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Author Topic: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20  (Read 280172 times)

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Re: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20
« Reply #1100 on: June 18, 2020, 01:18:24 PM »
I am strangely indifferent to the DH at this point. I grew up w/a National League ball preference. I pitched and played shortstop when I played so being able to a variety of things was part of it.

But I've enjoyed both leagues. I also follow college baseball pretty closely, which utilitizes the DH. I often enjoy one coach who inserts an off day starting pitcher as his lineup DH, waiting for his first turn at bat to decide whom else he'll hit there instead depending on what is going on in the game.
 

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Re: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20
« Reply #1101 on: June 18, 2020, 01:37:07 PM »
I like the different rules for each league.  It makes the league you're in mean something unique.
But if it goes all DH, I get it.  Pitchers are expensive.

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« Reply #1102 on: June 19, 2020, 06:02:38 AM »
I can conjure some false outrage at getting rid of the DH, I'm sure. I think the strategy is fun (not to mention the boost a team gets when a guy that shouldn't get a hit, does)

It'll make the Woodruff dinger off of Kershaw just a little more memorable

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Re: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20
« Reply #1103 on: June 19, 2020, 07:59:19 AM »
I can conjure some false outrage at getting rid of the DH, I'm sure. I think the strategy is fun (not to mention the boost a team gets when a guy that shouldn't get a hit, does)

It'll make the Woodruff dinger off of Kershaw just a little more memorable
Thank home run is one of my favorite memories in brewers history. But I’ll be happy with DH.

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Re: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20
« Reply #1104 on: June 19, 2020, 01:14:07 PM »
This isn't good as we try to get our sports leagues up and going ...

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3584656-covid-blows-keep-coming-phillies-close-training-facilities

The MLB's Philadelphia Phillies confirm that five players and three staff members at the club's Clearwater, FL facility have tested positive for COVID-19, with the first confirmed case coming this past Tuesday.

Twenty players (both major and minor leaguers) and twelve staff members are in the process of being tested.

The club declines to say how this news might affect plans for a 2020 season.

This report comes on top of Apple closing some stores in four states where COVID cases are back on the rise. Also, the WHO says the pandemic is accelerating after a record number of new cases yesterday.


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Re: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20
« Reply #1105 on: June 19, 2020, 03:00:16 PM »
I can conjure some false outrage at getting rid of the DH, I'm sure. I think the strategy is fun (not to mention the boost a team gets when a guy that shouldn't get a hit, does)

It'll make the Woodruff dinger off of Kershaw just a little more memorable

I welcome the DH to the National League. I understand why many don't want to see it.

But I think there is more strategy involved with the DH than with the pitcher hitting. And I like the fact that team's best pinch hitters will be available in the 9th inning. We will need to wait and see if that affects games more than in the past where many times you were stuck with a guy who wasn't much better than a pitcher when it came to hitting.
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« Reply #1106 on: June 19, 2020, 03:31:29 PM »
This isn't good as we try to get our sports leagues up and going ...

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3584656-covid-blows-keep-coming-phillies-close-training-facilities

The MLB's Philadelphia Phillies confirm that five players and three staff members at the club's Clearwater, FL facility have tested positive for COVID-19, with the first confirmed case coming this past Tuesday.

Twenty players (both major and minor leaguers) and twelve staff members are in the process of being tested.

The club declines to say how this news might affect plans for a 2020 season.

This report comes on top of Apple closing some stores in four states where COVID cases are back on the rise. Also, the WHO says the pandemic is accelerating after a record number of new cases yesterday.


Nothing's easy, man. This stuff is rough.

Phillies and blue Jays have shut down their facilities today.

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Re: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20
« Reply #1107 on: June 19, 2020, 09:20:07 PM »
Phillies and blue Jays have shut down their facilities today.

