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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Marquette Fan on January 27, 2021, 09:07:24 PM
I think it will as it's the only thing getting a number of people to wear masks now.  I'm not surprised this is happening but very upset about it.  At least our school district has its own mask rule - I'm not one who could ever home school but no way in heck am I sending my kids to a school if they don't require masks be worn.

It'll be the easiest way to spot a person I'm willing to go the extra mile for.  No mask, sorry, can't help you.

It's a really stupid repeal, because as I've mentioned before, more than half the state was just ignoring it anyway.

cheebs09

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 28, 2021, 06:10:20 AM
It'll be the easiest way to spot a person I'm willing to go the extra mile for.  No mask, sorry, can't help you.

It's a really stupid repeal, because as I've mentioned before, more than half the state was just ignoring it anyway.

Your last line makes me hopeful this won't be a huge negative impact. The people who wear masks will keep doing so, and those that don't never really did.

Will stores be able to still enforce mask policies?

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: cheebs09 on January 28, 2021, 06:49:27 AM

Will stores be able to still enforce mask policies?

Yes.  No shoes, no shirt, no service.

Also, municipalities can enforce as well.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 28, 2021, 07:13:10 AM
Yes.  No shoes, no shirt, no service.

Also, municipalities can enforce as well.

Correct.  Dane County will still have it for sure.  Also, any private business can enforce almost any policy they choose.

The Sultan

Really dumb political theatre at the worst time. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

injuryBug

Quote from: Marquette Fan on January 27, 2021, 09:07:24 PM
I think it will as it's the only thing getting a number of people to wear masks now.  I'm not surprised this is happening but very upset about it.  At least our school district has its own mask rule - I'm not one who could ever home school but no way in heck am I sending my kids to a school if they don't require masks be worn.

my kids district as well.  Glad i just found out i am part of group 1b for being a coach and part time employee of the district.  will gladly wear my mask even after i get the vaccine.  Things are moving in the right direction so dumb to mess things up now

Jockey

Quote from: injuryBug on January 28, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
my kids district as well.  Glad i just found out i am part of group 1b for being a coach and part time employee of the district.  will gladly wear my mask even after i get the vaccine.  Things are moving in the right direction so dumb to mess things up now

Well, being in the 1b group doesn't sound so hot when there is no vaccine available. I called the clinic yesterday - their response was "don't call us, we'll call you".

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on January 28, 2021, 12:06:44 PM
Well, being in the 1b group doesn't sound so hot when there is no vaccine available. I called the clinic yesterday - their response was "don't call us, we'll call you".


What clinic do you go to?  I have seen reports of shortages, but none of the health systems where I live have that policy. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 28, 2021, 12:11:45 PM

What clinic do you go to?  I have seen reports of shortages, but none of the health systems where I live have that policy.

The clinic is part of Ascension in Racine. They say they will call when vaccine is available.

Is there vaccine available in your area? I saw the percentages yesterday and Wisconsin is next to last in the Midwest as far as administering the vaccine. So it would seem that Racine isn't the only problem area?

Warriors4ever

'Don't call us we'll call you' has been the response of my health system and several others in the Chicago area, though a couple have now just started their reach out. Rush is the only one I am aware of that started a couple weeks ago.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on January 28, 2021, 12:36:04 PM
The clinic is part of Ascension in Racine. They say they will call when vaccine is available.

Is there vaccine available in your area? I saw the percentages yesterday and Wisconsin is next to last in the Midwest as far as administering the vaccine. So it would seem that Racine isn't the only problem area?


My health system has online sign up and I know multiple people who have taken advantage of it.  They only open slots as they have the ability to fill them though.

I am not disputing your story, I am just surprised at the way they are handling it.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GooooMarquette

This review of CDC data ranks states based on the % of doses received that have been administered. ND leads the pack, having administered almost 87% of the doses it has received. Wisconsin is 49th, having administered about 42.5%.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html

Lotta states with work to do, including several here in the Midwest, with IL (48.2%) and MN (47.7%) not a whole lot better than WI.

The Sultan

Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 28, 2021, 01:09:01 PM
This review of CDC data ranks states based on the % of doses received that have been administered. ND leads the pack, having administered almost 87% of the doses it has received. Wisconsin is 49th, having administered about 42.5%.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html

Lotta states with work to do, including several here in the Midwest, with IL (48.2%) and MN (47.7%) not a whole lot better than WI.


