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Quote from: BCHoopster on April 20, 2020, 03:25:51 PM
Would it be so bad he left?  Give Oso and Cain more playing time, and then you could play Garcia at the 3 with Lewis at the 4.

It takes away one guy who can get hot from three. But his production is not difficult to replace.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: muguru on April 20, 2020, 04:05:28 PM
I mean, I don't necessarily see this happening, but it wouldn't totally shock me either if a GM took him with a 2nd round pick as a favor to his dad. Wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened.

Not sure what good that really does Brendan, tho.
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BrewCity83

Brendan *COULD* be our best guy this season.  If he figures out a way to play at the highest level he's shown, on a consistent basis, he can be really good.  Now I don't think it's fair to expect that, but I do see him as a player with a really high ceiling.
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: muguru on April 20, 2020, 04:05:28 PM
I mean, I don't necessarily see this happening, but it wouldn't totally shock me either if a GM took him with a 2nd round pick as a favor to his dad. Wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened.
I know you don't see it happening but it would shock me. The NBA is not MLB with 30-40 round draft. Invited to a camp, sure, use a draft pick, no way.

I fully expect him to be back but the idea of him leaving is not horrible. He seems like a really good guy just like all of Wojo's players, so I hope for the best for him. 

BCHoopster

Average shooter, average quickness, barely can create his own shot, not strong enough around the hoop, but plays pretty good D, will have experience and 2 years left!  Can
Improve

Dawson Rental

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 20, 2020, 03:25:51 PM
Would it be so bad he left?  Give Oso and Cain more playing time, and then you could play Garcia at the 3 with Lewis at the 4.

If Garcia and Lewis start at the forward spots, Lewis would be the three and Garcia the four.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

OffTheGlass

I can't see Bailey not coming back; however, his dad certainly is providing some good direction as to why his son is throwing his name out there. We need Bailey back. He's experienced and can do a lot of things for us, but there is no doubt he needs a confidence booster. If he can take that energy and effort and apply that to his offensive game from a mental standpoint, he definitely can be a difference maker over the next two years.

He's not ever going to be our top player but everyone needs a guy like Bailey who can help do the little things that matter, which we all witnessed he is capable of doing, but just not consistently.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: BCHoopster on April 20, 2020, 04:44:04 PM
Average shooter, average quickness, barely can create his own shot, not strong enough around the hoop, but plays pretty good D, will have experience and 2 years left!  Can
Improve

MU's best returning rebounder.  His quickness would look better but Wojo likes to put him on smaller players who are hot due to his propensity to get blocks.
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Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: OffTheGlass on April 20, 2020, 05:01:15 PM
He's not ever going to be our top player but everyone needs a guy like Bailey who can help do the little things that matter, which we all witnessed he is capable of doing, but just not consistently.
Well there's a draft profile.

JakeBarnes

The density of people who think he is actually trying to get drafted this year is...exhausting.

If you had the chance to get better and learn from. the best about where your flaws are, wouldn't you do it? I sure as hell would.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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Quote from: OffTheGlass on April 20, 2020, 05:01:15 PM

He's not ever going to be our top player but everyone needs a guy like Bailey who can help do the little things that matter, which we all witnessed he is capable of doing, but just not consistently.

So not exactly a Marquette "all timer", a'ina?

avid1010

If so many are stating he is smart for getting this feedback...are the hundreds of other kids with similar talent who don't go this route dumb? 

It seems smart to me...but I have to question why more don't do the same. 

Hope to see him back next year...great kid, seems like a hard worker, and had some real highs this year. 

