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Jockey

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 29, 2020, 04:40:26 PM
the "mental health" thing is BS and pure gaslighting. Biden has a stutter, he always has, that's what causes him to lose his place talking. He does not have declining mental health. Now, the current President, is it mental decline or his documented Adderall addiction?

I'm not a fan of Amy K. She doesn't do much for me and her failures as a prosecutor in MSP pretty much disqualify her after this week.

One more clue about Warrior Dad. He watches Fox News and repeats their lies. I guess that's what most send for life do.

bananahammock

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 29, 2020, 08:29:09 PM
I'm as anti orange fat guys as anyone but isn't this a bit of "what about ism"?

For the record I do agree the difference is equity Obama built up with race relations vs Trump having zero equity in that department so the same statement has very different connotation. But the individuals you quoted won't think of it that way.
Nah...not taking a side. Just answered the question.

4everwarriors

It appears some of y'all would be a lot happier if you would just fookin' move to Australia, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni

Top flite chutzpah here.

@Mike_Pence: We believe in law and order in this Country. We condemn violence against property or persons. We will always stand for the right of Americans to peacefully protest and let their voices be heard.

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: Jockey on May 29, 2020, 08:39:14 PM
One more clue about Warrior Dad. He watches Fox News and repeats their lies. I guess that's what most send for life do.
OMG. How dare he.  ::)
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

4everwarriors


@Mike_Pence: We believe in law and order in this Country. We condemn violence against property or persons. We will always stand for the right of Americans to peacefully protest and let their voices be heard.




Truth bro, hey?



"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on May 29, 2020, 09:13:47 PM
OMG. How dare he.  ::)

Just seems...interesting...for a guy who has never voted for anything but democrats in his entire life.

Mr. Nielsen

If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 29, 2020, 09:13:55 PM
@Mike_Pence: We believe in law and order in this Country. We condemn violence against property or persons. We will always stand for the right of Americans to peacefully protest and let their voices be heard.




Truth bro, hey?

False bro, aina.
The guy stands for peaceful protest so much that he made a show of storming out of a football game because of a peaceful protest. Then he urged the NFL to ban peaceful protests.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on May 29, 2020, 09:17:42 PM
Maybe he is seeing the light.

That light you see, that's a train coming full speed at you, and it's not slowing down.

Mr. Nielsen

If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 29, 2020, 09:13:55 PM
@Mike_Pence: We believe in law and order in this Country. We condemn violence against property or persons. We will always stand for the right of Americans to peacefully protest and let their voices be heard.




Truth bro, hey?

If we condemn violence against persons why has only 1 of 4 cops been arrested? The Vice President of our country is speaking up against rioters while ignoring the black man that was murdered.

Hooray for America, where we speak up only if the rich white male is inconvenienced, hey? #MAGA

GooooMarquette

More rioting tonight (in violation of the curfew), and again the police are nowhere to be found.

Crazy.

vogue65

If I need a weapon to defend myself in my home then I would also need a few other things.

I would need sand bags, lots of sand bags, concertina wire, a few dozen claymores, batteries, wire, some flares, smoke, gas masks, night vision stuff, fire extinguishers, a radio, and a few junk yard dogs for openers.  At the end, I'd probably be dead.

These guys with gun safes in the basement are nuts.  Oh, I have lots of been nowhere done nothing neighbors ready to protect their families.  What a joke.

vogue65

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 29, 2020, 09:45:08 PM
More rioting tonight (in violation of the curfew), and again the police are nowhere to be found.

Crazy.

You have to know when to hold'em and when to fold'em.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: vogue65 on May 29, 2020, 09:54:10 PM
You have to know when to hold'em and when to fold'em.

The city has been on fire for two nights. When exactly will it be time to hold 'em?

jesmu84

Quote from: Pakuni on May 29, 2020, 09:22:38 PM
False bro, aina.
The guy stands for peaceful protest so much that he made a show of storming out of a football game because of a peaceful protest. Then he urged the NFL to ban peaceful protests.

Lol

vogue65

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 29, 2020, 10:02:36 PM
The city has been on fire for two nights. When exactly will it be time to hold 'em?

Good question.

This isn't Newark in the 60's.
Can't believe the MPD lost a police station.
The attacker's apparently know what they are doing.
They have communication and perhaps leadership, they have numbers and perhaps armaments which have not been deployed.
We know only half the story, if that.

Like all wars it will end when it ends. 





HutchwasClutch

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 29, 2020, 09:45:08 PM
More rioting tonight (in violation of the curfew), and again the police are nowhere to be found.

Crazy.

The so called leaders of that state and city have disgraced themselves. Shockingly, the curfew is being ignored. No one saw that coming. 🤔

GooooMarquette

Quote from: vogue65 on May 29, 2020, 10:17:06 PM
Good question.

This isn't Newark in the 60's.
Can't believe the MPD lost a police station.
The attacker's apparently know what they are doing.
They have communication and perhaps leadership, they have numbers and perhaps armaments which have not been deployed.
We know only half the story, if that.

Like all wars it will end when it ends.


I am not in law enforcement, so I don't know the answer either...but on-air analysts (chiefs or former chiefs from other cities) say they have never seen the kind of large-scale retreat we have seen in MPLS.

Elonsmusk

Have to really question the leadership of Minneapolis and the State of Minnesota.  Talk about mishandling a crisis and taking action too late.  We've seen what's happened in other recent officer involved killings of black men.  Yet in the case of George Floyd, it was the most egregious, heinous, non-defensible policing we've seen - why would the state have not anticipated riots/looting weren't imminent?  Took 4 days to activate the National Guard?


Pakuni


vogue65

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 29, 2020, 10:28:09 PM

I am not in law enforcement, so I don't know the answer either...but on-air analysts (chiefs or former chiefs from other cities) say they have never seen the kind of large-scale retreat we have seen in MPLS.

You have two choices, retreat or attack.  Take your pick.

The tactics employed by police for crowd control don't work anymore.  That's why the World Economic Forums are held in out of the way places and are planned for a year in advance. 

Read, Among Thugs, good read, funny, it's about the soccer hooligans in the '80's.
It was a game of rioting in Europe.  However, old news.

Unless the police go to violence, live fire, there is really little they can do.   Too many people, too many cell phones, too many streets.  And there are lots of guns in the possession of the rioters.   I saw Molotov cocktails, fireworks, battering rams, some serious offense.   In NYC they use divide and conquer, that does not work here.

Next move may be water cannons, and tanks, but that does not look good on international t.v..

This country is a tinderbox, the solution is to change the criminal justice system, the training of police, and the patrol manuals. 








GooooMarquette

Quote from: vogue65 on May 29, 2020, 11:00:10 PM

You have two choices, retreat or attack.  Take your pick.



Third option. In both Dallas and Los Angeles tonight, lines of police officers got between large groups of people and divided them into smaller groups. It worked quite well actually.

In Minneapolis they have the entire police department plus the National Guard and all they do is run and hide. What was the point of calling out the National Guard if they weren't going to use them?

Jockey

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on May 29, 2020, 09:13:47 PM
OMG. How dare he.  ::)

I don't care if he or you or anybody watches Fox. I was mocking his lame attempt to pretend he's not Chico.

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