MLB Hot Stove 2019-20

[MUBurrow]

And I just view the players' lie as altogether different than the owners'.  The owners want to throw out the framework of the March deal becuase games without fans is "economically unfeasible."  But they have never and will not provide reliable revenue numbers for past years as context.  They are demanding the union negotiate without sufficient information, which ain't right if you are trying to socialize your losses.

[Lennys Tap]

And I just view the players' lie as altogether different than the owners'. 

Burrow

I think (in general) you back the players and oppose the owners. When you bring a bias you'll view each sides lies differently.

[MUBurrow]

Burrow

I think (in general) you back the players and oppose the owners. When you bring a bias you'll view each sides lies differently.

No doubt you're right about that.

[shoothoops]

https://theathletic.com/1875769/2020/06/17/posnanski-mlb-owners-are-committed-to-not-spending-more-fans-will-pay-the-price/?amp#click=https://t.co/fljgfXRW3T

[buckchuckler]

https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1273320338017968130

Reportedly approaching a deal with pro-rated pay and expanded playoffs.  Mandfred and Clark have been meeting in person.

[The Sultan]

https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1273320338017968130

Reportedly approaching a deal with pro-rated pay and expanded playoffs.  Mandfred and Clark have been meeting in person.

It was reported somewhere that it looks like about a 70ish game season. 

[Jockey]

https://theathletic.com/1875769/2020/06/17/posnanski-mlb-owners-are-committed-to-not-spending-more-fans-will-pay-the-price/?amp#click=https://t.co/fljgfXRW3T

Two things.

1. I read the article earlier today. It is outstanding.

2. Mild criticism of your post. I assume most posters cannot read the article you linked to. So, to you and other posters who do this, please post a short summary to start a discussion. I oppose (as do most here) copying and pasting an article behind a paywall, but a summary in your own words is fine.

[buckchuckler]

It was reported somewhere that it looks like about a 70ish game season.

Buster Olney reporting 60.  Seems like it is still a little fluid.

[Pakuni]

 MLBPA Communications @MLBPA_News
Reports of an agreement are false.

[buckchuckler]

Offer is for 60 games in 70 days, and expanded playoffs in 20 and 21 (16 teams).

[4everwarriors]

Reely don't give a chit 'bout any of deez pro sports. Dave sucked out all da fun outta sportz, hey?

[Pakuni]

Reely don't give a chit 'bout any of deez pro sports. Dave sucked out all da fun outta sportz, hey?

Dave sucks. Hate that guy.

[4everwarriors]

Crean sucks

[WI inferiority Complexes]

Play fooking ball.

[Lennys Tap]

Dave sucks. Hate that guy.

Dave's not here.

[shoothoops]

Two things.

1. I read the article earlier today. It is outstanding.

2. Mild criticism of your post. I assume most posters cannot read the article you linked to. So, to you and other posters who do this, please post a short summary to start a discussion. I oppose (as do most here) copying and pasting an article behind a paywall, but a summary in your own words is fine.

Yep fair. Yeah I was going to add summary and didn't. And, I was going to add that The Athletic does frequent free trials including a free 3 month trial during the pandemic for those unable to subscribe, meaning it is pretty easy to read one off articles sometimes.

Amusing line I heard today was how KC's new off season owner saw his $1billion purchase go to a new value of $1 billion $25 million.....as he somehow must have found $25 million in the seat cushions before the team even played a game under the new ownership.

[Hards Alumni]

Offer is for 60 games in 70 days, and expanded playoffs in 20 and 21 (16 teams).

66

[shoothoops]

It is being reported that the proposed new deal would have universal DH for 2020 and 2021. And, it would most likely continue with new CBA after that.

[Lennys Tap]

It is being reported that the proposed new deal would have universal DH for 2020 and 2021. And, it would most likely continue with new CBA after that.

Finally.

[#UnleashSean]

It is being reported that the proposed new deal would have universal DH for 2020 and 2021. And, it would most likely continue with new CBA after that.

Booooo

[The Sultan]

It is being reported that the proposed new deal would have universal DH for 2020 and 2021. And, it would most likely continue with new CBA after that.

Thank God.

[Spotcheck Billy]

From an alleged memo from the PA to players today:
The union letter included other details in its summary of the meeting:

   
• Spring training would begin no later than June 28 for position players.
• The season would consist of 60 games, beginning July 19 or 20 and ending Sept. 27.
• Expanded postseason in 2020 and 2021, with a minimum players' pool of $25 million.
• 100 percent prorated salaries (60 games would amount to about 37 percent of a 162-game season and salary)
• Designated hitter in both leagues in 2020 and 2021.
• Opt-out rights for high-risk individuals, as defined by the CDC.
• MLB would direct $10 million for social justice initiatives.
• 'Minimum' player commitments for broadcast elements, including the miking of players.
• Corporate advertising on uniforms in 2020 and 2021.
• Enhanced housing allowances for spring training and regular season.
• Mutual waiver of potential grievances under the March Agreement.

[cheebs09]

It is being reported that the proposed new deal would have universal DH for 2020 and 2021. And, it would most likely continue with new CBA after that.

This is great. I liked pitchers batting for nostalgia, but once Jimmy Nelson ruined his career running the bases, I changed my mind.

[The Sultan]

From an alleged memo from the PA to players today:
The union letter included other details in its summary of the meeting:

   
• Spring training would begin no later than June 28 for position players.
• The season would consist of 60 games, beginning July 19 or 20 and ending Sept. 27.
• Expanded postseason in 2020 and 2021, with a minimum players' pool of $25 million.
• 100 percent prorated salaries (60 games would amount to about 37 percent of a 162-game season and salary)
• Designated hitter in both leagues in 2020 and 2021.
• Opt-out rights for high-risk individuals, as defined by the CDC.
• MLB would direct $10 million for social justice initiatives.
• 'Minimum' player commitments for broadcast elements, including the miking of players.
• Corporate advertising on uniforms in 2020 and 2021.
• Enhanced housing allowances for spring training and regular season.
• Mutual waiver of potential grievances under the March Agreement.

Get it done and let's go.

[buckchuckler]

From an alleged memo from the PA to players today:
The union letter included other details in its summary of the meeting:

   
• Spring training would begin no later than June 28 for position players.
• The season would consist of 60 games, beginning July 19 or 20 and ending Sept. 27.
• Expanded postseason in 2020 and 2021, with a minimum players' pool of $25 million.
• 100 percent prorated salaries (60 games would amount to about 37 percent of a 162-game season and salary)
• Designated hitter in both leagues in 2020 and 2021.
• Opt-out rights for high-risk individuals, as defined by the CDC.
• MLB would direct $10 million for social justice initiatives.
• 'Minimum' player commitments for broadcast elements, including the miking of players.
• Corporate advertising on uniforms in 2020 and 2021.
• Enhanced housing allowances for spring training and regular season.
• Mutual waiver of potential grievances under the March Agreement.