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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 13, 2022, 08:00:45 AM

But I guess this is what you get when you get your news from the Rio Times.

He doesn't actually get his news from the Rio Times, but that was the first link available when he smashed his forehead against his keyword looking for validation of his misinformation.

statnik

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 13, 2022, 08:00:45 AM
Nope. You have been wrong on this from the beginning and you continue to be.  Sorry.

But I guess this is what you get when you get your news from the Rio Times.

Why don't you tell me what's categorically incorrect with this paper, arguing some of the same points I am:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X

The Sultan

Quote from: statnik on January 13, 2022, 09:10:56 AM
Why don't you tell me what's categorically incorrect with this paper, arguing some of the same points I am:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X


It's from August and is projecting data based on modelling as far as I can tell.  It was approved for pediatric use and plenty of studies say it is safe.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

4everwarriors

Let's see here. We're gonna mandate a vaccine, which doesn't work against Omicron and Fr. Fauci pontificates those vaxed can still receive and transmit da virus.
Take your phobias and emotions out of the equation. Does mandating this vaccine make any logical sense? Particularly when past covid antibodies from having had the virus are not even factored in. To say nothing of unknown long term effects of having been vaxed. And, don't listen to FD Joe. He agrees with fookin' himself, hey?

#anti-mandate
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2022, 09:28:25 AM
Let's see here. We're gonna mandate a vaccine, which doesn't work against Omicron and Fr. Fauci pontificates those vaxed can still receive and transmit da virus.
Take your phobias and emotions out of the equation. Does mandating this vaccine make any logical sense? Particularly when past covid antibodies from having had the virus are not even factored in. To say nothing of unknown long term effects of having been vaxed. And, don't listen to FD Joe. He agrees with fookin' himself, hey?

#anti-mandate


We're "gonna mandate a vaccine?"  Since when?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: statnik on January 12, 2022, 11:37:43 PM
I hope you agree with a smoking ban in all public places.  That's more of a selfish behavior around others than not taking an experimental vaccine that has life-altering side effects that are underreported.
The main one being protecting you from death.

Please proceed.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 13, 2022, 09:37:24 AM

We're "gonna mandate a vaccine?"  Since when?

Should have 6 months ago.

As for 4elders comment, does he know that the NEXT variant isn't inhibited by the vaccine?  No, of course not.  He just likes to bloviate about mandates and personal choice.  He and the rest of the hogs still have their choices, and they have consistently decided that their irrational fears and beliefs supercede those of society.  As a result, they're being ostracized from the society they can't be bothered to care about.

It's the biggest self own I've ever seen.

tower912

9 months ago.  Agree with the rest.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

statnik

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 13, 2022, 09:37:24 AM

We're "gonna mandate a vaccine?"  Since when?

Workplaces mandating a vaccine is pretty broad reaching so don't act dumb on this statement.

statnik

Quote from: TSmith34 on January 13, 2022, 09:50:28 AM
The main one being protecting you from death.

Please proceed.

That's not the main side effect for young healthy individuals.

4everwarriors

Schools are mandating the vaccine, which of course, is the gold standard of stupidity, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: statnik on January 13, 2022, 10:07:26 AM
Workplaces mandating a vaccine is pretty broad reaching so don't act dumb on this statement.


He said "we're gonna mandate a vaccine."  Workplaces aren't "we" unless he is talking about his specific workplace.

A workplace can mandate a vaccine if it wants.  It may also choose not to do so, but place limitations on those who aren't vaccinated.  Perfectly acceptable in my eyes.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MUBurrow

We are fighting about whether or not to mandate vaccines everywhere because we have deemed it too inhumane to discuss mandating vaccination for hospital admission.  I'm not advocating either way, but if we mandated vaccination to be admitted to the hospital, we wouldn't need to debate whether to mandate it anywhere else.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2022, 10:11:27 AM
Schools are mandating the vaccine, which of course, is the gold standard of stupidity, hey?

Just like they mandate other vaccines.  There is always the option of keeping your kid home or sending them to private school.

statnik

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 13, 2022, 10:52:29 AM
Just like they mandate other vaccines.  There is always the option of keeping your kid home or sending them to private school.

Unlike COVID most of those required vaccines are equal or more critical illnesses to children than adults.  Pretty important difference.

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2022, 09:28:25 AM
Let's see here. We're gonna mandate a vaccine, which doesn't work against Omicron and Fr. Fauci pontificates those vaxed can still receive and transmit da virus.
Take your phobias and emotions out of the equation. Does mandating this vaccine make any logical sense? Particularly when past covid antibodies from having had the virus are not even factored in. To say nothing of unknown long term effects of having been vaxed. And, don't listen to FD Joe. He agrees with fookin' himself, hey?

#anti-mandate

"Medical professional"

Hards Alumni

Quote from: statnik on January 13, 2022, 10:59:25 AM
Unlike COVID most of those required vaccines are equal or more critical illnesses to children than adults.  Pretty important difference.

Not really, since the Covid vaccine isn't at all dangerous.

4everwarriors

#117
You've never heard of myocarditis, blood clots, etc. PM jes man 'cuz he's one of the board go to authorities on all things covid. He's a PA, ya know, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

statnik

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 13, 2022, 11:17:14 AM
Not really, since the Covid vaccine isn't at all dangerous.

The initial vaccine by itself may not, uncertain at this time but there's this concern that was recently brought out by the EU:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-11/repeat-booster-shots-risk-overloading-immune-system-ema-says

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2022, 11:27:49 AM
You've never heard of myocarditis, blood clots, etc. PM jes man 'cuz he's one if the board go to authorities on all things covid. He's a PA, ya know, hey?

I have heard.  I've also heard that myocarditis is a side effect of covid. 

You worry too much.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: statnik on January 13, 2022, 11:33:06 AM
The initial vaccine by itself may not, uncertain at this time but there's this concern that was recently brought out by the EU:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-11/repeat-booster-shots-risk-overloading-immune-system-ema-says

QuoteRepeat booster doses every four months could eventually weaken the immune response and tire out people, according to the European Medicines Agency. Instead, countries should leave more time between booster programs and tie them to the onset of the cold season in each hemisphere, following the blueprint set out by influenza vaccination strategies, the agency said. 

We don't boost every 4 months in the US, and "could eventually" is an important part of this quote.  But enjoy your fear porn, I guess!

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 13, 2022, 10:59:40 AM
"Medical professional"
Actually, "anti-vaxxer, pro drinking your own urine healthcare professional"
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2022, 11:27:49 AM
You've never heard of myocarditis, blood clots, etc. PM jes man 'cuz he's one if the board go to authorities on all things covid. He's a PA, ya know, hey?

Aww. Did you get your fee fees hurt?

statnik

Quote from: TSmith34 on January 13, 2022, 12:51:37 PM
Actually, "anti-vaxxer, pro drinking your own urine healthcare professional"

The fact that you're actually bringing up drinking your own urine as something you think these anti-mandate 'conspiracy theorists' buy into shows how you've been played.  Christopher Key is on his own if he actually believes this will be common among those rightfully skeptical of the vaccine.

TSmith34, Inc.

Please try to keep up
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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