Masks

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I actually login just to read his insanity, comical at this point....and what's with Biden saying yesterday he'd sign an EO mandating masks and then tonight he says he can't!?!?!?  Why the flip flopping

Russian disinformation troll says what?

[rocky_warrior]

From the article Zig posted in the main thread:

https://elemental.medium.com/amp/p/30430384e5a5

A clear example of the benefits of masks is a recent outbreak in South Korea, in which one woman at a Starbucks infected 27 other customers — whom officials assume were not wearing masks because they were eating and drinking — but none of the employees, all of whom were masked the entire time.

So, I hadn't seen this yet, but also confirms a myth that started early "mask are to protect others, they do little to protect you". I've repeated those words, though usually modified the phrase  to say "mostly to protect others".  I always suspected official guidance was underplaying how much a mask could also protect *you* from others. 

Healthcare professionals are wearing masks to protect themselves from getting sick, why wouldn't it magically work for the common public too? Of course, type of mask, fit, and handling are important.  So it's ignorant to say they don't protect you at all, but it's also foolish to assume they provide 100% protection.

/rant

[pacearrow02]

Russian disinformation troll says what?

I guess I'll ask you again....can you point to a piece of disinformation from that post.  Was it a bad choice in the source of the link absolutely but I posted another link shortly after from the actual study.  The information in the RT link was consistent and accurate from the findings of the study. 

[naginiF]

I guess I'll ask you again....can you point to a piece of disinformation from that post.  Was it a bad choice in the source of the link absolutely but I posted another link shortly after from the actual study.  The information in the RT link was consistent and accurate from the findings of the study.

Do you even know if TSmith holds the appropriate socioeconomic position to be allowed to post? I'd assume you'd want to validate that before you acknowledge his right to be here.

[pacearrow02]

Do you even know if TSmith holds the appropriate socioeconomic position to be allowed to post? I'd assume you'd want to validate that before you acknowledge his right to be here.

WTF??

[shoothoops]

Herman Cain's team and family:

"It's time for the obsessive mask wearing to wear off."

https://twitter.com/thehermancain/status/1307017174188351488

[shoothoops]

Homeland Security, Atlanta, GA, Chipotle:

https://twitter.com/charlesbethea/status/1306997119157444610?s=19

https://twitter.com/charlesbethea/status/1307000684248805376?s=19

[naginiF]

WTF??

My mistake, confused you with ElonMusk. Sorry

[tower912]

Herman Cain's team and family:

"It's time for the obsessive mask wearing to wear off."

https://twitter.com/thehermancain/status/1307017174188351488

Well, it isn't his problem anymore.

[pacearrow02]

My mistake, confused you with ElonMusk. Sorry

👍👍

[Warriors4ever]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-mask-demonstrator-ejected-disney-211712646.html

So this conspiracy nut was not only maskless at Disney World, but misquoted A Bug's Life..

[GB Warrior]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-mask-demonstrator-ejected-disney-211712646.html

So this conspiracy nut was not only maskless at Disney World, but misquoted A Bug's Life..

In his defense I try to forget that movie exists

[shoothoops]

San Antonio, Texas.

Teacher fired for declining to stop wearing Black Lives Matter Mask:

https://www.10tv.com/amp/article/news/national/former-charter-school-teacher-fired-after-declining-to-stop-wearing-black-lives-matter-mask/273-3c42e74a-1572-444e-a798-68e7b541e0a4?__twitter_impression=true

[The Sultan]

"Despite being told not to wear the mask more than once, White continued doing so, stressing she's committed to the cause surrounding Black Lives Matter."

""It was really stressful because I have a financial obligation to help support my family," White said."


Well I mean cmon...

[rocky_warrior]

Well, there's a lawsuit coming...

[GooooMarquette]

Meanwhile in North Dakota....

https://www.inforum.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6668415-Why-some-North-Dakotans-wont-wear-masks

A group known as the North Dakota Freedom Fighters recently changed its name to North Dakota Freedom Defenders online. With about 1,900 members, the group's goal is to discuss and carry out actions they can take as citizens to defend their freedoms, according to the group's Facebook page.

