MU Lacrosse Recruit loses scholly over racist Instagram post.

[Billy Hoyle]

So that's latinx, Pacific Islander, middle eastern, East Asian, African/African American, Native American. I would like to see the breakout of that on the dashboard.

These designations are voluntarily reported. Mixed race individuals may fall under 2 or more or they may report under a specific ethnicity, depending on what they choose to report. In reports I've done we had mixed race siblings who reported differently. You also have students who report themselves as Hispanic and also white.

And what is "Latinax?"

[shoothoops]

Depaul is another that is about 50% White.

Yep. yes it is.

[JuniorCardigan]

These designations are voluntarily reported. Mixed race individuals may fall under 2 or more or they may report under a specific ethnicity, depending on what they choose to report. In reports I've done we had mixed race siblings who reported differently. You also have students who report themselves as Hispanic and also white.

And what is "Latinax?"

"Latinx" is just a gender-neutral way of saying of "Latino" or "Latina"

[Galway Eagle]

These designations are voluntarily reported. Mixed race individuals may fall under 2 or more or they may report under a specific ethnicity, depending on what they choose to report. In reports I've done we had mixed race siblings who reported differently. You also have students who report themselves as Hispanic and also white.

And what is "Latinax?"

My understanding is it's everybody from the central and South American countries as opposed to Hispanic which includes Spain or Latino which is just boys or Latina which is just girls

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And what is "Latinax?"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Latinx

Latinx adjective
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La·​tinx | \ primarily a written form ; often read as lə-ˈtē-ˌneks \
Definition of Latinx
: of, relating to, or marked by Latin American heritage —used as a gender-neutral alternative to Latino or Latina

[cheebs09]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Latinx

I don't know that I had ever seen that term until Lovell's recent tweets. Thanks for the explanation.

[Billy Hoyle]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Latinx

as liberal as I am there are areas where my eyes roll at "wokeness" and this is one of them (that and announcing one's pronouns). My wife has always referred to herself as "Filipina" and a fellow Fil-Am friend of hers (someone who is way, way too "woke") chastised her for not referring to herself as "Filipinax" and she didn't know what that was supposed to mean or why she was supposed to do that now.

[The Sultan]

I mean, it's just a gender-neutral term.  I don't think you have to be terribly "woke" to use it. 

[Galway Eagle]

as liberal as I am there are areas where my eyes roll at "wokeness" and this is one of them (that and announcing one's pronouns). My wife has always referred to herself as "Filipina" and a fellow Fil-Am friend of hers (someone who is way, way too "woke") chastised her for not referring to herself as "Filipinax" and she didn't know what that was supposed to mean or why she was supposed to do that now.

That friend seems ridiculous. On a survey about ethnicity I get writing the gender neutral version.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Do you pronounce it Latin-X or lati-nex?

[buckchuckler]

I mean, it's just a gender-neutral term.  I don't think you have to be terribly "woke" to use it.

I asked before, but people may have missed it, is just Latin not an appropriate term?

[The Sultan]

I asked before, but people may have missed it, is just Latin not an appropriate term?

Latin usually refers to someone who is native to Latin America.  Lantinx refers to people of Latin American heritage.

[Galway Eagle]

I asked before, but people may have missed it, is just Latin not an appropriate term?

That's already an ancient ethnicity in modern Italy. Maybe they wanted It separate.

Latin usually refers to someone who is native to Latin America.  Lantinx refers to people of Latin American heritage.

Or this, seems more likely.

[Eldon]

Latin usually refers to someone who is native to Latin America.  Lantinx refers to people of Latin American heritage.

I don't think this is correct.

'Latin' likely isn't used because it can refer to the Latin peoples of Europe, e.g., Italy, Southern France, etc., i.e., people whose language comes directly from Latin.

[drewm88]

as liberal as I am there are areas where my eyes roll at "wokeness" and this is one of them (that and announcing one's pronouns).

I applaud you for publicly identifying an area where you can grow.

[dgies9156]

Maybe.  I don't think being racist is either a checkbox of yes and no, but there are various degrees depending on your experience and your worldview.  She's 18.  Her worldview is undoubtedly primarily shaped by her parents and her upbringing.  As she goes off to college, enters the workforce, etc., her worldview may change as she gains relationships, intelligence and wisdom.

I'm 52.  My thoughts on topics like gender identity, gay marriage, etc. have evolved quite a bit over the last 30 years.  Just because she has racist thoughts (and posts about them) now doesn't mean that will be how she thinks in 5, 10 or 30 years from now.

Perhaps I'm about to get shot for this, but I'm not sure I agree with what the university did.

It's a two faceted argument. Yes, her comments were inappropriate, insulting and perceived to be racist. She was wrong for uttering them. As others have pointed out, putting comments like those the young woman made on social media is doubly absurd because they last forever.

Who among has not been offensive to others? Who among us has not uttered comments for which we will be held accountable at our final judgment (if not sooner)?

But part of going to college is learning and growing up. Part of what makes Marquette special is the ability to care for the person. Forgiveness is a virtue both our faith and our university advocate. In that vein, if the young woman recognizes she acted inappropriately, should we not be setting an example of forgiveness? That's the Jesuit way and last time I checked, Marquette is a Jesuit university.

