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Author Topic: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)  (Read 124121 times)

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #400 on: May 22, 2020, 10:20:49 AM »
One study.  There are others.   Bottom line for me; there are other treatments I would want my doctor to use on me.

It had 96,000 COVID-19 patients at 671 hospitals in the study.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #401 on: May 22, 2020, 11:12:04 AM »
Study:

Hydroxychloroquine combined with antibiotic has 45% increased risk of death and 411% increased risk of serious heart arrythmias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/#click=https://t.co/IFL3g7rylo

Fake news, everyone. I would ask all Trump supporters to use this drug to show your support of the president.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #402 on: May 22, 2020, 11:13:43 AM »
Study:

Hydroxychloroquine combined with antibiotic has 45% increased risk of death and 411% increased risk of serious heart arrythmias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/#click=https://t.co/IFL3g7rylo
If he was taking it, I'd bet my butt this is whey he stopped--heart issues or other side effects. Pelosi was right, obesity is a big ol' co-morbidity.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #403 on: May 22, 2020, 04:00:37 PM »
Might be time to rename this thread to “Potential Treatments,” since HCQ as a treatment for COVID is likely to go the way of Thalidomide as a treatment for insomnia.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #404 on: May 22, 2020, 08:12:31 PM »
Might be time to rename this thread to “Potential Treatments,” since HCQ as a treatment for COVID is likely to go the way of Thalidomide as a treatment for insomnia.

Until rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2020, 08:20:00 PM by rocky_warrior »

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #405 on: May 22, 2020, 08:46:11 PM »
Until rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.


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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #406 on: May 22, 2020, 08:53:42 PM »
Until rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #407 on: May 22, 2020, 11:10:28 PM »
It had 96,000 COVID-19 patients at 671 hospitals in the study.

But was it a double blind, peer reviewed, controlled study?  If not it means nothing.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #410 on: May 23, 2020, 09:34:45 AM »
But was it a double blind, peer reviewed, controlled study?  If not it means nothing.

Did you read the article?


The sheer size of the study is what has concerned many scientists and doctors across the country 96,000 patients. And, the results were similar to the 13 double blind controlled studies also mentioned in the article including the NIH last month.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #411 on: May 23, 2020, 09:43:25 AM »
Until Fox News tells rocket says it's off the table, this thread is open.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #412 on: May 23, 2020, 10:18:40 AM »
Hards with the reach around.

You interested in seconds?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #414 on: May 23, 2020, 11:08:11 AM »
But was it a double blind, peer reviewed, controlled study?  If not it means nothing.

I’ll defer to medical professionals, but my common sense hat says that is the gold standard to prove efficacy.  The standard to deem something ineffective or unsafe is much lower (thankfully for all of us). 

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #415 on: May 23, 2020, 11:53:47 AM »
I’ll defer to medical professionals, but my common sense hat says that is the gold standard to prove efficacy.  The standard to deem something ineffective or unsafe is much lower (thankfully for all of us).

Your common sense hat is pretty good.

A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial is indeed the gold standard for proving safety and efficacy. However observational studies (especially one with as many patients as this one had) can give us a wealth of information, which often tells us that more definitive studies might not be worth the time, effort and cost.

I suspect they will finish any ongoing studies given the high stakes but I am far more optimistic about other potential treatments, like convalescent plasma.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #417 on: May 24, 2020, 10:02:15 AM »
What the hell do any of us have to lose?!?!?!


Probably should make sure grocery stores have plenty of Cheetos in stock before we publicize this one....

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Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #420 on: May 27, 2020, 10:43:50 AM »
France always retreats.

I know its teal, and at the risk of going off topic... the French are not the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that they get made out to be.   ;D

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #421 on: May 27, 2020, 11:00:25 AM »
I know its teal, and at the risk of going off topic... the French are not the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that they get made out to be.   ;D

Fake news

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #422 on: May 27, 2020, 11:06:55 AM »
I know its teal, and at the risk of going off topic... the French are not the cheese-eating surrender monkeys that they get made out to be.   ;D
I know.   Humor.   Hence the teal.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #423 on: May 27, 2020, 11:16:57 AM »
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being "cheese eating" either.
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Re: Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)
« Reply #424 on: May 27, 2020, 01:34:37 PM »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.