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pbiflyer

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 07:39:21 PM


Ya gotta 'cuse Full Diaper 'cuz, you know, he's got stutterin' issues, aina?

At least he can speak and write English. Unlike certain morons........

Frenns Liquor Depot

At this point I am hopeful that the actions of independent companies, universities, health care settings and the push by govt yesterday will give people who have developed an entrenched position against the vaccine the air cover to go get it.  I bet that there are people now that are more willing but peer pressure is having a negative impact and causing illogical entrenched positions.  They have a choice of course....but the consequences of their choice are becoming more negative.

Also this is the form of illogical choice that is harmful to others -- it fills our hospitals, furthers the pandemic and impacts the freedom of those who stepped up and got the vaccine.  We have a right to a safe workplace and many of us don't want to be around unvaccinated people that have a higher likelihood of spreading a disease that is very common and prevalent in the US and the world.

The Sultan

Quote from: forgetful on September 09, 2021, 11:04:07 PM
I don't see the argument that this is unconstitutional. Vaccine mandates by the federal government date back to George Washington. And in this case it is a rule regulated by OSHA for worker health and safety. Not sure how one can say that isn't within the scope of their authority.

One could argue that the new rule has to go through the normal process, but Trump repeatedly violated those pathways under the guise of "emergency powers," and they held, so seems like that card was already played.


Even if it is eventually deemed unconstitutional, it most certainly give legal cover to a bunch of businesses that are concerned about the legality of vaccine mandates.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

 46 got a staff that mirrors his intellect.  he just highlighted the real reason for putting OSHA as the enforcer.  DOH!!

  the ultimate "reach around" for the mandate  more fodder for the courts to shoot this down as they already know it.  they are just waiting for the inevitable to once again try to politicize the courts, in their favor or not.  just another broken promise

Klain retweeted MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle, who posted, "OSHA doing this vaxx mandate as an emergency workplace safety rule is the ultimate work-around for the Federal govt to require vaccinations."
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The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on September 10, 2021, 08:12:58 AM
Klain retweeted MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle, who posted, "OSHA doing this vaxx mandate as an emergency workplace safety rule is the ultimate work-around for the Federal govt to require vaccinations."

Great!  Hope it works.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

My company released a policy similar to this about a week ago. Im going to guess there was some advisement that the overall mandate was coming.

How does this impact remote workers? Is the vaccine or testing strictly for on-site or all employees?

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 10, 2021, 07:46:39 AM
Jockey calling someone out for being classless...



You literally said that you don't care if people die.

Actually, that is not what I said, Chico.

4everwarriors

Quote from: pbiflyer on September 10, 2021, 07:51:22 AM
At least he can speak and write English. Unlike certain morons........




Amazin' how effective Aricept is, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on September 10, 2021, 08:48:11 AM
Actually, that is not what I said, Chico.


Really?

Quote from: Jockey on July 05, 2021, 11:34:55 AM
I think saying that we don't care if the unvaccinated live or die is a statement that would be supported by many.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

pacearrow02

https://mobile.twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1436320331510263828

Scotty G 2024 has my vote!! Perfect analysis, this "mandate" will have little to no affect on current delta surge.  By the time it's ready to be enforced his best estimate was fall of 2022 and at current new daily vaccination rate we should be 85-90% vaccinated at that point (adults at least). 



jficke13

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on September 10, 2021, 09:15:53 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1436320331510263828

Scotty G 2024 has my vote!! Perfect analysis, this "mandate" will have little to no affect on current delta surge.  By the time it's ready to be enforced his best estimate was fall of 2022 and at current new daily vaccination rate we should be 85-90% vaccinated at that point (adults at least).

With any luck it will cluster antivaxxers into public protests where they will be vulnerable to vaccine-administration-by-dart-gun, which ought to be phase 2 of the plan.

pacearrow02

Quote from: jficke13 on September 10, 2021, 09:17:46 AM
With any luck it will cluster antivaxxers into public protests where they will be vulnerable to vaccine-administration-by-dart-gun, which ought to be phase 2 of the plan.

