2020 Coaching Carousel

[The Sultan]

The University of Texas' problem is that they have a higher view of themselves than almost everyone outside of Texas has of them.  They're not the epicenter of football.  They aren't a basketball power.

They are reaping what they sowed.  By strong arming themselves in the Big 12 for the sake of more money, they drove away four good schools who had other options and replaced them with schools that were desperate for a P5 lifeline.  So they've weakened the brand of the conference, and themselves in the process.

But do you think they are self-reflective enough to realize this?  Oh no.  They are not.  They will keep doing what they do and get frustrated when the results don't work.

[MU82]

The University of Texas' problem is that they have a higher view of themselves than almost everyone outside of Texas has of them.  They're not the epicenter of football.  They aren't a basketball power.

They are reaping what they sowed.  By strong arming themselves in the Big 12 for the sake of more money, they drove away four good schools who had other options and replaced them with schools that were desperate for a P5 lifeline.  So they've weakened the brand of the conference, and themselves in the process.

But do you think they are self-reflective enough to realize this?  Oh no.  They are not.  They will keep doing what they do and get frustrated when the results don't work.

I like this take.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Yeah. This numbers are pretty shocking. The wbb head coach at Penn State made more than Wojo? That is surprising.

I read it as $3.5M over 5 years not per year.

[DFW HOYA]

The University of Texas' problem is that they have a higher view of themselves than almost everyone outside of Texas has of them. 

Notre Dame is altogether humble compared to the Longhorns.

[muguru]

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
·
4m
Wake Forest has parted ways with Danny Manning, sources told @Stadium
.

[The Sultan]

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
·
4m
Wake Forest has parted ways with Danny Manning, sources told @Stadium
.

Whoa.  That came out of nowhere.

[muguru]

Whoa.  That came out of nowhere.

This is probably why it took this long...who the unnatural carnal knowledge gives a buyout like this??

Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
·
7m
Source confirms that Wake Forest has parted ways with Danny Manning.

Manning is owed over $15 million dollars as part of his buyout.

[brewcity77]

That's a lot to spend to send a guy away. Be interesting to see what their search looks like.

[Hards Alumni]

This is probably why it took this long...who the unnatural carnal knowledge gives a buyout like this??

Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
·
7m
Source confirms that Wake Forest has parted ways with Danny Manning.

Manning is owed over $15 million dollars as part of his buyout.

holy smokes!

[GooooMarquette]

This is probably why it took this long...who the unnatural carnal knowledge gives a buyout like this??

Jon Rothstein
@JonRothstein
·
7m
Source confirms that Wake Forest has parted ways with Danny Manning.

Manning is owed over $15 million dollars as part of his buyout.

Yeah, with Manning's record, he probably would have been gone long ago if it wasn't for that insane buyout.

One winning season in six years; never finished higher than 10th in a 16-team conference; overall record of 78-111 and conference record of 30-80. All for a mere $2M/year.

Makes Dave Leitao look like a bargain....

[WarriorPride68]

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
·
4m
Wake Forest has parted ways with Danny Manning, sources told @Stadium
.

Damnit! Wojo back to Carolina

[muguru]

That's a lot to spend to send a guy away. Be interesting to see what their search looks like.

I think the answer is in here...

Kevin Sweeney
@CBB_Central
·
20m
Wake Forest just hired a search firm. Wes Miller's parents are trustees at Wake and his dad's name is on the practice facility. Ryan Odom's dad coached Wake.

[shoothoops]

That's a lot to spend to send a guy away. Be interesting to see what their search looks like.

Some early names include:

Wes Miller, at NC Greensboro, Ryan Odom at UMBC, Pat Kelsey at Winthrop, Steve Forbes at East Tennessee St., Earl Grant at College of Charleston, among others.

[brewcity77]

Odom I could see. Hiring Wes Miller seems like a questionable choice. Would be a poor look when he leaves for a conference rival just up Tobacco Road as soon as Roy retires.

[MU82]

Buyouts = just about meaningless.

If a school wants out badly enough, it will find a way.

And we all know that "just about" can be removed from the equation when it comes to coaches leaving one school for another.

The main concession I'll make to the above is that buyouts aren't meaningless to the coach. Manning is damn happy he'll get $15 million for sitting on his arse. The coach gets the best of both worlds: nearly total free agency on the high end, and protection against his own incompetence on the low end.

[The Sultan]

I think the answer is in here...

Kevin Sweeney
@CBB_Central
·
20m
Wake Forest just hired a search firm. Wes Miller's parents are trustees at Wake and his dad's name is on the practice facility. Ryan Odom's dad coached Wake.

Looks like he is a former Trustee because he is not currently on their Board list.  Which is good if that's why they want to hire since it lessens the conflicts of interest.  Doesn't eliminate them however.

[genious expert]

https://twitter.com/coachingchanges/status/1254099334951571456?s=21

Names for Wake Forest targets & more to come/cross-off as we hear them.
Wes Miller
Steve Forbes
Pat Kelsey
Ryan Odom
Shaka Smart
Steve Wojciechowski
Mark Prosser
LaVall Jordan
Eric Konkol

Dark Horse
Kelvin Sampson
John Beilein

[Nukem2]

https://twitter.com/coachingchanges/status/1254099334951571456?s=21

Names for Wake Forest targets & more to come/cross-off as we hear them.
Wes Miller
Steve Forbes
Pat Kelsey
Ryan Odom
Shaka Smart
Steve Wojciechowski
Mark Prosser
LaVall Jordan
Eric Konkol

Dark Horse
Kelvin Sampson
John Beilein

Beilein is an interesting possibility.

[Billy Hoyle]

I think the answer is in here...

Kevin Sweeney
@CBB_Central
·
20m
Wake Forest just hired a search firm. Wes Miller's parents are trustees at Wake and his dad's name is on the practice facility. Ryan Odom's dad coached Wake.

Search firms are such a waste of money. Look at Todd Turner's as a perfect example and when they did at Pitt. With all of the high quality candidates in the region it's a waste of money.

Considering Odom's success and his dad's standing at Wake I could see him being the early favorite.

[muguru]

Beilein is an interesting possibility.

Doubt they can afford him after paying Manning's insane buyout

[Billy Hoyle]

Doubt they can afford him after paying Manning's insane buyout

Would he command much considering his buyout from Cleveland?

[wadesworld]

Would he command much considering his buyout from Cleveland?

Maybe MU should offer him a volunteer assistant position. "Hey John, you're getting paid more from Cleveland than Wojo is from us. Want to come give Wojo a hand for free? You don't really need any more than you already make."

[Nukem2]

Would he command much considering his buyout from Cleveland?

Don't know that he got much of a buyout from the cavs as opposed to a probable modest settlement for the 19-20 season.

[4everwarriors]

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops
·
4m
Wake Forest has parted ways with Danny Manning, sources told @Stadium
.

Heer's hour chance, aina?

[The Sultan]

Search firms are such a waste of money. Look at Todd Turner's as a perfect example and when they did at Pitt. With all of the high quality candidates in the region it's a waste of money.

Considering Odom's success and his dad's standing at Wake I could see him being the early favorite.

Search firms can be used for much more than the "search" part of the hiring process.  Just because one school f*cked up their search with a firm, doesn't mean they don't add value.