COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[mu03eng]

I think it's safe to say we're gonna see a surge in 3-4 weeks

[pbiflyer]

In case you haven't paid attention, he has never been nor ran on the idea of being what Presidents have done in the past.  That is one reason he got elected if you go back and ask people why they voted for him.  Because they didn't want the same approach and didn't want someone that did what presidents have always done.  That has been clear long before the election and why does it keep stunning people years later as if they are surprised?  It should have surprised nobody.  In November people will have an option to decide again.

So his supporters didn't want a decent human being capable of basic empathy and decency? Yeah, from what I've seen of his supporters, you are right there.

[MU82]

So his supporters didn't want a decent human being capable of basic empathy and decency? Yeah, from what I've seen of his supporters, you are right there.

Well, there was that time he went to visit the survivors of the Parkland shooting with "I hear you" written on his crib sheet.

Just because he went right back to pushing for more guns everywhere it doesn't mean he's incapable of pretending to show basic empathy and decency, you know!

[GooooMarquette]

I think it's safe to say we're gonna see a surge in 3-4 weeks

I fear you are correct. Here in MN, we just appeared to have reached our peak for hospitalizations and ICU patients...but now the peak OF THE FIRST WAVE may still be many weeks away.

[Mutaman]

Well, there was that time he went to visit the survivors of the Parkland shooting with "I hear you" written on his crib sheet.

Just because he went right back to pushing for more guns everywhere it doesn't mean he's incapable of pretending to show basic empathy and decency, you know!

[ZiggysFryBoy]

The rona might be a vascular disease, in addition to a respiratory one.

https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

[mu03eng]

The rona might be a vascular disease, in addition to a respiratory one.

https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2

saw this earlier, makes a ton of sense and has since the first month....wonder if we'll see preventative ACE Inhibitors being proscribed for positive test results

[TSmith34, Inc.]

saw this earlier, makes a ton of sense and has since the first month....wonder if we'll see preventative ACE Inhibitors being proscribed for positive test results

Which is interesting because early on there was concern that use of statins was a high risk indicator. Now perhaps the opposite is true:

"The good news is that if Covid-19 is a vascular disease, there are existing drugs that can help protect against endothelial cell damage. In another New England Journal of Medicine paper that looked at nearly 9,000 people with Covid-19, Mehra showed that the use of statins and ACE inhibitors were linked to higher rates of survival. Statins reduce the risk of heart attacks not only by lowering cholesterol or preventing plaque, they also stabilize existing plaque, meaning they're less likely to rupture if someone is on the drugs."

[mu03eng]

Which is interesting because early on their was concern that use of statins was a high risk indicator. Now perhaps the opposite is true:

"The good news is that if Covid-19 is a vascular disease, there are existing drugs that can help protect against endothelial cell damage. In another New England Journal of Medicine paper that looked at nearly 9,000 people with Covid-19, Mehra showed that the use of statins and ACE inhibitors were linked to higher rates of survival. Statins reduce the risk of heart attacks not only by lowering cholesterol or preventing plaque, they also stabilize existing plaque, meaning they're less likely to rupture if someone is on the drugs."

Yeah some early assumptions may prove bad.....remember when NSAIDs were a death knell for a hot minute?

[pbiflyer]

Florida Dept of Health shut off public access to their Covid and other information.
Coincidentally after people started pointing out pneumonia deaths were up 560% according to that same DOH.
Over 4000 additional deaths by pneumonia over standard years. Averages age of those deaths, 50 years old. Now access to that info has been shut off. Hmmmmm.

[Marquette Gyros]

Good news from Italia:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUSKBN2370OQ

[forgetful]

Good news from Italia:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUSKBN2370OQ

They should be careful about over-interpreting the data. Lower viral loads in infected patients doesn't mean that the "virus is weakening". It means cases may not be as severe. There are three good reasons for that.

1. Seasonal variation in immune function. This is one of the reasons many diseases are seasonal, including other coronaviruses.

2. Social distancing decreasing the initial viral load at infection/exposure. Doctors and frontline workers were hit hardest, because they were exposed to the largest viral loads. Social distancing efforts will reduce that, leading to a milder case with lower viral loads.

3. Most of the older and most susceptible people have already been exposed. Leading to the infected population being younger and healthier.