Julie Neidlinger, a freelance artist and author, is listed as an administrator of North Dakota Freedom Defenders. In an email response to questions, Neidlinger said six months of mask wearing has done little to slow the spread of the virus.

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Shocking that they are leading the country in cases per capita over the past seven days...and pulling away.

[Hards Alumni]

Meanwhile in North Dakota....

https://www.inforum.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6668415-Why-some-North-Dakotans-wont-wear-masks

A group known as the North Dakota Freedom Fighters recently changed its name to North Dakota Freedom Defenders online. With about 1,900 members, the group's goal is to discuss and carry out actions they can take as citizens to defend their freedoms, according to the group's Facebook page.

Julie Neidlinger, a freelance artist and author, is listed as an administrator of North Dakota Freedom Defenders. In an email response to questions, Neidlinger said six months of mask wearing has done little to slow the spread of the virus.

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Shocking that they are leading the country in cases per capita over the past seven days...and pulling away.

"six months"

I bet this guy takes himself seriously.

[Jockey]

Or that Wisconsin is catching up. Religious freedom? Yup.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/brookfield/2020/09/29/federal-court-rules-favor-brookfield-resident-lawsuit/3561068001/

[Skatastrophy]

Or that Wisconsin is catching up. Religious freedom? Yup.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/brookfield/2020/09/29/federal-court-rules-favor-brookfield-resident-lawsuit/3561068001/

Wow, she's quite the bigot

> After being told by school board president Scott Wheeler that defamatory comments should be avoided, Anderson directly addressed board member Hassan, who is Muslim.

> "This is not defamatory," Anderson said. "I'm stating facts. You're a leader of the Islamic community, are you not? My kids are Christians. They are not subject to face coverings. Christian children should not be forced to wear face coverings any more than children who are Islamic or Muslim should be forced to — as you've put it — be subject to the American style of sexualization of children that have to wear less clothing than you're comfortable with your children wearing."

[GooooMarquette]

Wow, she's quite the bigot

> After being told by school board president Scott Wheeler that defamatory comments should be avoided, Anderson directly addressed board member Hassan, who is Muslim.

> "This is not defamatory," Anderson said. "I'm stating facts. You're a leader of the Islamic community, are you not? My kids are Christians. They are not subject to face coverings. Christian children should not be forced to wear face coverings any more than children who are Islamic or Muslim should be forced to — as you've put it — be subject to the American style of sexualization of children that have to wear less clothing than you're comfortable with your children wearing."

Unbelievable. And enough people share similar opinions about masks to stretch this thing straight through to next spring, with no significant reprieve. Any sense of community and the common good is dying in this country, replaced by me, me, me....

[shoothoops]

Cleveland, Ohio


https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1311109824189534208

[pbiflyer]

Cleveland, Ohio


https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1311109824189534208

'Murica, land of the free, home of the stupid!

[jesmu84]

Cleveland, Ohio


https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1311109824189534208

If it's a requirement of that facility, shouldn't they have been forced to leave?

[shoothoops]

If it's a requirement of that facility, shouldn't they have been forced to leave?

Yes.

[GooooMarquette]

If it's a requirement of that facility, shouldn't they have been forced to leave?

Ideally, yes; practically speaking, hard to say.

Mayo Clinic took a lot of crap earlier for allowing Pence in despite his refusal to wear a mask. And while critics understandably said 'they should have just kicked him out,' the reality is that HHS holds a lot of power over healthcare entities. Anything from research funding to threats of costly site visits and more. Even if the entity had done nothing wrong and might ultimately prevail, the administration can cause nightmarish and costly problems out of spite. Under most administrations, I wouldn't compromise safety over a fear of spiteful reprisals. Under this one, I might.

So should Cleveland Clinic handled it differently? Ideally, yes; practically speaking, hard to say....