 PM
I may add we also have the fires, but the smoke is not really here. Folks are unduly paranoid and I think it affects mental health to be honest.

I was in Cleveland a few weeks ago and it looked like I was in Delhi.  The fires have had a crazy impact across the nation so I can't imagine what it looks like closer to the impacted area.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 18, 2021, 09:17:06 PM
I was in Cleveland a few weeks ago and it looked like I was in Delhi.  The fires have had a crazy impact across the nation so I can't imagine what it looks like closer to the impacted area.

The Santa Ana's haven't started yet (September) so not bad in SF (the Chico fire two years ago was bad as the winds shift from East to West and then the Pacific vacuums that smoke right down the Golden Gate). I heard it's bad in The Valley, though.

pacearrow02

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/1428132783717855237

Jake Tapper in a rare journalistic moment, gently calling out the absolute hypocrisy of having mask mandates in schools but not vaccines mandates.


ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 18, 2021, 08:47:34 PM
I agree with your sentiment but as I hike along SF Bay this afternoon, 80% of the people out for a walk/hike are alone and masked up. These are not people in gathering groups. As the NYT and the CDC have said, you have near zero chance catching COVID like this outside and even less of a chance if double vaccinated. I may have better odds catching gonnorrhea from a toilet seat.

Let me preface this to say that this is young and old, all ethnicities, all genders, no kids around. SF isn't even a hotspot. Are people this crazed all over outside?

That's daily in Madison.   Plus the people alone in their car, windows up, and masked.

People want to be afraid of something.  And have something to rely upon the government for to run their lives.

JWags85

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 18, 2021, 09:14:29 PM
I may add we also have the fires, but the smoke is not really here. Folks are unduly paranoid and I think it affects mental health to be honest.

Totally agree.  A woman in my complex, who I know from previous conversations is both vaccinated and had COVID in April pre-vaccination, was sitting on her front patio, reading in a mask.  A younger couple down the hall from me we are friendly with, also fully vaxxed, have been wearing masks when walking their dogs on the trail each day.  My fiancee had a chat with them and the BF mentioned that they "just thought we should".  Its all a bit flying in the face of "following the science" and definitely trending towards paranoia as you say.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on August 18, 2021, 11:44:00 PM
That's daily in Madison.   Plus the people alone in their car, windows up, and masked.

People want to be afraid of something.  And have something to rely upon the government for to run their lives.



Its like a baby's pacifier for an adult, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

I was actually going to use the security blanket metaphor.  I don't think people want to "rely on the government" for something, but I do think its a combination between paranoia and security - which can be a fine line.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on August 18, 2021, 11:44:00 PM
That's daily in Madison.   Plus the people alone in their car, windows up, and masked.

I know several people who do this. Not because they're afraid of anything, but because they wear a mask all day at work, get used to it and forget to take it off.
I know you're super smart, but don't assume you know what's going on in everyone else's minds.

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People want to be afraid of something.  And have something to rely upon the government for to run their lives.

Crisis at the Border!

MUfan12

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 19, 2021, 05:52:09 AM
I was actually going to use the security blanket metaphor.  I don't think people want to "rely on the government" for something, but I do think its a combination between paranoia and security - which can be a fine line.

Yep.

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