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#UnleashSean

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #125 on: January 13, 2022, 07:18:24 PM »
Unfortunately it’s too early in this particular situation but historically speaking it’s clear that VAERS adverse events are underreported:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/modern-day-censorship/up-to-95-serious-adversedrug-events-go-unreported/amp/

Everyone in this thread is now dumber thanks to you linking this article. May God have mercy on your soul.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #126 on: January 13, 2022, 07:19:07 PM »
We are fighting about whether or not to mandate vaccines everywhere because we have deemed it too inhumane to discuss mandating vaccination for hospital admission.  I'm not advocating either way, but if we mandated vaccination to be admitted to the hospital, we wouldn't need to debate whether to mandate it anywhere else.


Yaaaaaaaa. That's a little extreme there.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #127 on: January 13, 2022, 07:22:07 PM »
The initial vaccine by itself may not, uncertain at this time but there’s this concern that was recently brought out by the EU:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-11/repeat-booster-shots-risk-overloading-immune-system-ema-says

So you've gone from 1,000,000 covid vaccine related deaths in the US, to the initial vaccine is a okay, but boosters every 4 months "may" weaken immune system? Gotcha.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #128 on: January 13, 2022, 11:27:47 PM »
So you've gone from 1,000,000 covid vaccine related deaths in the US, to the initial vaccine is a okay, but boosters every 4 months "may" weaken immune system? Gotcha.

Where did I say a million vaccine deaths?  We’re past a million adverse event reports on VAERS which are undercounted but most aren’t deaths.  The fact that the EU is starting to worry about this tells me that things are kind of shifting for the previously one sided health organizations and media drivel.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #129 on: January 14, 2022, 12:27:53 AM »
Where did I say a million vaccine deaths?  We’re past a million adverse event reports on VAERS which are undercounted but most aren’t deaths.  The fact that the EU is starting to worry about this tells me that things are kind of shifting for the previously one sided health organizations and media drivel.

Hey man, anti-vax OGs were citing VAERS March April 2021.  Your talking points are dated.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=60399.msg1341665#msg1341665
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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #130 on: January 14, 2022, 08:13:37 PM »
Hey man, anti-vax OGs were citing VAERS March April 2021.  Your talking points are dated.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=60399.msg1341665#msg1341665

Well it’s grown since then and more young people have taken the vax/boosters which is the more at-risk group for myo/pericarditis.

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« Reply #131 on: January 14, 2022, 09:26:09 PM »
Well it’s grown since then and more young people have taken the vax/boosters which is the more at-risk group for myo/pericarditis.

Risk is higher for myocarditis from covid than the vax

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #132 on: January 14, 2022, 10:41:31 PM »
Well it’s grown since then and more young people have taken the vax/boosters which is the more at-risk group for myo/pericarditis.

Ah, you been banned from Twitter, too?

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #133 on: January 15, 2022, 09:10:33 AM »
Risk is higher for myocarditis from covid than the vax

Not when VAERS is consistently under-reported.  With that being the case we truly don’t know, unless you can prove that VAERS adverse events are correctly or being over-reported.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #134 on: January 15, 2022, 09:34:00 AM »
Not when VAERS is consistently under-reported.  With that being the case we truly don’t know, unless you can prove that VAERS adverse events are correctly or being over-reported.

Wrong.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #135 on: January 15, 2022, 09:38:19 AM »
Not when VAERS is consistently under-reported.  With that being the case we truly don’t know, unless you can prove that VAERS adverse events are correctly or being over-reported.

I just reported your posts giving me cancer to VAERS.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #136 on: January 15, 2022, 10:04:49 AM »
I'm continually astonished .. and depressed .. by posters who are constantly, boldly, wrong.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2022, 04:02:33 PM »
I'm continually astonished .. and depressed .. by posters who are constantly, boldly, wrong.

Jockey wears us all out.

