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mu_hilltopper

Wow.  This is just priceless:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-secretary-blasts-fired-aircraft-carrier-captain

My favorite:

"Crew of the Teddy Roosevelt, you are under no obligation to love your leadership, only respect it," he continued. "You are under no obligation to like your job, only to do it."

I'm surprised .. there hasn't been a mass resignation or something.

The Sultan

I do understand Modly's point of view regarding the communication of the potential readiness of a ship.

But his language is over the top.  And reprimanding the people who cheered him wasn't a smart move either.  And the China stuff is the gaslighting that we are going to hear a lot of over the next seven months.

And then there is this:

"If I could offer you a glimpse of the level of hatred and pure evil that has been thrown my way, my family's way over this decision, I would," Modly said. "But it doesn't matter. It's not about me. "

OK...then don't make it about you.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 06, 2020, 01:24:41 PM
Wow.  This is just priceless:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-secretary-blasts-fired-aircraft-carrier-captain

My favorite:

"Crew of the Teddy RooseveltMUScoop Family, you are under no obligation to love your leadership, only respect it," he continued. "You are under no obligation to like your job, only to do it."

I'm surprised .. there hasn't been a mass resignation or something.
A new scoop motto

Jockey

Yes, this is a snarky comment.

Capt. Crozier would have been better off committing war crimes. He would have been hailed as a hero.

pbiflyer

So let me get this straight, Modly relieved the Capt for using a communication method that he should have known would be leaked. He then addresses the sailors on board via the PA, a communication method which got leaked.......

The Sultan

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 06, 2020, 04:47:20 PM
So let me get this straight, Modly relieved the Capt for using a communication method that he should have known would be leaked. He then addresses the sailors on board via the PA, a communication method which got leaked.......

Modly knew it would get leaked. He said nothing that he wasn't prepared to get out.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

mu_hilltopper


pbiflyer

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 06, 2020, 04:52:23 PM
Modly knew it would get leaked. He said nothing that he wasn't prepared to get out.

If he didn't want it to get out, he should resign.

After listening to the tape, if he did indeed want it to get out, he should resign.

pbiflyer

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 06, 2020, 04:52:23 PM
Modly knew it would get leaked. He said nothing that he wasn't prepared to get out.

Well, this post aged well.

Acting secretary of the Navy resigns after calling ousted aircraft carrier captain 'stupid'

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/politics/modly-resign-crozier-esper-trump/index.html

tower912

Dumb is apparently as contagious as Covid19.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 07, 2020, 05:01:22 PM
Well, this post aged well.

Acting secretary of the Navy resigns after calling ousted aircraft carrier captain 'stupid'

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/politics/modly-resign-crozier-esper-trump/index.html



I'll add it to my list. 😎😎
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Dude spent a lot of money to go get himself fired

@rabrowne75: CNN has confirmed that newly resigned acting Navy Secretary Modly's recent trip to Guam where he addressed the crew of the USS Theodore Roosevelt & slammed their former commanding officer, remarks that cost him his job, cost the @DeptofDefense ~$243,000, per a Navy estimate

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on April 08, 2020, 06:56:11 PM
Dude spent a lot of money to go get himself fired

@rabrowne75: CNN has confirmed that newly resigned acting Navy Secretary Modly's recent trip to Guam where he addressed the crew of the USS Theodore Roosevelt & slammed their former commanding officer, remarks that cost him his job, cost the @DeptofDefense ~$243,000, per a Navy estimate

Didn't cost the Defense Dept. nothing.

It cost us taxpayers $243000

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: Jockey on April 08, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Didn't cost the Defense Dept. nothing.

It cost us taxpayers $243000

Nah, the Navy rents out their boats for parties and stuff.  They have their own revenue.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on April 09, 2020, 08:10:05 AM
Nah, the Navy rents out their boats for parties and stuff.  They have their own revenue.
Proof
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Pakuni

@DeaconBlues0: USS Theodore Roosevelt now has 550 cases of Cornavirus. They only had 95 cases when CAPT Crozier's pleas for help were ignored and he was relieved of command.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on April 11, 2020, 09:20:01 PM
@DeaconBlues0: USS Theodore Roosevelt now has 550 cases of Cornavirus. They only had 95 cases when CAPT Crozier's pleas for help were ignored and he was relieved of command.

This is what happens when trump fires competent leaders and installs his lackeys.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on April 11, 2020, 09:33:45 PM
This is what happens when trump fires competent leaders and installs his lackeys.

Nope.  It's what happens when you have a 14 day incubation period.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

#UnleashSean

This will actually be a pretty good test of how deadly this virus is to healthy individuals.

Pakuni

Quote from: #UnleashJayce on April 11, 2020, 09:40:41 PM
This will actually be a pretty good test of how deadly this virus is to healthy individuals.

Tuskegee Experiment, 2020?

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Pakuni on April 11, 2020, 09:47:54 PM
Tuskegee Experiment, 2020?

Gotta put that in the conspiracy theory thread.

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 11, 2020, 09:37:53 PM
Nope.  It's what happens when you have a 14 day incubation period.

No. I was speaking of the way that Capt. Crozier was treated - not about the spread of the virus. That is bad leadership from lackeys who think their job  is to impress one man.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on April 12, 2020, 12:41:00 AM
No. I was speaking of the way that Capt. Crozier was treated - not about the spread of the virus. That is bad leadership from lackeys who think their job  is to impress one man.


Nope.  The virus would have spread regardless if he would have been fired or not.

Stick to facts.  Not talking points.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 11, 2020, 09:37:53 PM
Nope.  It's what happens when you have a 14 day incubation period.

Eh ... 14 days is on the very far edge of the incubation period. The median is about 5 days, and  symptoms appear within 11 days for 98 percent of cases.
Certainly it's not unreasonable to suggest that had Crozier's requests been taken seriously from the onset (he wrote his letter March 30), there would be fewer ill sailors from the carrier's crew today.
How many less seems impossible to know, but we know that social distancing and similar measures help, so it seems almost certain.

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