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Author Topic: Vaccine/Antibody updates  (Read 357763 times)

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #600 on: December 03, 2020, 07:44:37 AM »
In a Massachusetts poll this week, 38 percent of respondents said they were unlikely or very unlikely to get a vaccine.

A Gallup poll last month showed 42 percent of Americans were unwilling to take a COVID-19 vaccine, even if it were FDA-approved and free.

Other polls have showed similar reluctance nationally and at the state level, although the numbers have improved since news of successful vaccine trials broke in the past month.
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #601 on: December 03, 2020, 08:10:47 AM »
In a Massachusetts poll this week, 38 percent of respondents said they were unlikely or very unlikely to get a vaccine.

A Gallup poll last month showed 42 percent of Americans were unwilling to take a COVID-19 vaccine, even if it were FDA-approved and free.

Other polls have showed similar reluctance nationally and at the state level, although the numbers have improved since news of successful vaccine trials broke in the past month.

People say one thing and will do another when they get a taste of normality.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #602 on: December 03, 2020, 08:18:09 AM »
People say one thing and will do another when they get a taste of normality.

Here's hoping. Also encouraging that the numbers who say no have been decreasing.
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #603 on: December 03, 2020, 08:21:12 AM »
I had a routine doctor's appointment yesterday.
My doctor said they would offer COVID vaccines for the general public starting April because he said they're a part of Yale Health System and Yale Health will be receiving vaccines.  He said he expects the vaccines will be available sooner to the public because "there are too many stupid people who won't take the vaccine, so there will be vaccines available to the public sooner."
He also said he preferred the Moderna vaccine based on the temperature storage issue.
 

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #604 on: December 03, 2020, 08:44:40 AM »
I had a routine doctor's appointment yesterday.
My doctor said they would offer COVID vaccines for the general public starting April because he said they're a part of Yale Health System and Yale Health will be receiving vaccines.  He said he expects the vaccines will be available sooner to the public because "there are too many stupid people who won't take the vaccine, so there will be vaccines available to the public sooner."
He also said he preferred the Moderna vaccine based on the temperature storage issue.

Personally, I will take whichever I can get first.  Having said that, Moderna is not my favorite company.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #605 on: December 03, 2020, 09:10:30 AM »
Personally, I will take whichever I can get first.  Having said that, Moderna is not my favorite company.

Moderna: Because Moderna has never brought a product to market before? Or that it's based on mRNA technology and the first ever mRNA therapy was approved in 2019?

I'm not that confident that production + logistics is going to go as smoothly as people are expecting.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #606 on: December 03, 2020, 09:23:53 AM »
Moderna: Because Moderna has never brought a product to market before? Or that it's based on mRNA technology and the first ever mRNA therapy was approved in 2019?

I'm not that confident that production + logistics is going to go as smoothly as people are expecting.


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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #607 on: December 03, 2020, 09:47:27 AM »
Personally, I will take whichever I can get first.  Having said that, Moderna is not my favorite company.

Moderna: Because Moderna has never brought a product to market before? Or that it's based on mRNA technology and the first ever mRNA therapy was approved in 2019?

I'm not that confident that production + logistics is going to go as smoothly as people are expecting.

I used to also not be a big fan of Moderna. Seemed sketchy, and had concerns about the fact that they have never brought a product to market. Having talked to colleagues, in the know, I have much more faith in them in terms of the vaccine. Would be very happy to get it.

But, I have concerns about production and logistics too. Could limit the availability of the Moderna vaccine.

Overall though, I have major concerns regarding the vaccine roll-outs. States still haven't been provided the finances and resources to be able to execute any plans.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #608 on: December 03, 2020, 09:55:02 AM »
Once we all start getting vacines,  are we still gonna have to wear masks?  Like, if I get mine in April, but most people dont until June, am i the asshöle for not wearing a mask.  Or do i get a hat or a sticker to wear, "vaccinated", and then I'm good?

Part sarcasm but part serious question.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #609 on: December 03, 2020, 09:57:16 AM »
Once we all start getting vacines,  are we still gonna have to wear masks?  Like, if I get mine in April, but most people dont until June, am i the asshöle for not wearing a mask.  Or do i get a hat or a sticker to wear, "vaccinated", and then I'm good?

Part sarcasm but part serious question.

Someone stated on CNN last night that there's talks of an Vaccination ID that people will receive. I would guess that would cover you to not wear a mask
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #610 on: December 03, 2020, 09:59:59 AM »
Maybe we could get one for each vaccine we've received and then just pin them to our shirts like pieces of flair?

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #611 on: December 03, 2020, 10:08:29 AM »
Once we all start getting vacines,  are we still gonna have to wear masks?  Like, if I get mine in April, but most people dont until June, am i the asshöle for not wearing a mask.  Or do i get a hat or a sticker to wear, "vaccinated", and then I'm good?

Part sarcasm but part serious question.

Quite simply. Yes.

