If Wojo left the program today...

[Johnny B]

This thread is the scoop I'm here for. Excellent responses to this false narrative that MU has an entitled, unrealistic fan base.

It's the same arguments over and over again all season.

[muguru]

Yup. And I know we're on our way when I don't hear about how every team we play is a "bad matchup" for MU.

Correct...shouldn't it be about MU being a bad match up for them against every team they play?? Isn't that what we should want other teams's fans to think/feel, like so many MU fans do with us?? Shouldn't it be about getting to the point that you feel you have a LEGIT chance to compete for a conference title almost every year(that doesn't mean you will win it every year)?? Shouldn't it be about when you get a little taste of success(ie being ranked or whatever), that you sustain it for a period of time, rather then lose it right away?? Shouldn't it mostly be about giving your fans reason for hope that after 6 years your program isn't just a "fart in the wind" to most other fans nationally??

[MUBBau]

It hardly falls all on the fans.  It CAN and is one factor.

MU fans are really good, they can also get out of whack.  I would say that about MKE fans in general.  Wait until the sucks don't win the title this year...oh the fun that will be.

MU hardly puts basketball at the center of everything...where is that even coming from?

Wow, are you 10 years old?

[Cheeks]

Marquette, where we build shrines to the players who quit on the team and boo the people that are working hard for the team

Yup...it is amazing

[Cheeks]

BUT that year of the famed Davidson miracle we went 14-4 in the toughest conference in the NCAA and won a share of the regular season title.  So it wasn't some miraculous run to the E8, and that game was water finding its level more than anything.

More like Davidson pissing themselves....but the point is that despite being 14-4 it took a miracle to win that first round game...one team who was near the of the nation in FT shooting shot horrendously for them, coughed up a major turnover, and of course we made some great shots...what you do in the regular season means not much in the tournament.   UMBC UVA

[NickelDimer]

More like Davidson pissing themselves....but the point is that despite being 14-4 it took a miracle to win that first round game...one team who was near the of the nation in FT shooting shot horrendously for them, coughed up a major turnover, and of course we made some great shots...what you do in the regular season means not much in the tournament.   UMBC UVA

Obvious biases are obvious

[The Lens]

Administration will take notice much faster at empty seats than booing

It would be nice if we heard ANYTHING from the administration.  Two starters walkout the door following an utter collapse to end the season and no one above Wojo has a comment.  That shows an indifference to the fans, alums, donors and STH's.   

[The Lens]

More like Davidson pissing themselves....but the point is that despite being 14-4 it took a miracle to win that first round game...one team who was near the of the nation in FT shooting shot horrendously for them, coughed up a major turnover, and of course we made some great shots...what you do in the regular season means not much in the tournament.   UMBC UVA

And if Davidson didn't "piss themselves" we'd still have a regular season co-championship banner to hang.  And we had two S16s the two years before.  Buzz went into Davidson with house money.  He could afford the crapshoot.

[LAZER]

What are we going to learn in the next 30 days that we haven't already learned? Sure I'd love to see us end with a 7 game win streak and E8 run, but it's really unlikely. What is likely is that we end right between the worst and the best predictions.

Let's say they win 3 of the next 4, win one or maybe two in NYC, and then win one tournament game and lose one.  I think that falls in line with everybody's expectations heading into the season.   And then ask yourself, how many programs are firing a coach after making the tourney 3/4 years (with decent seeds) and a solid conference record?

[5DollarPitcher]

It would be nice if we heard ANYTHING from the administration.  Two starters walkout the door following an utter collapse to end the season and no one above Wojo has a comment.  That shows an indifference to the fans, alums, donors and STH's.   

They are indifferent. Wojo serves pancakes at midnight to students during Finals Week in the AMU. He and Lovell make for a nice front cover of MU Magazine. He goes to Church and has kids and lives in the North Shore and plays golf with the BOT. That's the stuff they care about. Not winning basketball games, hanging banners, etc.

[jesmu84]

So, I hope this isn't controversial, but I think the tangent of this thread was all because someone asked the fans not to boo when we have a highly ranked recruit in the arena.

Can we agree that's a bad idea?

