5th win over top 15 ranked teams in last one+ seasons?

[Cheeks]

Someone can correct me if this is wrong for last year and this year thus far

Villanova
Buffalo
Kansas State
Villanova
Wisconsin


Maybe Painted Touches can write an article about that...

[f/k/a humanlung]

I think you are correct.  And this was a geat win, no doubt.

Too bad this isn't typical.  It would be much better if efforts like this weren't noteworthy.

[BM1090]

I think you are correct.  And this was a geat win, no doubt.

Too bad this isn't typical.  It would be much better if efforts like this weren't noteworthy.

They are starting to become typical the past 2 years.

[f/k/a humanlung]

They are starting to become typical the past 2 years.

So are blowout losses to teams that shouldn't blow us out.

Got to call it both ways.

[Cheeks]

So are blowout losses to teams that shouldn't blow us out.

Got to call it both ways.

Unfortunately it isn't called both ways, and that is the point.

[BM1090]

So are blowout losses to teams that shouldn't blow us out.

Got to call it both ways.

Absolutely. That's my biggest concern about Wojo as a coach.

[brewcity77]

I think you are correct.  And this was a geat win, no doubt.

Too bad this isn't typical.  It would be much better if efforts like this weren't noteworthy.

It's our third win in this game in the last four years, so pretty typical.

[f/k/a humanlung]

It's our third win in this game in the last four years, so pretty typical.

We'd be in great shape if we played Villanova every game then.  Too bad that isn't the case.

It would also suck if we played St. John's every game since we've lost four of seven to them.  I guess that's a blessing.

And those two paragraphs sum up my point.  We beat good Villanova teams and loss to poor St. John's teams.  Well coached teams don't do that.

[wadesworld]

We'd be in great shape if we played Villanova every game then.  Too bad that isn't the case.

It would also suck if we played St. John's every game since we've lost two of three to them.  I guess that's a blessing.

And those two paragraphs sum up my point.  We beat good Villanova teams and loss to poor St. John's teams.  Well coached teams don't do that.

Guess Roy forgot how to coach.

Huggins forgot how to coach last year.

K and Cal have home losses to terrible teams this year. Must've forgot how to coach for a few hours.

Good teams lose games they shouldn't. It happens. Pros, college, high school, etc.

[Pakuni]

We'd be in great shape if we played Villanova every game then.  Too bad that isn't the case.

It would also suck if we played St. John's every game since we've lost four of seven to them.  I guess that's a blessing.

And those two paragraphs sum up my point.  We beat good Villanova teams and loss to poor St. John's teams.  Well coached teams don't do that.

St. John's made the tournament last year. They were by no stretch a "poor team."
Villanova beat #1 Kansas two weeks ago and lost to unranked Marquette today. What's that say about the quality of their coaching?

[f/k/a humanlung]

Guess Roy forgot how to coach.

Huggins forgot how to coach last year.

K and Cal have home losses to terrible teams this year. Must've forgot how to coach for a few hours.

Good teams lose games they shouldn't. It happens. Pros, college, high school, etc.

Look at our track record under Wojo.  We're making a habit of losing games we shouldn't.  That's the problem.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

St. John's made the tournament last year. They were by no stretch a "poor team."
Villanova beat #1 Kansas two weeks ago and lost to unranked Marquette today. What's that say about the quality of their coaching?

Never reason with a fool.

[f/k/a humanlung]

St. John's made the tournament last year. They were by no stretch a "poor team."
Villanova beat #1 Kansas two weeks ago and lost to unranked Marquette today. What's that say about the quality of their coaching?

St. John's was 21-13 last year, 8-10 in conference.  The year before, 16-17 and 4-14 in conference.  The year before that, 14-19 and 7-11.

That isn't a good team during the span I referenced.

[Pakuni]

Look at our track record under Wojo.  We're making a habit of losing games we shouldn't.  That's the problem.

MU is 11-0 in games it was favored this year.

[Pakuni]

St. John's was 21-13 last year, 8-10 in conference.  The year before, 16-17 and 4-14 in conference.  The year before that, 14-19 and 7-11.

That isn't a good team during the span I referenced.

