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Author Topic: Higher Education  (Read 41572 times)

jficke13

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Re: Higher Education
« Reply #475 on: September 11, 2021, 07:40:30 AM »
Yeah there are a bunch of stories about how they pushed the online diploma mill aspect of their business. Truly, an institution with no redeeming qualities. I'd throw out the resume of anyone with a Liberty undergrad degree that didn't have some superhuman other qualification.

Summited Everest, cured cancer, wow lookin' good folks, oh, Liberty? Nah. Next.

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« Reply #476 on: September 11, 2021, 11:02:10 AM »
Yeah there are a bunch of stories about how they pushed the online diploma mill aspect of their business. Truly, an institution with no redeeming qualities. I'd throw out the resume of anyone with a Liberty undergrad degree that didn't have some superhuman other qualification.

Summited Everest, cured cancer, wow lookin' good folks, oh, Liberty? Nah. Next.

You mean you'd even take somebody who had a low ACT score?
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Re: Higher Education
« Reply #477 on: September 11, 2021, 11:46:55 AM »
Yeah there are a bunch of stories about how they pushed the online diploma mill aspect of their business. Truly, an institution with no redeeming qualities. I'd throw out the resume of anyone with a Liberty undergrad degree that didn't have some superhuman other qualification.

Summited Everest, cured cancer, wow lookin' good folks, oh, Liberty? Nah. Next.

I mean, when I went to confirm what I thought about their on campus population, I ended up having to look at 4-5 different articles before finding one from a paper in Western VA.  Everything from Liberty themselves just touts total enrollment and their gains.  No differentiation.  Smoke and mirrors

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« Reply #478 on: September 11, 2021, 02:02:30 PM »
Connecticut College goes into a total lockdown despite a 99% vaccination rate. Student groups demanding suspensions and expulsions for non-compliance.

https://mtracey.substack.com/p/theres-an-insane-australia-style
“If you’ve had three doses of the vaccine, you shouldn’t live your life in fear of it. You may well get it at some point but it probably won’t knock you out more than a couple of days, like the seasonal flu.” - Gov. Jared Polis (D -CO)

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« Reply #479 on: September 11, 2021, 02:10:01 PM »
Connecticut College goes into a total lockdown despite a 99% vaccination rate. Student groups demanding suspensions and expulsions for non-compliance.

https://mtracey.substack.com/p/theres-an-insane-australia-style

Yeah this is dumb.
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Re: Higher Education
« Reply #480 on: September 11, 2021, 04:42:57 PM »
I mean, when I went to confirm what I thought about their on campus population, I ended up having to look at 4-5 different articles before finding one from a paper in Western VA.  Everything from Liberty themselves just touts total enrollment and their gains.  No differentiation.  Smoke and mirrors

Thanks a lot, Wojo!
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Re: Higher Education
« Reply #481 on: October 27, 2021, 04:30:09 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1048955023/college-enrollment-down-pandemic-economy

"Enrollment at U.S. colleges and universities is on track to fall by another nearly 500,000 undergraduate students this fall, continuing the historic drops that began with the start of the coronavirus pandemic, according to new data out Tuesday.

The decline of 3.2% in undergraduate enrollment this fall follows a similar drop of 3.4% the previous year.."

.. I imagine part of the decline has to do with a hot job market.  An 18 year old can get a job at Target (et cetera) making $15 an hour.   Imagine staying at home with mom and dad, working for the man 40 hours a week and coming out a year later with $30k.

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« Reply #482 on: October 27, 2021, 06:43:03 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1048955023/college-enrollment-down-pandemic-economy

"Enrollment at U.S. colleges and universities is on track to fall by another nearly 500,000 undergraduate students this fall, continuing the historic drops that began with the start of the coronavirus pandemic, according to new data out Tuesday.

The decline of 3.2% in undergraduate enrollment this fall follows a similar drop of 3.4% the previous year.."

.. I imagine part of the decline has to do with a hot job market.  An 18 year old can get a job at Target (et cetera) making $15 an hour.   Imagine staying at home with mom and dad, working for the man 40 hours a week and coming out a year later with $30k.

