MU Lacrosse Recruit loses scholly over racist Instagram post.

[Mr. Nielsen]

The Riverhead News-Review said the student, Leah Zenk, wrote a message on Snapchat to explain the post. A screenshot of the post was shared with the News-Review, and it read:

"What happened to Mr. Floyd is terrible. I never said it wasn't. What I wrote was worded poorly and then taken out of context. Kneeling on someone's neck and kneeling during the National Anthem are both disturbing. The fact that Mr. Floyd died is horrible. But it is equally horrible that our servicemen and women die every day protecting this country along with preserving the rights that allow people to kneel if they want to and then gets taken for granted. I am a PROUD PATRIOT. I will stand by my country and will apologize to no one for that. My deepest sympathies go out to the Floyd family and all the families whose lives have been turned upside down by what is happening in Minnesota."

https://riverheadnewsreview.timesreview.com/2020/06/100617/riverhead-seniors-college-admission-athletic-scholarship-rescinded-after-racist-social-media-post/

[Pakuni]

You're not helping yourself, Leah.
Mom and dad need to take away your iPhone.

[wadesworld]

Her and Drew Brees are hopefully learning that "Yeah but..." is never a good response when discussing racial discrimination/injustice.

[shoothoops]

The Riverhead News-Review said the student, Leah Zenk, wrote a message on Snapchat to explain the post. A screenshot of the post was shared with the News-Review, and it read:

"What happened to Mr. Floyd is terrible. I never said it wasn't. What I wrote was worded poorly and then taken out of context. Kneeling on someone's neck and kneeling during the National Anthem are both disturbing. The fact that Mr. Floyd died is horrible. But it is equally horrible that our servicemen and women die every day protecting this country along with preserving the rights that allow people to kneel if they want to and then gets taken for granted. I am a PROUD PATRIOT. I will stand by my country and will apologize to no one for that. My deepest sympathies go out to the Floyd family and all the families whose lives have been turned upside down by what is happening in Minnesota."

https://riverheadnewsreview.timesreview.com/2020/06/100617/riverhead-seniors-college-admission-athletic-scholarship-rescinded-after-racist-social-media-post/

.....and she also posted Hispanic racial slurs in 2017.....

[ZiggysFryBoy]

.....and she also posted Hispanic racial slurs in 2017.....

How did MU not do their research on this person?

[Galway Eagle]

So essentially her point is People die every day preserving the right to kneel so when you utilize that right it's equally as disturbing as kneeling on someone's neck till they die?

Dude she should've stayed silent unless her plan is to play at Liberty

[Mr. Nielsen]

Her and Drew Brees are hopefully learning that "Yeah but..." is never a good response when discussing racial discrimination/injustice.

Drew Brees?

[wadesworld]

Drew Brees?

Yes.  Drew Brees.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Yes.  Drew Brees.

Sounded like he was talking about the flag and the national anthem.

[MU82]

Wow.

On the plus side ... when Ners gets into politics, she can be his publicist.

[dgies9156]

There is also the practical reason of it being a PR nightmare to let her show up on campus in the Fall. 

Jesus was a PR nightmare too.

He challenged the prevailing authority. He taught a philosophy that was highly contrarian at the time and was rejected by many in his homeland. He hung around with sinners and tax collectors. The dregs of society. Women who scripture strongly suggests sold themselves.

The question is who Marquette identifies with? It's easy to shroud ourselves in virtue and good and have the university do as the elders, chief priests and Romans did in Jesus' time -- cast him out and hope the problem goes away. Or, Marquette can practice Jesus' teaching, sit the young lady down, have her acknowledge she made a mistake and see if she's repentant. If she is, she should be welcomed her back the way Jesus did repentant sinners in his time.

Are we the Pharisees, who are proud of our virtue and wrap ourselves in it? Or are we true followers of Jesus, who practice forgiveness, repentance and inclusiveness. Sister Chick is right in her post elsewhere, there are many obstacles to doing this and the implication for integration with those the young woman offended is great. But We Are Marquette means something -- we don't tolerate racism but we also "forgive those who trespass against us."

[warriorchick]

Jesus was a PR nightmare too.

He challenged the prevailing authority. He taught a philosophy that was highly contrarian at the time and was rejected by many in his homeland. He hung around with sinners and tax collectors. The dregs of society. Women who scripture strongly suggests sold themselves.

The question is who Marquette identifies with? It's easy to shroud ourselves in virtue and good and have the university do as the elders, chief priests and Romans did in Jesus' time -- cast him out and hope the problem goes away. Or, Marquette can practice Jesus' teaching, sit the young lady down, have her acknowledge she made a mistake and see if she's repentant. If she is, she should be welcomed her back the way Jesus did repentant sinners in his time.