So because St. John's was bad in 2017, Marquette should have beat them on the road in 2019.
Hard to beat that logic.

[f/k/a humanlung]

MU is 11-0 in games it was favored this year.

I would hope so work the cupcakes we play early!

But when it comes to games that matter, like in March...

[Pakuni]

I would hope so work the cupcakes we play early!

But when it comes to games that matter, like in March...

Wins over Purdue and Nova don't matter.
Got it.

[tower912]

Bray all you want, Wojo is staying.

[WhiteTrash]

Guess Roy forgot how to coach.

Huggins forgot how to coach last year.

K and Cal have home losses to terrible teams this year. Must've forgot how to coach for a few hours.

Good teams lose games they shouldn't. It happens. Pros, college, high school, etc.

You and about three other people think Wojo and Huggins, Coach K and Cal should be thought of as similarly accomplished coaches.

Wojo had a great game today. He deserves kudos for that. Speaking as a fan who was in favor of his modest contract extension he was given; he needs to add significantly to his resume to be given the benefit of the doubt that the coaches you referenced have earned.

Pointing to hall of fame coaches who lose a random game or a down year (after 20+ years)to defend Wojo is a very weak endorsement of Wojo. You could make a case for 150+ coaches to have jobs in the Big East with that logic.

[rocky_warrior]

Pointing to hall of fame coaches who lose a random game or a down year (after 20+ years)to defend Wojo is a very weak endorsement of Wojo. You could make a case for 150+ coaches to have jobs in the Big East with that logic.

This isn't even a defense of Wojo.  It's pointing out a ridiculous argument by a single member.  Especially as you said, Wojo & team had a great day today. 

[Small Orange Soda]

You and about three other people think Wojo and Huggins, Coach K and Cal should be thought of as similarly accomplished coaches.

Wojo had a great game today. He deserves kudos for that. Speaking as a fan who was in favor of his modest contract extension he was given; he needs to add significantly to his resume to be given the benefit of the doubt that the coaches you referenced have earned.

Pointing to hall of fame coaches who lose a random game or a down year (after 20+ years)to defend Wojo is a very weak endorsement of Wojo. You could make a case for 150+ coaches to have jobs in the Big East with that logic.

Yup.  Great win by Wojo, and he deserves credit for it, same as he deserved an absolute dousing for his game plan against Creighton.  We're now 1-1 in the Big East.  Where are we going to go from here? Hopefully shutting up anyone who doesn't believe in him.  If not, the chirping will continue.

[f/k/a humanlung]

So because St. John's was bad in 2017, Marquette should have beat them on the road in 2019.
Hard to beat that logic.

Um...no.  Someone commented we beat Villanova in two of three, and that this is great.  I pointed out we lost four of seven to a poor St. John's team, and that isn't great. 

I made no reference to which team should have won where and during which year.

[WhiteTrash]

This isn't even a defense of Wojo.  It's pointing out a ridiculous argument by a single member.  Especially as you said, Wojo & team had a great day today.

Fair enough. I may have been trigger happy due to certain posters who believe Wojo is on a similar track to Coach K and Jay Wright. Which I wish was true but see very little evidence of.

As I said before, great game today for MU and Wojo. Really impressed how he got them to play defense after the Creighton game. Also hopeful with the class for next year. 

[ATL MU Warrior]

Fair enough. I may have been trigger happy due to certain posters who believe Wojo is on a similar track to Coach K and Jay Wright.. Which I wish was true but see very little evidence of.

As I said before, great game today for MU and Wojo. Really impressed how he got them to play defense after the Creighton game. Also hopeful with the class for next year.

Your reading comprehension is very very bad. Nobody has ever said this.

[Cheeks]

Fair enough. I may have been trigger happy due to certain posters who believe Wojo is on a similar track to Coach K and Jay Wright. Which I wish was true but see very little evidence of.

As I said before, great game today for MU and Wojo. Really impressed how he got them to play defense after the Creighton game. Also hopeful with the class for next year.

I don't think anyone says that.  When other coaches are brought up it is to show even AP Coach of the decade, National Title coaches, HOF coaches with BETTER teams lose these games, but when Wojo loses them people call for his head....when these guys lose them it's just basketball.