[Cheeks]

This thread is the scoop I'm here for. Excellent responses to this false narrative that MU has an entitled, unrealistic fan base.

I wonder why some of our former coaches said that then.  Weird

[NickelDimer]

So, I hope this isn't controversial, but I think the tangent of this thread was all because someone asked the fans not to boo when we have a highly ranked recruit in the arena.

Can we agree that's a bad idea?

Agree. It's not something I'd do or be comfortable doing regardless of recruits being there or not.

[21rooster]

They are indifferent. Wojo serves pancakes at midnight to students during Finals Week in the AMU. He and Lovell make for a nice front cover of MU Magazine. He goes to Church and has kids and lives in the North Shore and plays golf with the BOT. That's the stuff they care about. Not winning basketball games, hanging banners, etc.

They obviously care about winning basketball games and hanging banners - I don't think many university presidents tweet more about their basketball teams than ours.  But it is my guess that they would trade 3 of four NCAA tourney appearances and no Chicago Tribune appearances for non-sports-related allegations over NCAA appearances every year with less regard for the university's reputation.  It's actually pretty remarkable (knock on wood) that there have been zero reports of major off-the-court issues over six years under Wojo.  That probably holds a lot more weight for the administration than it does for the casual fan. 

[keefe]

I believe it was Vander Blue who loved the fact that opponents would look at the schedule and mutter to themselves on seeing Marquette, "Sh1t...we are playing those guys..."

Now, those same opponents exclaim, "Sh1t! We are playing those guys!"

Thanks, Wojo. Ending opponent losing streaks six years running

[jesmu84]

I believe it was Vander Blue who loved the fact that opponents would look at the schedule and mutter to themselves on seeing Marquette, "Sh1t...we are playing those guys..."

Now, those same opponents exclaim, "Sh1t! We are playing those guys!"

Well statements like this - not based on facts - don't help anyone.

Thanks, Wojo. Ending opponent losing streaks six years running

[Cheeks]

It would be nice if we heard ANYTHING from the administration.  Two starters walkout the door following an utter collapse to end the season and no one above Wojo has a comment.  That shows an indifference to the fans, alums, donors and STH's.   

Quirky thing called privacy laws

[Cheeks]

Obvious biases are obvious

Just repeating what their fanbase said and some journalists.  Also what every one of our fans would have said if we lost or if the other team was ND, Wisconsin....the word choke would be out in nanoseconds.   Thrilled we won, went crazy when we did...glad they pissed themselves and we took advantage of it.

[RJax55]

So, I hope this isn't controversial, but I think the tangent of this thread was all because someone asked the fans not to boo when we have a highly ranked recruit in the arena.

Can we agree that's a bad idea?

Again, has anyone here suggested that fans do so?

[NickelDimer]

Just repeating what their fanbase said and some journalists.  Also what every one of our fans would have said if we lost or if the other team was ND, Wisconsin....the word choke would be out in nanoseconds.   Thrilled we won, went crazy when we did...glad they pissed themselves and we took advantage of it.

Words you'd never utter if that team was coached by someone other than Buzz

[Cheeks]

So, I hope this isn't controversial, but I think the tangent of this thread was all because someone asked the fans not to boo when we have a highly ranked recruit in the arena.

Can we agree that's a bad idea?

How else can the aggrieved parties of the injustice of these basketball atrocities be able to show their discontent?

Yes, it a horrible idea which is why some will do it anyway.

[Pakuni]

It would be nice if we heard ANYTHING from the administration.  Two starters walkout the door following an utter collapse to end the season and no one above Wojo has a comment.  That shows an indifference to the fans, alums, donors and STH's.   

You want the university president issuing public statements on the transfer of a couple of basketball players?
Oh, boy.
Seriously, has this ever happened anywhere?

[4everwarriors]

Any y'all got bigger fish ta fry, hey?

[5DollarPitcher]

Any y'all got bigger fish ta fry, hey?

Fish Fry is on Friday

[rocky_warrior]

Again, has anyone here suggested that fans do so?

I haven't seen anyone encourage booing (well, maybe a couple wacko posters in other threads), but certainly there has been reports of booing.  I think the idea to was spread the message that it's stoopid, a big recruit will be in the arena, and you shouldn't do it.  Spread it around...