Are we the Pharisees, who are proud of our virtue and wrap ourselves in it? Or are we true followers of Jesus, who practice forgiveness, repentance and inclusiveness. Sister Chick is right in her post elsewhere, there are many obstacles to doing this and the implication for integration with those the young woman offended is great. But We Are Marquette means something -- we don't tolerate racism but we also "forgive those who trespass against us."

Sorry, Brother D, she wasn't Jesus.  She was one of the people in the crowd shouting "Crucify Him!"

[vogue65]

Your post incorrectly implies that there aren't any racists at Marquette. Every single poster here knew someone or some people, or perhaps several people that were racists at MU. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. Some just hide it better. I'm not even going to take the time to explain the varied specifics of Texas. Clearly you haven't spent much or any time there.

You couldn't pay me to go to Texas, again.  They are a separate country and act that way.

[shoothoops]

Jesus was a PR nightmare too.

He challenged the prevailing authority. He taught a philosophy that was highly contrarian at the time and was rejected by many in his homeland. He hung around with sinners and tax collectors. The dregs of society. Women who scripture strongly suggests sold themselves.

The question is who Marquette identifies with? It's easy to shroud ourselves in virtue and good and have the university do as the elders, chief priests and Romans did in Jesus' time -- cast him out and hope the problem goes away. Or, Marquette can practice Jesus' teaching, sit the young lady down, have her acknowledge she made a mistake and see if she's repentant. If she is, she should be welcomed her back the way Jesus did repentant sinners in his time.

Are we the Pharisees, who are proud of our virtue and wrap ourselves in it? Or are we true followers of Jesus, who practice forgiveness, repentance and inclusiveness. Sister Chick is right in her post elsewhere, there are many obstacles to doing this and the implication for integration with those the young woman offended is great. But We Are Marquette means something -- we don't tolerate racism but we also "forgive those who trespass against us."

She was offered the chance to apologize and show enlightenment, and, she doubled down. It has also come out that she is a repeat offender over a multi-year period.

Forgive doesn't mean forget. Let me know when she sits down and listens to Black and Hispanic people that can educate her. Let me know when she spends weekly time working with people in those communities to gain a better understanding and changed position. Then I will take a look down the road if and when that happens. In the mean time, perhaps read the quotes from her offended minority peers and teammates. Maybe walk in their shoes first.

[wadesworld]

Sounded like he was talking about the flag and the national anthem.

Right. Drew was asked about the players taking a knee to stand against injustice in the country and Drew decided to talk about it being disrespectful to people who fight for the country.

Like I said, hopefully he's learning.

[Pakuni]

Jesus was a PR nightmare too.

He challenged the prevailing authority. He taught a philosophy that was highly contrarian at the time and was rejected by many in his homeland. He hung around with sinners and tax collectors. The dregs of society. Women who scripture strongly suggests sold themselves.

The question is who Marquette identifies with? It's easy to shroud ourselves in virtue and good and have the university do as the elders, chief priests and Romans did in Jesus' time -- cast him out and hope the problem goes away. Or, Marquette can practice Jesus' teaching, sit the young lady down, have her acknowledge she made a mistake and see if she's repentant. If she is, she should be welcomed her back the way Jesus did repentant sinners in his time.

Are we the Pharisees, who are proud of our virtue and wrap ourselves in it? Or are we true followers of Jesus, who practice forgiveness, repentance and inclusiveness. Sister Chick is right in her post elsewhere, there are many obstacles to doing this and the implication for integration with those the young woman offended is great. But We Are Marquette means something -- we don't tolerate racism but we also "forgive those who trespass against us."

A teenager offering bad racial takes on social media is very much Iike Jesus.

[shoothoops]

Wendell Pierce creates a thread and breaks it down for Drew Brees:

https://twitter.com/WendellPierce/status/1268310098553823233?s=19

[Jockey]

You're not helping yourself, Leah.
Mom and dad need to take away your iPhone.

She saw my "people that make racist comments overwhelmingly tend to be racist people" post and wanted to make sure all you guys knew I was right.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Jesus was a PR nightmare too.

He challenged the prevailing authority. He taught a philosophy that was highly contrarian at the time and was rejected by many in his homeland. He hung around with sinners and tax collectors. The dregs of society. Women who scripture strongly suggests sold themselves.

