Vaccine/Antibody updates

[GooooMarquette]

Below is a link to something that is being noticed anecdotally...vaccines are helping long haulers feel better.  Dr Iwasaki has some hypotheses and knowing the types of research they have been pursuing — hopefully starting a study. 

https://twitter.com/virusesimmunity/status/1366067849480048643?s=21

It is great that they are seeing evidence that the vaccine might help long-haulers. I never would have imagined that, and I hope it turns out to be true after further scientific study.

It must be awful to suffer through the initial illness, think you have finally put it past you, and then have symptoms for months on end.

[tower912]

I don't know if it is a coincidence or causality, but I got round 1 on February 17 and my sense of smell is slowly returning. After no real improvement for 3 months.

[GooooMarquette]

I don't know if it is a coincidence or causality, but I got round 1 on February 17 and my sense of smell is slowly returning. After no real improvement for 3 months.

Great to hear - hope it continues tower!

[pacearrow02]

Yep. The politics is getting old. Even when you make a comment about empathy, people try to turn it into politics. Crazy place...

Ya and you have no role in the political bickering right?!?  Crazy place indeed

[GooooMarquette]

Ya and you have no role in the political bickering right?!?  Crazy place indeed

Used to on occasion. Got old, so I gave it up and now stick with Covid, MU hoops or whatever.

Have a nice night.

[BM1090]

Three straight says of over 2 million vaccinated. Hopefully we can keep the pace.

[#UnleashSean]

I don't know if it is a coincidence or causality, but I got round 1 on February 17 and my sense of smell is slowly returning. After no real improvement for 3 months.

Mine is still 100 percent gone.

[tower912]

I feel ya.   Big odorless pile of suck.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I feel ya.   Big odorless pile of suck.

Can't smell the old lady's farts though.

[mu_hilltopper]

Yesterday we had some bacon that .. had no flavor.  Super odd, just flat pieces of flavorless bacon.   Everything else tasted fine though.

If COVID-21 just eliminates your taste of bacon, just kill us now.

[rocket surgeon]

Can't smell the old lady's farts though.

my gas never stinks...they do now though!  no wonder they still recommend a mask or 3

[MUfan12]

Thought this was worth a read- https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/

In relation to the discussion here, these passages stood out:

And the public behavior of the vaccinated cannot change overnight—even if they are at much lower risk, it's not reasonable to expect a grocery store to try to verify who's vaccinated, or to have two classes of people with different rules. For now, it's courteous and prudent for everyone to obey the same guidelines in many public places... But it is time to imagine a better future, not just because it's drawing nearer but because that's how we get through what remains and keep our guard up as necessary. It's also realistic—reflecting the genuine increased safety for the vaccinated.

We should encourage people to dream about the end of this pandemic by talking about it more, and more concretely: the numbers, hows, and whys. Offering clear guidance on how this will end can help strengthen people's resolve to endure whatever is necessary for the moment—even if they are still unvaccinated—by building warranted and realistic anticipation of the pandemic's end.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Thought this was worth a read- https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/

In relation to the discussion here, these passages stood out:

And the public behavior of the vaccinated cannot change overnight—even if they are at much lower risk, it's not reasonable to expect a grocery store to try to verify who's vaccinated, or to have two classes of people with different rules. For now, it's courteous and prudent for everyone to obey the same guidelines in many public places... But it is time to imagine a better future, not just because it's drawing nearer but because that's how we get through what remains and keep our guard up as necessary. It's also realistic—reflecting the genuine increased safety for the vaccinated.

We should encourage people to dream about the end of this pandemic by talking about it more, and more concretely: the numbers, hows, and whys. Offering clear guidance on how this will end can help strengthen people's resolve to endure whatever is necessary for the moment—even if they are still unvaccinated—by building warranted and realistic anticipation of the pandemic's end.

But fear porn drives eyeballs and clicks.

[The Sultan]

That is a great article.  So spot on.  There is so much reason for hope and we are just months away.

