Vaccine/Antibody updates

[jesmu84]

  comparing apples and clothing optional beaches yo.  helmits, life vests and seat belts always good...so are parachutes, and covering your mouth when ya sneeze and/or cough, but i digress

  follow the science, not your worries.  get yourself vaccinated and live

Doesn't the science say masks work?

[pacearrow02]

Doesn't the science say masks work?

Now up to 5 members of the Texas house who are on this silly publicity stunt have tested positive, all of which who have been fully vaccinated.  Just can't make this stuff up.

[pbiflyer]

Now up to 5 members of the Texas house who are on this silly publicity stunt have tested positive, all of which who have been fully vaccinated.  Just can't make this stuff up.

Are they sick? Hospitalized? Dead? If not, then yah science, it works.

[pacearrow02]

Are they sick? Hospitalized? Dead? If not, then yah science, it works.

They sent our beloved VP to the hospital?!?!

This behavior is reckless and unnecessary.  In the past few days they've met with VP, Manchin, and other prominent DC politicians with each meeting now serving as mini super spreader events.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

  comparing apples and clothing optional beaches yo.  helmits, life vests and seat belts always good...so are parachutes, and covering your mouth when ya sneeze and/or cough, but i digress

Until the jackasses at Fox decide to tell, for purely political purposes, that helmets, life vests, and/or seat belts are bad. Then you'll instantly report to Scoop to vomit up whatever disinformation they tell you.

And LOL on sneezes/or coughs. Again, it would be so much better for our species if stupidity this breathtaking were actually physically painful.

[MU82]

This behavior is reckless and unnecessary.  In the past few days they've met with VP, Manchin, and other prominent DC politicians with each meeting now serving as mini super spreader events.

Spreading the virus is irresponsible, and I wish it didn't happen. The Texas Dems knew it was likely they were going to have to leave their state, and they should have gotten themselves tested in advance so that those who tested positive could have gone into quarantine upon leaving.

But it's more than a "publicity stunt," and one could argue that fighting the GOP's attempts to suppress the vote is the opposite of "unnecessary."

The previous president held one superspreader event after another, before vaccines, no masks required, no social distancing necessary, against the advice of the experts he himself hired, when COVID-19 was killing thousands of people a day. (RIP Herman Cain.) And the only cause he was interested in was his own power. I'm trying to remember if you called those "reckless and unnecessary." Maybe you did; if so, thanks!

[pbiflyer]

They sent our beloved VP to the hospital?!?!

This behavior is reckless and unnecessary.  In the past few days they've met with VP, Manchin, and other prominent DC politicians with each meeting now serving as mini super spreader events.

Let me get this straight. You are advocating immediate stopping of domestic air travel without a negative covid test?
Otherwise it's irresponsible? Good to know.

[Hards Alumni]

I absolutely love that this has devolved into a place of partisan stupidity and bad takes.

Well done guys, well fukcin done!

[The Sultan]

They sent our beloved VP to the hospital?!?!

This behavior is reckless and unnecessary.  In the past few days they've met with VP, Manchin, and other prominent DC politicians with each meeting now serving as mini super spreader events.

I don't think you understand the implications of testing positive when you are vaccinated.

[MU82]

From the NYT's David Leonhardt:

When the Kaiser Family Foundation conducted a poll at the start of the year and asked American adults whether they planned to get vaccinated, 23 percent said no.

But a significant portion of that group — about one quarter of it — has since decided to receive a shot. The Kaiser pollsters recently followed up and asked these converts what led them to change their minds. The answers are important, because they offer insight into how the millions of still unvaccinated Americans might be persuaded to get shots, too.

Kaiser findings: https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-in-their-own-words-six-months-later/?_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8scN9wbsrWvv-Y18QA0SVjrwEWGDQPf0vCqHPSNkpfdaQ1kePTFMG556sItFkui_N2iQ7FuBKdiZsSLkLOMh7HNFhPTg&_hsmi=2&campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210719&instance_id=35675&nl=the-morning&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=63826&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa&utm_campaign=KFF-2021-polling-surveys&utm_content=2&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hs_email

The three themes

What helps move people from vaccine skeptical to vaccinated? The Kaiser polls point to three main themes.

(The themes apply to both the 23 percent of people who said they would not get a shot, as well as to the 28 percent who described their attitude in January as "wait and see." About half of the "wait and see" group has since gotten a shot.)

