Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)

[shoothoops]

One study.  There are others.   Bottom line for me; there are other treatments I would want my doctor to use on me.

It had 96,000 COVID-19 patients at 671 hospitals in the study.

[Jockey]

Study:

Hydroxychloroquine combined with antibiotic has 45% increased risk of death and 411% increased risk of serious heart arrythmias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/#click=https://t.co/IFL3g7rylo

Fake news, everyone. I would ask all Trump supporters to use this drug to show your support of the president.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Study:

Hydroxychloroquine combined with antibiotic has 45% increased risk of death and 411% increased risk of serious heart arrythmias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/#click=https://t.co/IFL3g7rylo

If he was taking it, I'd bet my butt this is whey he stopped--heart issues or other side effects. Pelosi was right, obesity is a big ol' co-morbidity.

[GooooMarquette]

Might be time to rename this thread to "Potential Treatments," since HCQ as a treatment for COVID is likely to go the way of Thalidomide as a treatment for insomnia.

[rocky_warrior]

Might be time to rename this thread to "Potential Treatments," since HCQ as a treatment for COVID is likely to go the way of Thalidomide as a treatment for insomnia.

Until rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.

[Hards Alumni]

Until rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.

[GooooMarquette]

Until rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.

[pacearrow02]

It had 96,000 COVID-19 patients at 671 hospitals in the study.

But was it a double blind, peer reviewed, controlled study?  If not it means nothing.

[Chili]

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/remdesivir-study-finally-out-drug-only-helped-those-oxygen-finds-mortality-too-high

[real chili 83]

Hards with the reach around.

[shoothoops]

But was it a double blind, peer reviewed, controlled study?  If not it means nothing.

Did you read the article?


The sheer size of the study is what has concerned many scientists and doctors across the country 96,000 patients. And, the results were similar to the 13 double blind controlled studies also mentioned in the article including the NIH last month.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Until Fox News tells rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.

[Hards Alumni]

Hards with the reach around.

You interested in seconds?

[tower912]

https://www.aol.com/cannabis-more-effective-preventing-treating-184301448.html


I'm in.   

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

But was it a double blind, peer reviewed, controlled study?  If not it means nothing.

I'll defer to medical professionals, but my common sense hat says that is the gold standard to prove efficacy.  The standard to deem something ineffective or unsafe is much lower (thankfully for all of us). 

[GooooMarquette]

I'll defer to medical professionals, but my common sense hat says that is the gold standard to prove efficacy.  The standard to deem something ineffective or unsafe is much lower (thankfully for all of us).

Your common sense hat is pretty good.

A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial is indeed the gold standard for proving safety and efficacy. However observational studies (especially one with as many patients as this one had) can give us a wealth of information, which often tells us that more definitive studies might not be worth the time, effort and cost.

I suspect they will finish any ongoing studies given the high stakes but I am far more optimistic about other potential treatments, like convalescent plasma.

[MU82]

https://www.aol.com/cannabis-more-effective-preventing-treating-184301448.html


I'm in.

What the hell do any of us have to lose?!?!?!

[GooooMarquette]

What the hell do any of us have to lose?!?!?!

Probably should make sure grocery stores have plenty of Cheetos in stock before we publicize this one....

[forgetful]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/26/france-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirs-281740

France is even shutting down use now.

[tower912]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/26/france-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirs-281740

France is even shutting down use now.

France always retreats.

[Hards Alumni]

France always retreats.

I know its teal, and at the risk of going off topic... the French are not the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that they get made out to be.   

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I know its teal, and at the risk of going off topic... the French are not the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that they get made out to be.   

Fake news

[tower912]

I know its teal, and at the risk of going off topic... the French are not the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that they get made out to be.   

I know.   Humor.   Hence the teal.

[The Sultan]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being "cheese eating" either.

[tower912]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fauci-hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-against-142215234.html

And.... hydroxychloroquine takes another hit.