Wisconsin hasn't seen the chaos that you have seen from other states.  Yeah ultimately they have to get shots into arms, but some deliberate planning isn't a bad thing.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Warriors4ever

FBM, I am in two different health systems in the Chicago area, neither is signing anyone up for anything right now, they just tell people to keep checking the app and they will post info about signing up there. A couple others I am aware of just started reaching out to their 1b people  about scheduling in the last day or two. But even they are telling their patients that they will be in touch when it's their turn to schedule, not giving them some kind of list to be on.

The Sultan

When I say "online sign up," I mean for specific appointments where doses are administrated.  Not simply a wait list.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

I had heard Froedtert was starting to get people in the over 65 group but Ascension has not gotten to that point yet.

The Sultan

My parents are with SSM Health in Madison and they got their shots yesterday.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 28, 2021, 01:12:36 PM

Wisconsin hasn't seen the chaos that you have seen from other states.  Yeah ultimately they have to get shots into arms, but some deliberate planning isn't a bad thing.



I absolutely agree that planning is good and vaccine free-for-alls are bad.

Still, I have to wonder how much of the lag is 'planning', and how much is confusion and paralysis. Same holds true for most of the states near the bottom.

Warriors4ever

I think people can cope better if they know there is some kind of plan, even if it doesn't have specific dates.  I think communication from one of my systems has been woeful, I can't figure out if they're planning to offer it to their patients or not, frankly, and that was from one general email where they assured everyone how concerned they are. Their providers are telling people to go to drugstores and supermarkets. The other system has at least been telling people that they are planning regional clinics, but aren't there yet.

injuryBug

I got an email from the district with a link to submit a survey. then I got an email reply back saying i would get a call once things are ready for my group.  So i did sort of get the dont call us we will call you but it makes sense.  The health care providers probably get flooded with calls from people daily asking if they can get the vaccine.  March 1 is when my group is supposed to start getting the vaccine.  The survey needs to be completed by Feb 3.  That gives them a month to get organized.  At this point it sounds organized to me

Warriors4ever

Rush did something similar. I haven't seen that from my own two systems, nor have any of my friends reported that.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 28, 2021, 01:33:17 PM
I think people can cope better if they know there is some kind of plan, even if it doesn't have specific dates.  I think communication from one of my systems has been woeful, I can't figure out if they're planning to offer it to their patients or not, frankly, and that was from one general email where they assured everyone how concerned they are. Their providers are telling people to go to drugstores and supermarkets. The other system has at least been telling people that they are planning regional clinics, but aren't there yet.


I agree that predictability and communication is important. I haven't felt the frustration firsthand yet, because I am at the very back of the line so I don't expect a shot until summer. If I get it earlier, I will consider it a bonus.

BrewCity83

Even though I've said I'm not in a hurry to get jabbed, that right now I'm content to let the high risk/elderly get the first shots, that will change when I'm denied the chance to do something I want to do without showing proof of vaccination.  I don't know if it's going to be air travel, going to a Brewers game, Summerfest, or a concert, but I suspect these things may start requiring proof of inoculation at some point.
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Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 28, 2021, 12:49:44 PM

My health system has online sign up and I know multiple people who have taken advantage of it.  They only open slots as they have the ability to fill them though.

I am not disputing your story, I am just surprised at the way they are handling it.

This is from the Ascension Medical Group - Wisconsin website:

"AMG is in the process of reviewing medical records for all existing patients and contacting all patients who fit the above criteria within Phase 1B to schedule vaccine appointments. Please do not call our hospitals or clinics regarding vaccinations, as vaccines are limited at this time, and AMG will reach out directly to patients who are eligible for the vaccine."


I called anyway and was told - we'll call you.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Jockey on January 28, 2021, 04:16:24 PM
This is from the Ascension Medical Group - Wisconsin website:

"AMG is in the process of reviewing medical records for all existing patients and contacting all patients who fit the above criteria within Phase 1B to schedule vaccine appointments. Please do not call our hospitals or clinics regarding vaccinations, as vaccines are limited at this time, and AMG will reach out directly to patients who are eligible for the vaccine."


I called anyway and was told - we'll call you.

I heard that they are bumping everyone that calls in to the bottom of the list.

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