[cheebs09]

Thought this was worth a read- https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/

In relation to the discussion here, these passages stood out:

And the public behavior of the vaccinated cannot change overnight—even if they are at much lower risk, it's not reasonable to expect a grocery store to try to verify who's vaccinated, or to have two classes of people with different rules. For now, it's courteous and prudent for everyone to obey the same guidelines in many public places... But it is time to imagine a better future, not just because it's drawing nearer but because that's how we get through what remains and keep our guard up as necessary. It's also realistic—reflecting the genuine increased safety for the vaccinated.

We should encourage people to dream about the end of this pandemic by talking about it more, and more concretely: the numbers, hows, and whys. Offering clear guidance on how this will end can help strengthen people's resolve to endure whatever is necessary for the moment—even if they are still unvaccinated—by building warranted and realistic anticipation of the pandemic's end.

That's a great perspective. For me a vaccine would mean going out and about more, but I would still happily oblige masks and distancing requirements as more get vaccinated. We've done minimal shopping and limited in person gatherings quite a bit. Being able to expand our circle and activities would do a lot, even if it is still masked.

I never really thought about the difficulty of enforcing the vaccinated versus non-vaccinated.

[tower912]

I've had it, I've had my first vaccine.  Still wearing a mask in public buildings.  Two reasons.  1.  Common courtesy.  2.  I'm better looking with the mask.

[GooooMarquette]

That's a great perspective. For me a vaccine would mean going out and about more, but I would still happily oblige masks and distancing requirements as more get vaccinated. We've done minimal shopping and limited in person gatherings quite a bit. Being able to expand our circle and activities would do a lot, even if it is still masked.

I never really thought about the difficulty of enforcing the vaccinated versus non-vaccinated.

Agreed. My vaccine is still likely several weeks off, but if the CDC is still recommending masks at that point, I will happily do so to protect those not yet vaccinated.

I will just be thrilled to go out in public without the fear of getting infected. Masking to protect others is a small price to pay.

[copious1218]

I've had it, I've had my first vaccine.  Still wearing a mask in public buildings.  Two reasons.  1.  Common courtesy.  2.  I'm better looking with the mask.

Sure.  It's all about you!

[tower912]

Taking pity on others.

[mu_hilltopper]

I keep seeing people post about getting vaccinated and I *know* they are not eligible yet. 

Are the vaccinators checking at all?

Am I a sucker for not hunting for a shot and jumping the line?

Asking for a friend.

[cheebs09]

I keep seeing people post about getting vaccinated and I *know* they are not eligible yet. 

Are the vaccinators checking at all?

Am I a sucker for not hunting for a shot and jumping the line?

Asking for a friend.

We have a friend or two that I'm curious how they fit in. Unless the child caregiver or teacher categories are extremely broad.

[The Sultan]

It's basically on the honor system.

[Galway Eagle]

I keep seeing people post about getting vaccinated and I *know* they are not eligible yet. 

Are the vaccinators checking at all?

Am I a sucker for not hunting for a shot and jumping the line?

Asking for a friend.

I'm not going to lie, I did very little consulting work to get mine. That being said I'm ok with getting it on a technicality given the whole "add smokers to 1B" thing.

They did not check my pay stub or my signed letter saying I was working for the company. The lady said "which category?" I said "manufacturing" she gave me my first vaccine card and injected me.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I keep seeing people post about getting vaccinated and I *know* they are not eligible yet. 

Are the vaccinators checking at all?

Am I a sucker for not hunting for a shot and jumping the line?

Asking for a friend.

Which si why Connecticut is doing age based approach only to limit this stuff.

[Sir Lawrence]

I keep seeing people post about getting vaccinated and I *know* they are not eligible yet. 

Are the vaccinators checking at all?

Am I a sucker for not hunting for a shot and jumping the line?

Asking for a friend.

The teaching category is pretty wide open.  Marquette has issued letters to adjunct profs indicating that they qualify, yet some are 100% remote instructing.  I have a neighbor who volunteered to work at a vaccination site, so she (as she should, IMO) received the vax, even though she is in her 40's and would not otherwise qualify.  And I'm aware of a few that have been called to the convention center at the end of the day to fill in for no-shows as the vaccine apparently would otherwise have gone to waste.