Haha, move straight out of Ace Ventura!

jficke13

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on September 10, 2021, 09:21:48 AM
Haha, move straight out of Ace Ventura!

I was picturing a scene from a movie that did not suck, namely Old School.

pacearrow02

Quote from: jficke13 on September 10, 2021, 09:39:15 AM
I was picturing a scene from a movie that did not suck, namely Old School.

Fighting words!!  While old school is undoubtedly better....Ace Ventura did not suck, that's a hill I'll die on!

cheebs09

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on September 10, 2021, 10:01:24 AM
Fighting words!!  While old school is undoubtedly better....Ace Ventura did not suck, that's a hill I'll die on!

I agree with this analysis.

JWags85

Quote from: jficke13 on September 10, 2021, 09:17:46 AM
With any luck it will cluster antivaxxers into public protests where they will be vulnerable to vaccine-administration-by-dart-gun, which ought to be phase 2 of the plan.

If Biden was smart, he'd advertise free HCQ/ivermectin cocktail shots at your local pharmacy.  Boom bait and switch and vaccines for all.  If only we had true innovative leadership

MUBurrow

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on September 10, 2021, 09:15:53 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1436320331510263828

Scotty G 2024 has my vote!! Perfect analysis, this "mandate" will have little to no affect on current delta surge.  By the time it's ready to be enforced his best estimate was fall of 2022 and at current new daily vaccination rate we should be 85-90% vaccinated at that point (adults at least).

There is absolutely no reason to believe that the current new daily vaccination rate would continue linearly to that point.

Warriors4ever

Instead of cash, free ivermectin with your vaccine shot.

pacearrow02

Quote from: MUBurrow on September 10, 2021, 10:39:39 AM
There is absolutely no reason to believe that the current new daily vaccination rate would continue linearly to that point.

Take that up with Scott, his words not mine.

jficke13

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on September 10, 2021, 10:01:24 AM
Fighting words!!  While old school is undoubtedly better....Ace Ventura did not suck, that's a hill I'll die on!

Eh, I find Jim Carrey to be very not funny at all. Every comedy he's ever been in has essentially rolled the ball to the middle of the court, given him the directive of "make funny faces, talk weird, and do the Jim-Carrey-Physical-Comedy-Routine (tm)" and... that's it. If that formula doesn't do it for you like it doesn't do it for me, there's nothing else to salvage from any of his movies.

Also, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was terrible, transparent from minute 5, shallow, and that people love and wax poetic about it absolutely baffles me.

JWags85

Quote from: jficke13 on September 10, 2021, 10:54:09 AM
Also, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was terrible, transparent from minute 5, shallow, and that people love and wax poetic about it absolutely baffles me.

Thank you, that movie was mediocre.  The only other "romance" movie that is raved about that I dislike more is 500 Days of Summer.  F that film

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: jficke13 on September 10, 2021, 10:54:09 AM
Eh, I find Jim Carrey to be very not funny at all. Every comedy he's ever been in has essentially rolled the ball to the middle of the court, given him the directive of "make funny faces, talk weird, and do the Jim-Carrey-Physical-Comedy-Routine (tm)" and... that's it. If that formula doesn't do it for you like it doesn't do it for me, there's nothing else to salvage from any of his movies.

Also, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind was terrible, transparent from minute 5, shallow, and that people love and wax poetic about it absolutely baffles me.

I hate Jim Carrey and his "humor" too

Jockey

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 10, 2021, 11:33:48 AM
I hate Jim Carrey and his "humor" too

Very talented guy, but it's almost slapstick. It never appealed to me.

tower912

Truman Show was his best work.   Like Stranger than Fiction for Ferrell.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on September 10, 2021, 01:54:38 PM
Truman Show was his best work.   Like Stranger than Fiction for Ferrell.

I agree it's fantastic, though if we're going dramatic there's a decent argument for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

Personally I've outgrown some of his earlier slapstick stuff but still enjoy Fun with Dick & Jane, Yes Man, and Bruce Almighty that are entertaining but not slapstick like Liar Liar, Cable Guy, or Ace Venture
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