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withoutbias

Quote from: Elonsmusk on April 16, 2020, 09:56:19 AM
Well - It's a GREAT thing we have you here  Without Bias (I mean Wadesworld), to keep us all up to speed on interpreting body language and social media needs of 17 year old boys.  Please keep us up to date on your hot takes as it relates to Mane, and others this transfer season.

Signing Carton was HUGE to fill the HUGE hole on our roster going into Year 7.  As has been said many times, we are going to need Top 30/5-star talent at MU for us to win under Wojo.

Wait, keef=Ners?

Holy sh!t it all makes sense.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 15, 2020, 08:08:20 PM
Looked back at his recruitment.  Camped with Marquette and UW-Madison.  Wojo did an in-home in Spring of '18 and DJ took an unofficial for March Madness.  Thought he'd end up at Michigan and Ohio swooped in late.  Makes me realize that recruiting is a tough, strange and frustrating thing but not to burn bridges because you never know when you'll cross them again

A lesson that Grimes learned too late.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Elonsmusk on April 15, 2020, 08:25:37 PM
Way to go Wojo!  Great news.  Now, comes the coaching part.  What are the chances he gets eligibility waiver (if there is a season this year)?

In case he doesn't, Wojo is already drafting a letter of resignation to the Collage Basketball Coaches Assoc.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: KampusFoods on April 16, 2020, 08:47:03 AM
Honest question: why do people feel strongly that he will get a waiver? I don't have a great understanding of the eligibility / waiver process. Are there precedents for this same situation?

If Mustapha Herron (SJU), as an example, got a waiver (he did) - no way the NCAA is going to deny Carton one, IMO. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

wadesworld

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 16, 2020, 12:44:50 PM
If Mustapha Herron (SJU), as an example, got a waiver (he did) - no way the NCAA is going to deny Carton one, IMO.

You're talking about the NCAA here...

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: wadesworld on April 16, 2020, 12:53:37 PM
You're talking about the NCAA here...

Right.  There is always chance and I have admitted as much many times.  But....Carton has as good of chance as anyone to get a waiver, and I'd wager that the NCAA is going to be handing out a lot of immediate eligibility waivers in the coming months. 

But yes, there is always a chance the NCAA denies it.  Which would suck.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: Afroman on April 16, 2020, 10:03:30 AM
I wonder what kind of role Markus had in the Carton commitment? I have to imagine there was a conversation or two. And, given Markus' respect for Wojo, I'm sure that played a part. If he did contribute to the commitment, that's quite a farewell gift that he gave MU fans.

Plus Tax, I believe he did.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Elonsmusk on April 15, 2020, 09:51:31 PM
Dramatic much?  Drama Queen:  Synonyms:  MU82, MU82, MU82.

For a journalist of your caliber and your quest for the truth and facts at all times, not sure how you get that I'm "so filled with hate," because Carton elevates us to a bubble team?  That's great, considering how things were looking.

Go hadve a beer, get some, and calm down.

At least sweeten the offer by offering some frozen yogurt.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 15, 2020, 10:12:28 PM
Wow. If immediately eligible, this class is surely at least top 10. If we add Mane, it becomes Marquette's version of the Fab 5.

Either way, major props to Wojo. I was interested but concerned  about the the upcoming season. Now I'm interested and excited. Karim Mane, c'mon down!

Mane WANTS to play PG - this can't help with that. Maybe Wojo can do a North Carolina and convince Mane he's running a 2 PG offense.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

brewcity77

Quote from: 4everDawson on April 16, 2020, 01:39:43 PM
Mane WANTS to play PG - this can't help with that. Maybe Wojo can do a North Carolina and convince Mane he's running a 2 PG offense.

Hard disagree. I fully expect this to help with the recruitment of Mane. If an existent highly regarded point guard was a problem, he wouldn't be looking at Michigan State with Rocket Watts and A.J. Hoggard already there.

CountryRoads

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2020, 01:49:38 PM
Hard disagree. I fully expect this to help with the recruitment of Mane. If an existent highly regarded point guard was a problem, he wouldn't be looking at Michigan State with Rocket Watts and A.J. Hoggard already there.

Or the NBA...

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: 4everDawson on April 16, 2020, 01:39:43 PM
Mane WANTS to play PG - this can't help with that. Maybe Wojo can do a North Carolina and convince Mane he's running a 2 PG offense.

Has this been published somewhere. I have heard Mane can play the point but I don't remember anything about it being a priority
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Quote from: 4everDawson on April 16, 2020, 01:35:27 PM
At least sweeten the offer by offering some frozen yogurt.
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Johnny B

Sorry if this was asked but when is the ncca going to vote on the transfer and sit out a year deal?

wadesworld

Quote from: muguru on April 16, 2020, 06:19:59 PM
https://gomarquette.com/news/2020/4/16/mens-basketball-marquette-adds-transfer-guard-d-j-carton.aspx

Quote"I chose Marquette because of the relationship I have been able to develop with Coach Wojo," Carton said.  "I think he understands me and can bring the best out of me, on and off the court.  I am excited to be a Golden Eagle and play for the city of Milwaukee."