1. Seeing that millions of other Americans have been safely vaccinated.

2. Hearing pro-vaccine messages from doctors, friends and relatives.

3. Learning that not being vaccinated will prevent people from doing some things.

And here's the latest info on who is and isn't getting the vaccine in America:

[pacearrow02]

Are they sick? Hospitalized? Dead? If not, then yah science, it works.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-60-of-people-being-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-have-been-double-jabbed-says-vallance-12359317

[BM1090]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-60-of-people-being-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus-have-been-double-jabbed-says-vallance-12359317

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1417166802736537618

https://twitter.com/kennyshirley/status/1417177778013843456

[pacearrow02]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1417166802736537618

https://twitter.com/kennyshirley/status/1417177778013843456

Is 95% of their population vaccinated or just those 65+?  Not familiar with their overall numbers

And wasn't Pfizer supposed to be 98 or 99% effective against hospitalization not 90? 

[MU82]

Federal judge allows Indiana University to continue with its COVID-19 vaccine requirement for all students and employees.

https://apnews.com/article/health-government-and-politics-education-indiana-coronavirus-pandemic-39f985eeca76c23ad5b47f856ef034dc

A ruling from a judge in South Bend has rejected a request from eight IU students who sought to block the requirement while they pursued a lawsuit claiming that the university's policy violated both their constitutional rights and the state's new law banning vaccine passports.

The judge held a hearing on the case last week and wrote in his ruling dated Sunday that evidence so far shows that IU has pursued a reasonable policy in the "legitimate interest of public health for its students, faculty and staff."

The judge said the students who object to receiving the vaccine shots can seek medical and religious exemptions offered by the university, while also having the option of taking the fall semester off or attending another school.

IU said in a statement that the ruling allows the school to focus on "a full and safe return" for the fall semester on all its campuses.

[MUBurrow]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1417166802736537618

https://twitter.com/kennyshirley/status/1417177778013843456

[pacearrow02]

Is 95% of their population vaccinated or just those 65+?  Not familiar with their overall numbers

And wasn't Pfizer supposed to be 98 or 99% effective against hospitalization not 90?

Answered my own questions.  They as a whole are only 53% fully vaccinated, not 95% as your links suggested. Looks like majority of those vaccinated are doing either Pfizer (97% effective against hospitalizations) or AZ (90% effective).

Either way something isn't jiving

[pacearrow02]

https://mobile.twitter.com/uksciencechief/status/1417204235356213252

Thank goodness

[cheebs09]

https://mobile.twitter.com/uksciencechief/status/1417204235356213252

Thank goodness

40% seems high still. Although if most are from a non-MRNA vaccine, that makes sense. Also, I don't know what their standards to admit someone to the hospital is. Maybe they are extra conservative with those who are elderly and test positive regardless of vaccination status.

[jesmu84]

40% seems high still. Although if most are from a non-MRNA vaccine, that makes sense. Also, I don't know what their standards to admit someone to the hospital is. Maybe they are extra conservative with those who are elderly and test positive regardless of vaccination status.

Go back and look at the linked tweet for kenny shirley

[pacearrow02]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-side-effects-hospitalization-kids-11626706868?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/j9yoE88i0i

John Hopkins found a 0% mortality in kids without pre-existing condition. 

[Skatastrophy]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-side-effects-hospitalization-kids-11626706868?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/j9yoE88i0i

John Hopkins found a 0% mortality in kids without pre-existing condition. 

Stop reading opinion sections and your life will improve.

[Pakuni]

Its over for the vaccinated, unless you continue to drink the government's kool-aid, hey?

What kool-aid is that? Isn't the CDC basically saying the same thing you are?

[Pakuni]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-side-effects-hospitalization-kids-11626706868?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/j9yoE88i0i

John Hopkins found a 0% mortality in kids without pre-existing condition.

Is not dying the only benefit of getting vaccinated? If not, this is a stupid and worthless argument.
The mortality rate for chickenpox was virtually nil before a vaccine was available, and yet we still see the benefit of vaccinating children, and in most places require it, right?

[MUDPT]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-side-effects-hospitalization-kids-11626706868?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/j9yoE88i0i

John Hopkins found a 0% mortality in kids without pre-existing condition.

I would wager that at least 85% of the adult mortality has a pre existing condition. At least the ones. I've worked with.

[MU82]

From McClatchey News:

With the delta variant on the rise across America, more top Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, are urging people to get vaccinated. "The way to avoid getting back into the hospital is to get vaccinated," McConnell said.

But the GOP is still not united, with other legislators refusing to condemn vaccine skepticism. Rep. Jason Smith of Missouri recently described President Joe Biden's vaccine outreach policy as "KGB-style."

New coronavirus cases across the U.S. have risen almost 200% over the past two weeks, and conservative parts of the country are being hit the hardest.