71% of the decline in enrollment over the past 5 years is due to men no longer going to college as frequently.

The reasons for this involve a lot of elements people usually don't want to acknowledge.

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« Reply #483 on: October 27, 2021, 08:19:15 PM »
71% of the decline in enrollment over the past 5 years is due to men no longer going to college as frequently.

The reasons for this involve a lot of elements people usually don't want to acknowledge.

Yep to both of you.
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« Reply #484 on: October 27, 2021, 09:10:24 PM »
71% of the decline in enrollment over the past 5 years is due to men no longer going to college as frequently.

The reasons for this involve a lot of elements people usually don't want to acknowledge.

Cause they already got rich from crypto?

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Re: Higher Education
« Reply #485 on: October 28, 2021, 11:07:15 AM »
Cause they already got rich from crypto?

Rich .. Which crypto?  Asking for a friend.

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Re: Higher Education
« Reply #486 on: October 28, 2021, 11:23:34 AM »
The reasons for this involve a lot of elements people usually don't want to acknowledge.

???
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« Reply #487 on: October 28, 2021, 11:35:36 AM »
???

Yeah, I didn't get it either, so I read a few articles, and still not certain I understand other than the tagline of this article "Women are overrepresented in low-paying professions that require college credentials."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/upshot/college-admissions-men.html
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Re: Higher Education
« Reply #489 on: October 28, 2021, 01:35:03 PM »
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« Reply #490 on: October 28, 2021, 03:30:54 PM »
Right, but I'm still lost on the "elements people usually don't want to acknowledge",

I probably shouldn't have opened that box, as it just leads to controversy.

In general, a major part of education has focused on ending a wage imbalance between men and women. A part of that has focused on emphasizing educational strategies, emphasis on role models, successes, scholarships, special programs, etc. geared specifically towards the way girls learn and to empower women in education and leadership. This is coupled to the fact that 75% of K-12 educators are women (it has been observed that there are a lot of unconscious bias towards girls by these educators, where girls are more likely to be advocated for, celebrated, and encouraged in educational efforts).

While I understand the importance of the motives, and support efforts to end the wage imbalance, the fact is kids don't. A 3rd grade boy perceives all of this as "education is not for men." They will often struggle with educational strategies geared towards how girls learn, as opposed to how boys learn. Do not receive as much positive reinforcement, and as a result are more likely to act out leading to disproportionate punishments of boys in school, further distracting them from an education. And in the end will be faced with more a more difficult time of paying for college as their are fewer opportunities for aid.

Some universities have recognized the problems and now "double secretly" actually heavily compete for the top male students providing financial aid incentives to get them to come to their university.

However, instead of publicly addressing some of these facts, instead you often see academics instead blame, internet porn (not a joke), video games, and other overly simplistic ideals.

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« Reply #491 on: November 01, 2021, 01:01:27 PM »
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At Lakeland, the decision to create a stand-alone center for men back in the mid-90s stemmed from the success of the college’s women’s resource center, Shelley recalled.

“It was thought that if we have a program that’s such a benefit to women, wouldn’t it make sense to have a similar program for men” who had fallen behind their female peers, he said. The premise was that “men have problems, too.”

But when Shelley began calling around to see what other colleges were doing to support men, he came away empty-handed. “Most of the people I talked to expressed the sentiment that men are the problem,” he said.

Twenty-five years later, Shelley sees this structural “anti-maleness” embedded in school-discipline policies that disproportionately net boys, and in sexual-assault prevention programs that sometimes treat incoming students as threats. “I had one young man tell me ‘I was welcomed to college by being told that I’m a potential rapist,” he said

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-missing-men

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« Reply #492 on: November 01, 2021, 02:37:34 PM »
However, instead of publicly addressing some of these facts, instead you often see academics instead blame, internet porn (not a joke), video games, and other overly simplistic ideals.
Academics and Josh Hawley.

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« Reply #493 on: November 01, 2021, 02:59:56 PM »
I probably shouldn't have opened that box, as it just leads to controversy.

Appreciate the additional context.
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