The question is who Marquette identifies with? It's easy to shroud ourselves in virtue and good and have the university do as the elders, chief priests and Romans did in Jesus' time -- cast him out and hope the problem goes away. Or, Marquette can practice Jesus' teaching, sit the young lady down, have her acknowledge she made a mistake and see if she's repentant. If she is, she should be welcomed her back the way Jesus did repentant sinners in his time.

Are we the Pharisees, who are proud of our virtue and wrap ourselves in it? Or are we true followers of Jesus, who practice forgiveness, repentance and inclusiveness. Sister Chick is right in her post elsewhere, there are many obstacles to doing this and the implication for integration with those the young woman offended is great. But We Are Marquette means something -- we don't tolerate racism but we also "forgive those who trespass against us."

I'm glad my stupidities weren't in indelible ink, but so goes the times. 

This is disturbing, not so much for the person, but for the reflection of who we are. 

Marquette had no choice to reaffirm who we are due to the public nature of this ignorant proclamation. 

Care for the person is not thrown away with this decision and I'm sure there are multiple ways to heal that wound Over time.   

None of us are who we are at our worst (or best)

[vogue65]

Why debate analogues, or semantics?
Why argue "What would Jesus do"?
Racism is not a subject for debate.
I/we don't associate with, try to educate, persuade or argue with racists or bigots.
Therefore, they are persona non grata, to be shunned.
Case closed, dog's dead.

[dgies9156]

I'm afraid ya'll don't get it.

This is not about condoning racism or a racist uttering. Not in the least.

It's about how a follower of Jesus' teachings, which is what Marquette purports to be, handles sinfulness and anger. Jesus taught us not to turn our back on sinfulness but to seek redemption through forgiveness.

That said, we're also trying to play like we're inside the woman's head. There's a fundamental difference between a racist uttering and racism. We've all done the former at one point or another, because we sin and make mistakes. But none of know whether this woman made a racist uttering or is a avowed and confirmed racist.

A racist uttering is a sign of racism. It does not, by itself, define you as a racist.

That, folks, is my point.

[The Sultan]

I'm afraid ya'll don't get it.

This is not about condoning racism or a racist uttering. Not in the least.

It's about how a follower of Jesus' teachings, which is what Marquette purports to be, handles sinfulness and anger. Jesus taught us not to turn our back on sinfulness but to seek redemption through forgiveness.

That said, we're also trying to play like we're inside the woman's head. There's a fundamental difference between a racist uttering and racism. We've all done the former at one point or another, because we sin and make mistakes. But none of know whether this woman made a racist uttering or is a avowed and confirmed racist.

A racist uttering is a sign of racism. It does not, by itself, define you as a racist.

That, folks, is my point.

I get it.

I also get why Marquette did what they did.

The world isn't full of easy, binary choices.

[shoothoops]

I'm afraid ya'll don't get it.

This is not about condoning racism or a racist uttering. Not in the least.

It's about how a follower of Jesus' teachings, which is what Marquette purports to be, handles sinfulness and anger. Jesus taught us not to turn our back on sinfulness but to seek redemption through forgiveness.

That said, we're also trying to play like we're inside the woman's head. There's a fundamental difference between a racist uttering and racism. We've all done the former at one point or another, because we sin and make mistakes. But none of know whether this woman made a racist uttering or is a avowed and confirmed racist.

A racist uttering is a sign of racism. It does not, by itself, define you as a racist.

That, folks, is my point.

None of your posts talk about the people she offended. Perhaps it would be helpful to begin showing empathy and compassion for those people first. Multiple posts, same topic, nothing.

And, this is not a one off, it is plural instances. Thus far in follow ups, she has shown little sign of understanding and remorse. It's quite ok to forgive the sinner. But sport participation is earned. Once she shows signs of earning it, I am fine with her continuing her lax career somewhere down the road.

[Pakuni]

I'm afraid ya'll don't get it.

This is not about condoning racism or a racist uttering. Not in the least.

It's about how a follower of Jesus' teachings, which is what Marquette purports to be, handles sinfulness and anger. Jesus taught us not to turn our back on sinfulness but to seek redemption through forgiveness.

Does it matter at all that this young woman has expressed no desire for forgiveness or redemption? Or even any recognition that her words were wrong and harmful?

Regardless, it's not Marquette's place to offer forgiveness. Marquette is not who she sinned against.
It is Marquette's place to offer all students a safe and welcoming environment. And the leadership has reasonably decided that someone who's openly espoused racist viewpoints on multiple occasions would be detrimental to a safe and welcoming environment.

[vogue65]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then it is a duck.
From old Uncle Vogue.