Item 1 will go away in fall, making us susceptible to a second wave. That second wave will be stronger, if because of doctors over interpreting the data like this article is, people relax social distancing thinking the disease is weakened. That 2nd wave would be brutal if people go back to life as normal.

[pbiflyer]

Good news from Italia:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUSKBN2370OQ

Andromeda Strain II?

[WarriorDad]

Kids are more likely to die of a lightning strike than COVID 19.  Had not seen that perspective until now.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/902190/kids-more-likely-die-lightning-covid-school/

[The Sultan]

Good!  Hope his is right!

[MU82]

Kids are more likely to die of a lightning strike than COVID 19.  Had not seen that perspective until now.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/902190/kids-more-likely-die-lightning-covid-school/

And only about 100 children (a fraction of a fraction of 1%) are kidnapped each year in the stereotypical stranger abductions you hear about in the news.

http://www.pollyklaas.org/about/national-child-kidnapping.html

So nobody should be concerned about their 6-year-olds being outside without supervision.

But I do hope you'll keep finding ways to downplay and minimize COVID-19. Thanks in advance!

[forgetful]

Kids are more likely to die of a lightning strike than COVID 19.  Had not seen that perspective until now.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/902190/kids-more-likely-die-lightning-covid-school/

Why do you keep insisting on posting trash news stories that serve no purpose.

First, the argument of keeping schools closed is because they serve as a vector of spread to the rest of the community, where there are significant health/life risks.

Second, the idiot who made this claim specifically used statistics comparing deaths (under 15) so far compared to the population under 15, vs. total deaths from lightning strike (all ages) compared to the population under 15. That is disingenuous for a number of reasons. 1) It compares deaths for an entire year, of all ages, against the under 15 population. 2) It uses only the deaths for really 2-months of coronavirus, during a nationwide lockdown as a measure of the actual total mortality rate. 3) Only a moron cares about such statistics anyway, even if done in an honest manner.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Chicos promoting dishonest arguments? Huh, weird.

[MU82]

All across social media, we see supporters of President Pandemic desperately trying to downplay COVID-19. They have to push the narrative that the numbers are inflated, that Dem governors' reactions have been overblown, that "both sides" messed up, that people have nothing to lose by taking unvetted drugs, that their guy actually has done as good a job dealing with this as anybody else would have, that the "experts" suck, that most of the data is flawed, that conspiracy theories are more accurate than facts, etc.

Because if the majority of voters in battleground states believe otherwise, their emperor is screwed.

What we don't see is all of the above from "lifelong Democrats" who profess to dislike Trump ...  so we all should feel really honored and fortunate to have such a unicorn right here in ScoopLand.

[The Sultan]

All across social media, we see supporters of President Pandemic desperately trying to downplay COVID-19. They have to push the narrative that the numbers are inflated, that Dem governors' reactions have been overblown, that "both sides" messed up, that people have nothing to lose by taking unvetted drugs, that their guy actually has done as good a job dealing with this as anybody else would have, that the "experts" suck, that most of the data is flawed, that conspiracy theories are more accurate than facts, etc.

Because if the majority of voters in battleground states believe otherwise, their emperor is screwed.

What we don't see is all of the above from "lifelong Democrats" who profess to dislike Trump ...  so we all should feel really honored and fortunate to have such a unicorn right here in ScoopLand.

We are indeed blessed that someone who is so willing to see both sides and enlighten us with his anti-tribal views exists in this forum. 

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Takes 2 to 12 to tango, boys.

Don't feed the bear.

[mu03eng]

If a chicos trolls in the thread and no one reacts to its does it even troll?


Speaking of internet troll, if you watch What We Do In The Shadows on FX that had a wonderful plot thread on last weeks episode on internet trolling that involved a literal troll....it was exquisite

[injuryBug]

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[MarquetteDano]

If a chicos trolls in the thread and no one reacts to its does it even troll?


Speaking of internet troll, if you watch What We Do In The Shadows on FX that had a wonderful plot thread on last weeks episode on internet trolling that involved a literal troll....it was exquisite

Sounds like the show is worth it?  We have favored it on YouTubeTV but have not watched.

[mu03eng]

Sounds like the show is worth it?  We have favored it on YouTubeTV but have not watched.

It is somewhat inconsistent at times but at least 50% of the episodes in Season 1 and 2 are bust a gut funny. Some of the cameos they get are amazing and really deliver. The actress that plays Nadja is a freaking genius. Two thumbs up from this nerd.