We don't know if you can be a vector for disease spread still after vaccination. But you would be more likely to have a asymptomatic case. Which means, if you can still be a disease vector, you may be more likely to be a super spreader.

So masks are still absolutely necessary for those that get vaccinated, unless you only care about your self, and don't give a damn if you spread this to dozens of others.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #612 on: December 03, 2020, 10:08:45 AM »
What real presidents who really care about real Americans do ...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/02/covid-vaccine-obama-will-take-doses-might-film-to-build-confidence.html

Former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton have said they will take a coronavirus vaccine once one is available and may film it to build confidence in the U.S. about vaccine safety.
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #613 on: December 03, 2020, 10:09:58 AM »
Maybe we could get one for each vaccine we've received and then just pin them to our shirts like pieces of flair?

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #614 on: December 03, 2020, 10:14:15 AM »
Someone stated on CNN last night that there's talks of an Vaccination ID that people will receive. I would guess that would cover you to not wear a mask

Microchip or gold star?

I kid of course.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #615 on: December 03, 2020, 11:06:06 AM »
Once we all start getting vacines,  are we still gonna have to wear masks?  Like, if I get mine in April, but most people dont until June, am i the asshöle for not wearing a mask.  Or do i get a hat or a sticker to wear, "vaccinated", and then I'm good?

Part sarcasm but part serious question.

You're usually the a-hole.     Seriously, though, I don't think anyone has that answer yet.   
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #616 on: December 03, 2020, 11:12:55 AM »
Quite simply. Yes.

We don't know if you can be a vector for disease spread still after vaccination. But you would be more likely to have a asymptomatic case. Which means, if you can still be a disease vector, you may be more likely to be a super spreader.

So masks are still absolutely necessary for those that get vaccinated, unless you only care about your self, and don't give a damn if you spread this to dozens of others.

I wouldn't mind wearing a mask after getting the vaccine, even if its only purpose was to make other people more comfortable to be around me.

And I do hope they have a vaccine ID.  I think it would open things up more quickly.  For example, they could start letting people into basketball games, but you would have to show your vaccination ID as well as your ticket to get in.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #617 on: December 03, 2020, 11:14:01 AM »
FWIW, I am still wearing a mask in public.    Common courtesy, really.   
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #618 on: December 03, 2020, 11:23:11 AM »
I wouldn't mind wearing a mask after getting the vaccine, even if its only purpose was to make other people more comfortable to be around me.

And I do hope they have a vaccine ID.  I think it would open things up more quickly.  For example, they could start letting people into basketball games, but you would have to show your vaccination ID as well as your ticket to get in.

Agreed. As much as people would freak out about it being invasive it'd be good for the economy and a return to normalcy. Sports games, concerts, bars, restaurants, etc etc. I'd still wear a mask as a courtesy but would gladly waltz right into all my old favorite activities.
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #619 on: December 03, 2020, 11:25:28 AM »
I'm going to corner the market on fake vaccine IDs.
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #620 on: December 03, 2020, 01:00:18 PM »
Quite simply. Yes.

We don't know if you can be a vector for disease spread still after vaccination. But you would be more likely to have a asymptomatic case. Which means, if you can still be a disease vector, you may be more likely to be a super spreader.

So masks are still absolutely necessary for those that get vaccinated, unless you only care about your self, and don't give a damn if you spread this to dozens of others.

So the mask-related value projecting pissing match of 2021 is going to be about threading the needle between "the vaccine has been available long enough that anyone that wanted one has gotten one so you can take off your masks" and "the immunity of the first people to get vaccines might be wearing off so put your masks back on"? Looking forward to it.

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #621 on: December 03, 2020, 01:10:24 PM »
So the mask-related value projecting pissing match of 2021 is going to be about threading the needle between "the vaccine has been available long enough that anyone that wanted one has gotten one so you can take off your masks" and "the immunity of the first people to get vaccines might be wearing off so put your masks back on"? Looking forward to it.

We might as well sew 'em to our faces, hey?

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #622 on: December 03, 2020, 01:28:13 PM »
In our current Presidential leadership vacuum, three former Presidents (Bush, Clinton and Obama) consider getting vaccinated on camera to bolster public confidence in the vaccines.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/03/covid-vaccine-obama-bush-clinton-said-theyll-take-publicly/3806592001/

Sure would be nice if the current occupant did more than just taking credit for OWS....
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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #623 on: December 03, 2020, 02:14:15 PM »
This is really cool .. shows a guess where you are in line for the vaccine:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html

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Re: Vaccine/Antibody updates
« Reply #624 on: December 03, 2020, 02:25:30 PM »
This is really cool .. shows a guess where you are in line for the vaccine:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html

Anybody know if having a Left Bundle Branch Block would be considered a "covid related health risk" or "heart disease?"  If so I am a little over 25% back in the line.  If not (and I don't think it would be) I am the very last person in line in this exercise.
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