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GooooMarquette

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on July 11, 2020, 06:16:41 AM
This puts us nearly back at prior peak.

https://twitter.com/scottgottliebmd/status/1281786741029052418?s=21


So much for the belief by some that the current wave wouldn't lead to hospitalizations because it was 'mostly young people.' Young people can get sick from COVID; young people can spread COVID to older and more vulnerable people. Put it together, and this is what you get.

GooooMarquette

For those who said we could 'never go back' once we started reopening, we now have two states that reopened WAY too early considering reversals.

Warnings of further restrictions in Texas and Georgia as U.S. cases continue record climbs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/11/world/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage#link-a93b154

In Texas, which reported record numbers of daily cases four times this week, Gov. Greg Abbott signaled the possibility of a new economic "lockdown" if the state cannot curtail the caseloads and hospitalizations that have made it one of the country's worst hot spots in the pandemic.

Mr. Abbott, a Republican, predicted in a televised interview that "things will get worse" and said that he might take steps even more drastic than a statewide face-mask requirement that has angered members of his party.


....

In Georgia, which reported more than 4,000 new cases on Friday, Atlanta officials said they were preparing to shift back to "Phase 1" guidelines, which call for residents to largely stay at home. Most of Georgia's cases have been concentrated in the counties making up the Atlanta metropolitan area.

Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms of Atlanta, who said she had tested positive for the coronavirus this week, issued a mask mandate in the city on Wednesday and added further limits on large gatherings.

Georgia's growing concerns were also underscored when Gov. Brian Kemp said that the state was again transforming a convention center in Atlanta into a makeshift medical center as hospitals were filling with patients.


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Because science predicted this....

Hards Alumni

Quote from: GooooMarquette on July 11, 2020, 08:45:30 AM

So much for the belief by some that the current wave wouldn't lead to hospitalizations because it was 'mostly young people.' Young people can get sick from COVID; young people can spread COVID to older and more vulnerable people. Put it together, and this is what you get.

Right, and again, this is a messaging problem.  We heard ad nauseum that, "covid only really affects old people".  DANGEROUS.  The media and our political leaders ran with that.  So naturally... we repeat it enough that it gets taken out of context.  And now we have a ton of 'young people' who didn't think covid was dangerous for them in the hospital.

We are a nation of 'experts' that can only be bothered to read the headline.  We are a nation of hot takes all rushing to an answer.  We have lost the ability to make grounded, deliberate decisions.  Everyone has to be FIRST!


pbiflyer


And so it begins:

Quote:
The large refrigerated trailer suddenly appeared one day near the loading dock at HCA Healthcare Northwest, taking some on staff by surprise. But soon its purpose became clear.

When a patient died last week in the hospital's intensive care unit — nearly full these days of critically ill COVID-19 patients — the body was packed in ice and moved into the trailer. The hospital's morgue was full. HCA officials confirmed the trailer was used as temporary storage until the body could be picked up by a funeral home.
As other hospitals have or prepare to follow suit, there is a stark new reality in Houston.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/As-COVID-19-continues-to-slam-Houston-the-death-15400462.php


Quote:
The increase in ambulance diversions, coupled with the spike in patients being held indefinitely in emergency rooms, are the latest indicators that Houston hospitals are straining to keep up with a surge of new coronavirus patients. ProPublica and NBC News have previously reported that a public hospital in Houston ran out of a medication to treat COVID-19 patients and that a spike in at-home deaths from cardiac arrest suggests that the death toll from the coronavirus may be higher than official statistics show.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/all-hospitals-are-full-houston-overwhelmed-icus-leave-covid-19-n1233430

Quote:
Among the recent deaths were a Northeast Baptist Hospital patient in San Antonio who was in his 30s, a Grand Prairie man in his 40s, a Garland woman in her 60s who had no underlying conditions, a 73-year-old man who was about to go homefrom a prison rehabilitation program and a baby boy in Corpus Christi who wasn't 6 months old yet.

Their deaths come as counties prepare for a surge in fatalities, some by requesting trailers to expand their hospital and county morgue capacities.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/texas-coronavirus-deaths-morgues-capacity/

Quote:
PHOENIX — Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego says one Abrazo location is nearing capacity in its morgue and may be requesting refrigerated trucks. The Maricopa County Medical Examiner's office is also reportedly near capacity.

https://www.abc15.com/news/coronavirus/phoenix-mayor-abrazo-nearly-out-of-morgue-space-may-be-requesting-refrigerated-trucks

As expected deaths are rising in hotspots and will start to get exponential in a couple of weeks,.