Over the years, we've had people attend Marquette whose attitudes was truly un-Catholic and un-Christian. Yet as a community of diversity, we lead and we learn. By that, we grow and we discover right from wrong. Our exposure to people of different backgrounds, beliefs and cultures enlightens us. We have reinforced the concepts of consideration and inclusiveness.

Wherever the young woman ends up, I hope she learns and I trust her mistaken, offensive comments are a youthful indiscretion never to be repeated.

[The Sultan]

I get it, but an athletic scholarship is also a privledge.  And the standard for earning and maintaining it should be high. 

[Jockey]

Wherever the young woman ends up, I hope she learns and I trust her mistaken, offensive comments are a youthful indiscretion never to be repeated.

Why would you think this? I hop you are correct and the comment was not reflective of who she is. But people that make racist comments overwhelmingly tend to be racist people.

[tower912]

It was dumb to post.   Yes, I consider it racist.   But I also acknowledge that there is the possibility of truth in what dgies said.   Nearly all of us did something really dumb when we were in that age bracket.   (Mine was voting for Reagan  ).   And nobody wants to be known for the worst mistakes they made at 18.    I hope this turns out to be a growth opportunity for the young athlete involved.

[Galway Eagle]

Dgles they had every right to rescind the scholarship Kids have lost scholarships over a heck of a lot less. Now Regarding her enrollment You make some valid criticisms. I certainly am not happy she was doxed for the reasons you point out. Going to a catholic school is also a privilege, If MU feels that their mission is to educate and grow an individual then they should not have denied admission if they feel that those admitted should already have certain morals then I can understand denying admission

[MU82]

I love your tone, dgies, but I'll stick up for our alma mater here.

If she is intelligent and resourceful and hard-working, she can still have a great life.

That will be doubly so if she has a supportive family and if she is willing to evolve (to borrow a word others have used) into a well-rounded, open-minded person.

I don't blame MU at all for taking the stance it did. Actions have consequences, and every institution has to have red lines that can't be crossed. But I also believe in second chances, and I'm pretty sure she'll get one from some school somewhere.

Here's hoping she makes the most of it.

[warriorchick]

Dgles they had every right to rescind the scholarship Kids have lost scholarships over a heck of a lot less. Now Regarding her enrollment You make some valid criticisms. I certainly am not happy she was doxed for the reasons you point out. Going to a catholic school is also a privilege, If MU feels that their mission is to educate and grow an individual then they should not have denied admission if they feel that those admitted should already have certain morals then I can understand denying admission

There is also the practical reason of it being a PR nightmare to let her show up on campus in the Fall.  And would she have had any teammates of color?  How is that going to affect team cohesiveness?  What about her African American floormates and classmates?

Rescinding her acceptance and scholarship offer was the only real option MU had.  Having said that, if they tell her that they will give her an opportunity in the next year to demonstrate her remorse and change of heart and take another look at her for 21-22, I could support that.

[Jockey]

There is also the practical reason of it being a PR nightmare to let her show up on campus in the Fall.  And would she have had any teammates of color?  How is that going to affect team cohesiveness?  What about her African American floormates and classmates?

Rescinding her acceptance and scholarship offer was the only real option MU had.  Having said that, if they tell her that they will give her an opportunity in the next year to demonstrate her remorse and change of heart and take another look at her for 21-22, I could support that.

Well said. I could get behind your proposal.

[WarriorDad]

Josh Hader's comments were 7 years old when they came up.

So you're going to go on record to say that anyone in this country that lives in an urban area or attends an urban college is without a doubt not racist? Yeah, I'm not buying that.

Isn't that because people didn't search comments like they do today?  That was the reason for the delay.

No, I would not go on record to make that comment.  There are people of all walks of life in every part of this country.  However, i tend to doubt if she was racist she would go to MU because of the surrounding area.  For the same reason I  have very liberal friends who will not step foot in Texas and co set stove friends who won't watch movies with specific actors in them.  She said some dumb things and is paying a heavy price.  I expected maybe a little more compassion and guidance from Marquette.  A chance to really set her straight while also causing the pain of punishment she deserved.  Their call, I am fine with it either way.

[shoothoops]

Isn't that because people didn't search comments like they do today?  That was the reason for the delay.

No, I would not go on record to make that comment.  There are people of all walks of life in every part of this country.  However, i tend to doubt if she was racist she would go to MU because of the surrounding area.  For the same reason I  have very liberal friends who will not step foot in Texas and co set stove friends who won't watch movies with specific actors in them.  She said some dumb things and is paying a heavy price.  I expected maybe a little more compassion and guidance from Marquette.  A chance to really set her straight while also causing the pain of punishment she deserved.  Their call, I am fine with it either way.

Your post incorrectly implies that there aren't any racists at Marquette. Every single poster here knew someone or some people, or perhaps several people that were racists at MU. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. Some just hide it better. I'm not even going to take the time to explain the varied specifics of Texas. Clearly you haven't spent much or any time there.