ChuckyChip

In the current restricted environment, how would Bailey even be evaluated?  I assume before June there is not going to be some sort of combine or camp, so does that mean NBA scouts would have to travel to Milwaukee to evaluate him in person?  Would they waste that time on a "fringe" prospect?  What exactly does declaring for the draft allow Bailey to do in regards to being evaluated?  Seems like a scout or two could watch some game film and advise him based on that.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: ChuckyChip on April 20, 2020, 07:52:12 PM
In the current restricted environment, how would Bailey even be evaluated?  I assume before June there is not going to be some sort of combine or camp, so does that mean NBA scouts would have to travel to Milwaukee to evaluate him in person?  Would they waste that time on a "fringe" prospect?  What exactly does declaring for the draft allow Bailey to do in regards to being evaluated?  Seems like a scout or two could watch some game film and advise him based on that.

.....and that is what they will be doing....
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Stretchdeltsig

Quote from: 4everDawson on April 20, 2020, 04:51:11 PM
If Garcia and Lewis start at the forward spots, Lewis would be the three and Garcia the four.
Bailey can see the handwriting on the wall.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

WarriorPride68

FWIW, MU would drop from 59 to 70 without Bailey

WhiteTrash

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 20, 2020, 08:59:27 PM
FWIW, MU would drop from 59 to 70 without Bailey
Don't know if I'd believe that. But I really don't think we're an NCAA team either way.

BCHoopster

If Carton gets approval to play next year, MU will be at least on the bubble

MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 20, 2020, 08:59:27 PM
FWIW, MU would drop from 59 to 70 without Bailey
LOL....no they won't!

He is not that much of a difference maker 

MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: avid1010 on April 20, 2020, 07:25:33 PM
If so many are stating he is smart for getting this feedback...are the hundreds of other kids with similar talent who don't go this route dumb? 

It seems smart to me...but I have to question why more don't do the same. 

Hope to see him back next year...great kid, seems like a hard worker, and had some real highs this year. 
I think it is a head game ploy to prevent Wojo from thinking that Lewis should beat him out or slot in front of him or that he is not the best returning player.

BY DECLARING HIMSELF ELIGIBLE FOR THE NBA, BAILEY IS INDIRECTLY STATING THAT HE IS THE BEST PLAYER IN HIS EYES, SO THAT IS HOW HE IS TREATED AND LOOKED AT AS SUCH, EVEN IF THERE IS OR IS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

So now, Wojo has no choice but to start him because after all, you can't slight a guy who declared for the NBA draft can you? It put the pressure and onus on Wojo and backs him into a corner. It's a status play to put himself over Garcia, Lewis or Carton. I see what's going on here. He's establishing his pecking order.

Actually think Jamal Cain is better. . . but that I neither here nor there.   

AZMarqfan

Love BB's size, athleticism, defense, and improving 3-pt shot.  He's someone that should make a huge leap next year, although I think he would greatly benefit from a system in which one person isn't the focal point nearly every time down the floor.  Carlino, Ellensen, Howard, etc.  the Rowsey, Howard, Hauser 3-headed monster was sort of an exception. 

I hope he returns and his confidence grows. 

MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 20, 2020, 01:25:36 PM

He started for the Warriors most of last year.

Agree very good point and just to further clarify. He Started All 30 Games For the Warriors and was one of two Warriors to do so. Brendan also finished 14th in the Big East in rebounding at 5.7 rebounds per game.

brewcity77

Lots of Bailey disparagement in here. Seriously? While he was inconsistent, he is our best returning player. Cain, Theo, and Elliott have had their moments, but none are any more consistent than Bailey. He's our returning leader in offensive efficiency and tallied more rebounds and points than any of those guys. He would be a big loss to a team that lost a lot.

The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 21, 2020, 05:03:19 AM
Lots of Bailey disparagement in here. Seriously? While he was inconsistent, he is our best returning player. Cain, Theo, and Elliott have had their moments, but none are any more consistent than Bailey. He's our returning leader in offensive efficiency and tallied more rebounds and points than any of those guys. He would be a big loss to a team that lost a lot.


Yep. If you look at his stats, he was better than the likes of Jamil after his sophomore year. No idea why people are so down on him.
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