Frenns Liquor Depot

Sadly we've seen this movie already.  I am hopefully the improvements in treatment make it better than last time and the hospitals don't break.  A political risk analyst that I follow posted this churchill quote yesterday...seems appropriate.

The United States can always be relied upon to do the right thing — having first exhausted all possible alternatives.

Jockey

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on July 11, 2020, 09:44:28 AM
Sadly we've seen this movie already.  I am hopefully the improvements in treatment make it better than last time and the hospitals don't break.  A political risk analyst that I follow posted this churchill quote yesterday...seems appropriate.

The United States can always be relied upon to do the right thing — having first exhausted all possible alternatives.

Except that when Churchill said this, there had never been a prez trump. At this point in time, that statement no longer applies.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: pbiflyer on July 11, 2020, 09:35:48 AM
And so it begins:

Quote:
The large refrigerated trailer suddenly appeared one day near the loading dock at HCA Healthcare Northwest, taking some on staff by surprise. But soon its purpose became clear.

When a patient died last week in the hospital's intensive care unit — nearly full these days of critically ill COVID-19 patients — the body was packed in ice and moved into the trailer. The hospital's morgue was full. HCA officials confirmed the trailer was used as temporary storage until the body could be picked up by a funeral home.
As other hospitals have or prepare to follow suit, there is a stark new reality in Houston.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/As-COVID-19-continues-to-slam-Houston-the-death-15400462.php


Quote:
The increase in ambulance diversions, coupled with the spike in patients being held indefinitely in emergency rooms, are the latest indicators that Houston hospitals are straining to keep up with a surge of new coronavirus patients. ProPublica and NBC News have previously reported that a public hospital in Houston ran out of a medication to treat COVID-19 patients and that a spike in at-home deaths from cardiac arrest suggests that the death toll from the coronavirus may be higher than official statistics show.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/all-hospitals-are-full-houston-overwhelmed-icus-leave-covid-19-n1233430

Quote:
Among the recent deaths were a Northeast Baptist Hospital patient in San Antonio who was in his 30s, a Grand Prairie man in his 40s, a Garland woman in her 60s who had no underlying conditions, a 73-year-old man who was about to go homefrom a prison rehabilitation program and a baby boy in Corpus Christi who wasn't 6 months old yet.

Their deaths come as counties prepare for a surge in fatalities, some by requesting trailers to expand their hospital and county morgue capacities.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/10/texas-coronavirus-deaths-morgues-capacity/

Quote:
PHOENIX — Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego says one Abrazo location is nearing capacity in its morgue and may be requesting refrigerated trucks. The Maricopa County Medical Examiner's office is also reportedly near capacity.

https://www.abc15.com/news/coronavirus/phoenix-mayor-abrazo-nearly-out-of-morgue-space-may-be-requesting-refrigerated-trucks

As expected deaths are rising in hotspots and will start to get exponential in a couple of weeks,.

FWIW, my sister is a hospital administrator in Houston and told me last night the situation isn't as dire as the media is making it out to be there.

She does think it'll get worse in the next few weeks because of the protests and 4th of July but thinks they can handle it.

She does agree the biggest problem is people not following social distancing and mask guidelines.  She doesn't believe there is anyway possible we can have anything like even 25% capacity sporting events or concerts, at least in Houston
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

You'll never believe what happened to the 30-year-old man who attended a COVID party convinced this whole coronavirus thing is a hoax.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/30-year-man-dies-attending-covid-party-thinking/story?id=71731414

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Pakuni on July 11, 2020, 12:47:02 PM
You'll never believe what happened to the 30-year-old man who attended a COVID party convinced this whole coronavirus thing is a hoax.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/30-year-man-dies-attending-covid-party-thinking/story?id=71731414
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on July 11, 2020, 12:47:02 PM
You'll never believe what happened to the 30-year-old man who attended a COVID party convinced this whole coronavirus thing is a hoax.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/30-year-man-dies-attending-covid-party-thinking/story?id=71731414

Is the gene pool really gonna miss this guy?

