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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 09, 2021, 09:05:40 AM
Good news. Hopefully Forward Madison will have something resembling a normal season.

Or become the Hart Park Freights....

BrewCity83

Milwaukee County Rec Dept just cancelled its entire summer softball season.
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The Sultan

Quote from: BrewCity83 on February 09, 2021, 05:12:09 PM
Milwaukee County Rec Dept just cancelled its entire summer softball season.

Really?  That seems like an overreaction.
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4everwarriors

Keep on livin' in yo hidey-hole, dumb chits, hey?
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 09, 2021, 05:25:32 PM
Really?  That seems like an overreaction.


That does seem like a lot. I wonder if they are concerned about the likelihood that we won't have herd immunity until this fall at the earliest.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 09, 2021, 06:18:39 PM

That does seem like a lot. I wonder if they are concerned about the likelihood that we won't have herd immunity until this fall at the earliest.

For outdoor sports?  Where the risk of transmission is near zero (UW study)?

Keep up the fear porn, I'm getting close.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 09, 2021, 07:07:37 PM
For outdoor sports?  Where the risk of transmission is near zero (UW study)?

Keep up the fear porn, I'm getting close.


I just raised it as a question. I started by saying that it does seem like a lot.

The Sultan

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 09, 2021, 06:18:39 PM

That does seem like a lot. I wonder if they are concerned about the likelihood that we won't have herd immunity until this fall at the earliest.

Yeah don't think they are basing it on anything scientific. Seems like a complete overreaction.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocky_warrior

#2583
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 09, 2021, 08:29:57 PM
Yeah don't think they are basing it on anything scientific. Seems like a complete overreaction.

It seems as simple as a municipality not wanting to take on the liability of someone contracting/dying of covid for what is supposed to be "recreation".  Lawyers eat that kind of stuff for lunch.  That'd be my guess.

edit: that said, BC83 may have received a private email or something about it, but I don't see it posted to their webpage or social media yet.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 09, 2021, 08:38:14 PM
It seems as simple as a municipality not wanting to take on the liability of someone contracting/dying of covid for what is supposed to be "recreation".  Lawyers eat that kind of stuff for lunch.  That'd be my guess.

edit: that said, BC83 may have received a private email or something about it, but I don't see it posted to their webpage or social media yet.

Governmental immunity, kin.   

rocky_warrior


MUfan12

I bet they're canceling to try and stop all those people from going to bars after games.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 10, 2021, 12:16:19 AM
Not quite that simple, kin.

In Wisconsin it is.  $750k max liability

The Sultan

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 10, 2021, 07:55:50 AM
In Wisconsin it is.  $750k max liability


Two questions...

Is that $750k per incident?  If so, it could grow larger.

Do municipalities insure against this liability?  If so, the insurance company could be telling them to cancel this year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocky_warrior

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 10, 2021, 07:55:50 AM
In Wisconsin it is.  $750k max liability

Liability != Immunity

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 10, 2021, 08:00:24 AM
Do municipalities insure against this liability?  If so, the insurance company could be telling them to cancel this year.

Most *should* carry liability insurance, and if the insurer didn't already excluded pandemic coverage after sars, they likely updated the policies this year to specifically excluded them.

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 10, 2021, 07:55:50 AM
In Wisconsin it is.  $750k max liability

What?  The damages cap in Wisconsin for claims against governmental entities is $50,000 per claimant, unless the claim arises out of the municipality's vehicle (snow plows, squad cars, etc.) where it increases to $250,000 per claimant.  See Wis. Stat. Sec. 893.80 and 345.05.
Ludum habemus.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on February 10, 2021, 11:39:42 AM
What?  The damages cap in Wisconsin for claims against governmental entities is $50,000 per claimant, unless the claim arises out of the municipality's vehicle (snow plows, squad cars, etc.) where it increases to $250,000 per claimant.  See Wis. Stat. Sec. 893.80 and 345.05.

Thanks for the correction, Sir.

Medical malpractice is capped at $750k per claim for state employed (UW Health) doctors.

BrewCity83

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 09, 2021, 08:38:14 PM
It seems as simple as a municipality not wanting to take on the liability of someone contracting/dying of covid for what is supposed to be "recreation".  Lawyers eat that kind of stuff for lunch.  That'd be my guess.

edit: that said, BC83 may have received a private email or something about it, but I don't see it posted to their webpage or social media yet.

The Rec Department posted it on their Facebook page Monday morning.

Milwaukee County Parks Organized Sports
February 8 at 10:39 AM
It comes with great disappointment once again to announce we will not be offering the spring/summer softball league 2021 season due to the continued fluid situation with COVID-19. We are hoping that we will be able to have fall sports leagues starting in August. Stay tuned for confirmation on the fall enrollment status.
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Hards Alumni

It appears that we finally have the virus under control here in Wisconsin.  Almost two weeks since we've had a day with over 1,000 new infections, and trending downwards.  Hopefully this extreme cold snap has managed to tamp down the spread even more!  Lower numbers will allow us to contact trace better, and hopefully maintain lower spread.  Marry that with Wisconsin having an incredible vaccination rate, and I think it's fair to say that while it took a long time, and a rough Nov/Dec, Wisconsin finally has its shit together.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 24, 2021, 03:10:34 PM
It appears that we finally have the virus under control here in Wisconsin.  Almost two weeks since we've had a day with over 1,000 new infections, and trending downwards.  Hopefully this extreme cold snap has managed to tamp down the spread even more!  Lower numbers will allow us to contact trace better, and hopefully maintain lower spread.  Marry that with Wisconsin having an incredible vaccination rate, and I think it's fair to say that while it took a long time, and a rough Nov/Dec, Wisconsin finally has its shit together.

👏👏

mu_hilltopper

Honestly, I think it's less getting our act together and more .. COVID is running out of dry timber.   

561k positive tests to date .. probably more like 1.5m people have had it and didn't get tested, plus another 1.2m have had the vaccine .. that's 47% who COVID can't touch.

Add in half+ the population who are staying at home, masking up, doing the right thing .. there's just not very many people COVID can easily infect.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 24, 2021, 08:03:35 PM
Honestly, I think it's less getting our act together and more .. COVID is running out of dry timber.   

561k positive tests to date .. probably more like 1.5m people have had it and didn't get tested, plus another 1.2m have had the vaccine .. that's 47% who COVID can't touch.

Add in half+ the population who are staying at home, masking up, doing the right thing .. there's just not very many people COVID can easily infect.


I think you are right. The numbers have been going down throughout the country, and particularly in the upper Midwest. When I see even North Dakota's numbers going down, it has to be more than just "getting our act together."

Either way, it's great to see the numbers going down. In Wisconsin, North Dakota, Minnesota, and throughout the country.

The Sultan

I think people have stopped gathering in groups since Christmas. Pretty simple explanation IMO.
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rocket surgeon

  "Add in half+ the population who are staying at home, masking up, doing the right thing .. there's just not very many people COVID can easily infect."

  with all due respect hill, staying at home & masking up? unless one is very compromised, just delaying the inevitable. someone has to go out sometime.  one could  asymptomatically carry it back to the hive and all bets are off.  masks are not a guarantee.  zinc, vitamin c, vitamin d, exercise, good diet, vaccine
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