That goes against absolutely everything I've heard about Wojo.

dad's couch

Here's why I think Mane is still a possibility. For one. His parents value an education so I think he goes to college over the NBA or G League (and it may be they don't want him yet). Secondly. Ohio State hit a skid losing 6 of 7 games and Carton was struggling having 7 TOs in a game vs Indiana. Holtmann moved him off the ball and in a couple of weeks he responded really well and had some of his best games. So if I'm Wojo pitching to both. I will tell Carton we plan to play you off the ball a lot and let you gradually come back to the point putting you in a position to be the most successful. And it takes some of the pressure off you and you can go out and play. Then tell Mane the plan for for Carton and say the point is yours. I can see it being agreeable to both. And it is safe to assume Carton will get a waiver but it is the NCAA and no one knows.

dad's couch

#167
Quote from: Johnny B on April 16, 2020, 06:25:55 PM
Sorry if this was asked but when is the ncca going to vote on the transfer and sit out a year deal?

May 20

MU82

Quote from: dad's couch on April 16, 2020, 06:35:02 PM
Here's why I think Mane is still a possibility. For one. His parents value an education so I think he goes to college over the NBA or G League (and it may be they don't want him yet). Secondly. Ohio State hit a skid losing 6 of 7 games and Carton was struggling having 7 TOs in a game vs Indiana. Holtmann moved him off the ball and in a couple of weeks he responded really well and had some of his best games. So if I'm Wojo pitching to both. I will tell Carton we plan to play you off the ball a lot and let you gradually come back to the point putting you in a position to be the most successful. And it takes some of the pressure off you and you can go out and play. Then tell Mane the plan for for Carton and say the point is yours. I can see it being agreeable to both. And it is safe to assume Carton will get a waiver but it is the NCAA and no one knows.

You say, "We will love having both of you on the team because you both are so gifted with the ball, and both have such well-rounded games. You can play off of each other perfectly. With you two, and our talented forwards, we will win a lot of games. Join us!"

No need to promise primary ballhandling duties to either of them.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: dad's couch on April 16, 2020, 06:35:02 PM
Here's why I think Mane is still a possibility. For one. His parents value an education so I think he goes to college over the NBA or G League (and it may be they don't want him yet). Secondly. Ohio State hit a skid losing 6 of 7 games and Carton was struggling having 7 TOs in a game vs Indiana. Holtmann moved him off the ball and in a couple of weeks he responded really well and had some of his best games. So if I'm Wojo pitching to both. I will tell Carton we plan to play you off the ball a lot and let you gradually come back to the point putting you in a position to be the most successful. And it takes some of the pressure off you and you can go out and play. Then tell Mane the plan for for Carton and say the point is yours. I can see it being agreeable to both. And it is safe to assume Carton will get a waiver but it is the NCAA and no one knows.
Carton commitment will have no adverse consequence with regards to Mane's recruiting.
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bilsu

Quote from: MU82 on April 16, 2020, 06:46:09 PM
You say, "We will love having both of you on the team because you both are so gifted with the ball, and both have such well-rounded games. You can play off of each other perfectly. With you two, and our talented forwards, we will win a lot of games. Join us!"

No need to promise primary ballhandling duties to either of them.
Wojo said when he got here he wanted all of his guards to be able to initiate the offense.

Dawson Rental

#171
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 16, 2020, 02:04:35 PM
Has this been published somewhere. I have heard Mane can play the point but I don't remember anything about it being a priority

Sorry, I don't have this interview dog-eared somehow. I do remember the impression it made on me because it was the first I realized that he saw himself as the guy bringing the ball up and initiating the offense, and how that and playing fast mattered to him. It was a while ago before Michigan State got to be a strong possibility to the best of my recollection.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

#172
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2020, 01:49:38 PM
Hard disagree. I fully expect this to help with the recruitment of Mane. If an existent highly regarded point guard was a problem, he wouldn't be looking at Michigan State with Rocket Watts and A.J. Hoggard already there.

I really don't see a guy thinking the NBA might be possible this year worrying about either of those guys who are admittedly in one case a solid collage player and in the other case a very good recruit. Mane is a ball dominant guard. It makes sense that he's looking hard at programs that just lost a Howard and a Winston. And was looking earlier at Maryland which is losing a PG who was one of his team's 2 best players and senior leader.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

bradforster

Carton spoke about his move to Marquette.  I'm sorry if this has already been posted.  It was nice to see his comments about what factored into his decision to join the MU program.

https://sports.yahoo.com/guard-d-j-carton-transferring-ohio-state-marquette-234106920--ncaab.html

''I chose Marquette because of the relationship I have been able to develop with Coach Wojo,'' Carton said in the release. ''I think he understands me and can bring the best out of me, on and off the court.''

NickelDimer

#174
Quote from: wadesworld on April 16, 2020, 06:32:18 PM
That goes against absolutely everything I've heard about Wojo.
Everything? Including that he's not a very good game coach? That seems to be most people's main gripe with Wojo.
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