The unidentified patient told nurses about the party, which she said is hosted by someone diagnosed with coronavirus. "The thought is people get together to see if the virus is real and if anyone gets infected," Appleby said.

Never forget - these nuts are killing innocent people. Good riddance!

Believing Trump and Fox News is deadly. Literally.

pbiflyer

Florida County Commissioner Who Voted Against Masks In Hospital With COVID

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-county-commissioner-who-voted-against-masks-hospital-covid-1517121

Paul Waldron—the commissioner for St. Johns County just south of Jacksonville, Florida—has tested positive for COVID-19 and is currently in the hospital in critical condition. Last week, Waldron voted against a countywide order requiring all residents to wear face masks as a way to prevent coronavirus infections.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on July 11, 2020, 02:43:58 PM
Is the gene pool really gonna miss this guy?

The unidentified patient told nurses about the party, which she said is hosted by someone diagnosed with coronavirus. "The thought is people get together to see if the virus is real and if anyone gets infected," Appleby said.

Never forget - these nuts are killing innocent people. Good riddance!

Believing Trump and Fox News is deadly. Literally.

This guy obviously made some terrible choices, but he's also a victim of a political machine that for months has been telling him that COVID-19 is a hoax, or just the common cold, or just the flu.  And that unless you're elderly or in poor health, getting infected is not big deal. That 99 percent of cases are harmless.
Those are the real villains here. This guy just unfortunately fell for their scam.

shoothoops

Packed fans, no masks for a day of baseball in Taiwan, larger population than Florida.

6 active cases, 7 total deaths. Last death was May 11th.

https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1282027395625754626?s=19

wadesworld

Quote from: shoothoops on July 11, 2020, 04:18:51 PM
Packed fans, no masks for a day of baseball in Taiwan, larger population than Florida.

6 active cases, 7 total deaths. Last death was May 11th.

https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1282027395625754626?s=19

Must not be testing in Taiwan. Smart.

Jockey

#7189
Quote from: Pakuni on July 11, 2020, 04:13:35 PM
This guy obviously made some terrible choices, but he's also a victim of a political machine that for months has been telling him that COVID-19 is a hoax, or just the common cold, or just the flu.  And that unless you're elderly or in poor health, getting infected is not big deal. That 99 percent of cases are harmless.
Those are the real villains here. This guy just unfortunately fell for their scam.

Stupidity is not a defense.

But, as to you point, the leadership of an unnamed party is killing people. Unfortunately, they have millions of willing victims.

See tweet above from Hard's. I know it is meant to be funny, but that is the way these people actually think.

Hards Alumni

1% of the US population has now been confirmed positive.

reinko

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 11, 2020, 04:44:28 PM
1% of the US population has now been confirmed positive.

Only 69% more for herd immunity!

jesmu84

I suggest Joe Rogan podcast with Dr. Rhonda Patrick. Very complex/interesting stuff

Jockey

Quote from: reinko on July 11, 2020, 04:58:51 PM
Only 69% more for herd immunity!

If we get 130,000 dead for each 1%, that means a whole lot o' millions.


TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.


wadesworld

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on July 11, 2020, 06:12:25 PM
I thought this was an interesting read about where we are. 

https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-on-how-well-are-we-fighting-covid-19/

What I take from this is what was once THE world leader is now not even sitting at the table anymore. The rest of the world will figure this out sooner than later. Let's just hope come January the USA can get a seat at the table again.

Is America Great Yet?

Jockey

Quote from: BLM on July 11, 2020, 07:52:08 PM
What I take from this is what was once THE world leader is now not even sitting at the table anymore. The rest of the world will figure this out sooner than later. Let's just hope come January the USA can get a seat at the table again.

Is America Great Yet?

We are now the shytehole country. Sad.

forgetful

I can't help but wonder if some of these governors right now are just afraid to be the first one to shut things back down. And when one does, others will follow.

That, and fear of the election year. Republican governors base think this is still largely overblown and a hoax, and the virus still is more rampant in poor and minority communities that usually vote democratic. So, any shutdowns will dissolve part of the base and make them susceptible to losing an election. A shutdown, as of right now, is not going to win them votes, or aid in rallying excitement amongst their base.

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