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« Reply #138 on: January 24, 2022, 12:47:51 PM »
Not when VAERS is consistently under-reported.  With that being the case we truly don’t know, unless you can prove that VAERS adverse events are correctly or being over-reported.

The Shady Site That Shows Anti-Vaxxers Will Believe Anything
https://news.yahoo.com/shady-shows-anti-vaxxers-believe-015915086.html

"Last month, a British man launched a site allowing visitors to type in COVID-19 vaccine lot numbers, the codes that identify batches of the safe and effective shots, and call up the number of alleged deaths and injuries associated with them.

These figures are drawn from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The safety monitoring database, operated jointly by the CDC and FDA, encourages people to submit reports of anything negative that happened after they or someone they know received a vaccine, so experts can scrutinize their accounts and potentially identify rare or unexpected risks. Many of these reports are unverified, but of the cases that do get investigated, the vast majority turn out to be unrelated to vaccines; those that are related are usually minor reactions.

At times, Paardekooper adopts a cautious scientific voice, stressing that there are many possible explanations for these observations. But instead of exercising actual scientific caution himself, Paardekooper runs through what Paul V. Williams, an immunologist who reviewed his claims, characterized as “likely faulty data analysis” supplemented by “wild conjecture and conspiracy theories” to present a series of increasingly batcrap arguments as the only logical conclusions.

Misinformation experts believe that these arguments could also be compelling to many people who nurse doubts about vaccines but haven’t gone full anti-vaxxer yet. After all, it’s easier to sell someone on the claim that only a portion of the shots—that in truth have saved millions of lives and only cause notable adverse reactions in exceedingly rare cases—are dangerously toxic than it is to argue that they are uniformly malignant. And the embrace of this “bad batch” theory could hamper vaccination efforts and fuel general mistrust in governments and health-care systems—all as experts and institutions struggle to contain the spread of the highly infectious Omicron variant."
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #139 on: January 24, 2022, 12:59:51 PM »
The Shady Site That Shows Anti-Vaxxers Will Believe Anything
https://news.yahoo.com/shady-shows-anti-vaxxers-believe-015915086.html

"Last month, a British man launched a site allowing visitors to type in COVID-19 vaccine lot numbers, the codes that identify batches of the safe and effective shots, and call up the number of alleged deaths and injuries associated with them.

These figures are drawn from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The safety monitoring database, operated jointly by the CDC and FDA, encourages people to submit reports of anything negative that happened after they or someone they know received a vaccine, so experts can scrutinize their accounts and potentially identify rare or unexpected risks. Many of these reports are unverified, but of the cases that do get investigated, the vast majority turn out to be unrelated to vaccines; those that are related are usually minor reactions.

At times, Paardekooper adopts a cautious scientific voice, stressing that there are many possible explanations for these observations. But instead of exercising actual scientific caution himself, Paardekooper runs through what Paul V. Williams, an immunologist who reviewed his claims, characterized as “likely faulty data analysis” supplemented by “wild conjecture and conspiracy theories” to present a series of increasingly batcrap arguments as the only logical conclusions.

Misinformation experts believe that these arguments could also be compelling to many people who nurse doubts about vaccines but haven’t gone full anti-vaxxer yet. After all, it’s easier to sell someone on the claim that only a portion of the shots—that in truth have saved millions of lives and only cause notable adverse reactions in exceedingly rare cases—are dangerously toxic than it is to argue that they are uniformly malignant. And the embrace of this “bad batch” theory could hamper vaccination efforts and fuel general mistrust in governments and health-care systems—all as experts and institutions struggle to contain the spread of the highly infectious Omicron variant."

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #140 on: January 24, 2022, 01:12:59 PM »
I just looked up my lot #s.  45 died "from" the first batch, 19 "from" the second, but only 1 "from" the 3rd.  Clearly, those that it hasn't killed off are becoming invincible!

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Re: Minnesota
« Reply #141 on: January 24, 2022, 07:39:33 PM »
Jockey wears us all out.

You just keep standing with 4ever & rocket brain. You're really impressing people.