Phillies are in Clearwater. That's one of the places where beaches, bars and restaurants have been packed.
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Re: MLB Hot Stove 2019-20
« Reply #1108 on: June 20, 2020, 09:22:51 AM »
Yesterday was not a promising one if you want sports in 2020

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« Reply #1109 on: June 20, 2020, 09:47:43 AM »
Adios baseball and take all other pro sports with you. Ewe fookin' screwed da pooch won two many tymes, aina?
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« Reply #1110 on: June 20, 2020, 10:26:15 AM »
Adios baseball and take all other pro sports with you. Ewe fookin' screwed da pooch won two many tymes, aina?


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« Reply #1111 on: June 20, 2020, 11:42:18 AM »
Adios baseball and take all other pro sports with you. Ewe fookin' screwed da pooch won two many tymes, aina?

I understand your doc-speak. I just don't understand the point you are trying to make. Which pooches did they and all other pro sports screw to prevent them from playing this season?
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« Reply #1112 on: June 20, 2020, 02:40:52 PM »
Its not this season, per se. Just the entire entitlement mentality of both arrogant sides
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« Reply #1113 on: June 20, 2020, 02:58:45 PM »
Its not this season, per se. Just the entire entitlement mentality of both arrogant sides

I don't believe that either the NBA or NHL deserve a "pox on both of their heads" slam, and it's too soon for the NFL.
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« Reply #1114 on: June 20, 2020, 03:07:58 PM »
I'd say it's unlikely none of these sports either start or complete their seasons
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« Reply #1115 on: June 20, 2020, 04:11:45 PM »
I'd say it's unlikely none of these sports either start or complete their seasons

You might be right. But your earlier comment (or at least your explanation of it) seemed to suggest that it was the mentality of "both sides" that caused no basketball or hockey or football, too.

No biggie. I hate arguing about this kind of semantic silliness. I know what you mean now.
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« Reply #1116 on: June 20, 2020, 05:00:27 PM »
So much for the players "tell us when and where" mantra.

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« Reply #1117 on: June 20, 2020, 05:04:19 PM »
So much for the players "tell us when and where" mantra.

I think that stemmed from the clause in the March agreement where the Commissioner could unilaterally dictate the amount of games with 100% pay.

I believe at that point the thought was the owners weren’t going to negotiate in good faith, they might as well wait for them to exercise that clause. I don’t think it was a “we will be happy with anything” type of comment.

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« Reply #1118 on: June 20, 2020, 05:18:56 PM »
I think that stemmed from the clause in the March agreement where the Commissioner could unilaterally dictate the amount of games with 100% pay.

I believe at that point the thought was the owners weren’t going to negotiate in good faith, they might as well wait for them to exercise that clause. I don’t think it was a “we will be happy with anything” type of comment.


I go back to my earlier comment: "Owners have determined that they will lose money this year. They also know players will demand 100% prorated salary. Thus owners will keep Season as short as possible - 48 games."


I still stand by my comment from a month or two ago that there will be no season, though. Manfred will dictate the 48 game season, but Covid will be too much to overcome as outbreaks hit camps.


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« Reply #1120 on: June 20, 2020, 07:57:50 PM »
“True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else.” - Clarence Darrow

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« Reply #1121 on: June 20, 2020, 08:10:32 PM »

::)

i was unaware that Scherzer and Harper spoke for the entire union.

Scherzer is one of the most vocal union reps. And one of the most influential.

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« Reply #1122 on: June 20, 2020, 08:16:45 PM »
Scherzer is one of the most vocal union reps. And one of the most influential.

Oh.  So he doesn't speak for the union though.
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« Reply #1123 on: June 20, 2020, 08:27:02 PM »
Stone cold crazy, hey?
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« Reply #1124 on: June 20, 2020, 08:43:53 PM »
Oh.  So he doesn't speak for the union though.

Can you use google on your own?

How about Tony Clark?  Does he speak for the union?

https://www.cleveland.com/tribe/2020/06/mlbpas-tony-clark-its-time-to-get-back-to-work-tell-us-where-and-when.html

It was being said by players all over the place.  If you paid attention you would have know that.  Instead you tried to be clever out of ignorance.  Nice job.
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