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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2019, 10:50:19 AM »
Tower, you still think 12-6 in conf?   That’s pretty sporty.

The first four games we have, 1-3 very possible. 
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2019, 11:12:09 AM »
Thinking 11-7 after this. Get both against prov. Both against Depaul. Splits everywhere else.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2019, 11:14:47 AM »
Thinking 11-7 after this. Get both against prov. Both against Depaul. Splits everywhere else.

I would be surprised if we do that.  I’ll take 10-8 right now.  Wouldn’t be surprised if it was 8-10.  Going to be a bear. 
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2019, 03:31:40 PM »
Big East NET Rankings as of December 21
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3   5   Butler   
21   25   Villanova   
26   37   Creighton   
35   33   Georgetown   
36   41   Seton Hall   
37   44   DePaul   
50   67   St. John's
52   55   Marquette   
56   64   Xavier   
123   157   Providence
   
12/21 Team Sheets Not posted yet

12/20 Team Sheets
MU is on page 55
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2020,%202019.pdf

 
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2019, 04:34:41 PM »
Thinking 11-7 after this. Get both against prov. Both against Depaul. Splits everywhere else.

Anyone who is just penciling in 2 wins against DePaul hasn’t watched DePaul play this year.  What they have and haven’t done the past 15 years is irrelevant.  This is a pretty good team and their resume and rankings show just that.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2019, 04:41:22 PM »
Anyone who is just penciling in 2 wins against DePaul hasn’t watched DePaul play this year.  What they have and haven’t done the past 15 years is irrelevant.  This is a pretty good team and their resume and rankings show just that.
Seems like this year home court is huge. Hold serve at home, steal a few on the road, Providence, Creighton, St Johns. 11 or 12 wins.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2019, 04:56:03 PM »
Seems like this year home court is huge. Hold serve at home, steal a few on the road, Providence, Creighton, St Johns. 11 or 12 wins.

We will lose at least one, probably two at home.  Question is whether we can steal more than 1 or 2 on road to offset
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2019, 06:26:21 PM »
Thinking 11-7 after this. Get both against prov. Both against Depaul. Splits everywhere else.

Not to be negative, but we don't usually take both from DePaul when they are dog poop.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2019, 06:46:15 PM »
Thinking 11-7 after this. Get both against prov. Both against Depaul. Splits everywhere else.

I would substitute Georgetown for DePaul. Don’t get me wrong, the Hoyas have impressed since The Leftovers, but I think depth issues will really hurt once they get into conference play.

I'd also give us a decent shot at sweeping Creighton since we own their arena.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2019, 07:49:36 PM »
I would substitute Georgetown for DePaul. Don’t get me wrong, the Hoyas have impressed since The Leftovers, but I think depth issues will really hurt once they get into conference play.

I'd also give us a decent shot at sweeping Creighton since we own their arena.

I think they get us this year. Its BE game 1.

Without looking back at it. In the New BE how many times have we started 1-0? Thats been a tough trend for us.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2019, 10:02:13 PM »
I think they get us this year. Its BE game 1.

Without looking back at it. In the New BE how many times have we started 1-0? Thats been a tough trend for us.

Just 2016-17, Howard's freshman year. Time to finish it how he started.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2019, 06:39:42 PM »
Big East Conference Rankings
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10. Nova
12. Butler
Others receiving votes - X, DePaul, MU, Creighton, St. Johns, Georgetown, Seton Hall
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9. Nova
11. Butler
Others receiving votes -Seton Hall, X, MU, Creighton , DePaul

D1 Net rankings as of December 22
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3   3   Butler      
21   21   Villanova      
24   26   Creighton      
31   35   Georgetown   
32   36   Seton Hall   
35   37   DePaul   
48   50   St. John's    
50   52   Marquette   
51   56   Xavier   
119   123   Providence   

12/22 Team Sheets Not Available

12/20 Team Sheets
MU is on page 55
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2020,%202019.pdf



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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2019, 11:53:16 AM »
Big East Net Rankings as of December 23
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4   3   Butler   
21   21   Villanova   
24   24   Creighton   
31   31   Georgetown   
33   32   Seton Hall   
36   35   DePaul   
48   48   St. John's
50   50   Marquette
51   51   Xavier   
122   119   Providence   

Team Sheets have not been updated since 12/20

12/20 Team Sheets
MU is on page 55
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2020,%202019.pdf


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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2019, 01:05:26 PM »
Thinking 11-7 after this. Get both against prov. Both against Depaul. Splits everywhere else.

I think 10-8 would be solid.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2019, 11:10:27 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of December 25
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3   4   Butler   
21   21   Villanova   
24   24   Creighton   
29   31   Georgetown   
34   33   Seton Hall
36   36   DePaul   
47   48   St. John's
50   50   Marquette   
52   51   Xavier   
122   122   Providence   

12/25 NCAA Detailed NET summary. Will post team sheets as soon as they are available.

http://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Nitty%20Gritty%20-%20Dec.%2025,%202019.pdf
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2019, 05:24:29 PM »
Big East NET Rankings as of December 27
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3   3   Butler   
21   21   Villanova   
24   24   Creighton   
29   29   Georgetown   
34   34   Seton Hall   
36   36   DePaul   
47   47   St. John's
50   50   Marquette   
52   52   Xavier   
121   122   Providence   

12/27 Team Sheets
MU is on page 50
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2027,%202019.pdf
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #41 on: December 28, 2019, 07:51:38 PM »
Interesting that Marquette will likely only have 1 Q3 game all year and 23 of their 30 games will be Q1 or Q2 games.  We are also scheduled to play 14 Q1 games (could change) with 12 more to go, so plenty of chances to have an impressive resume.  Have to think that will be a feature to our schedule that will help come selection Sunday.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2019, 08:53:30 AM »
MU zooms up to #37 from #50 in the NET ranks following yesterday’s blowout win.  Guess those offensive efficiency numbers are really significant in the NET calcs.

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« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2019, 09:56:13 AM »
Big East NET Rankings as of December 28
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3   3   Butler   
21   21   Villanova   
24   24   Creighton   
31   29   Georgetown   
34   34   Seton Hall   
37   50   Marquette   
38   36   DePaul   
49   47   St. John's
53   52   Xavier   

12/28 Team Sheets
MU is on Page 37
123   121   Providence   

12/29
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2019, 10:21:31 AM »
Wow, that’s quite the jump. I wonder if UW pounding Tennessee helped that as well.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2019, 10:32:40 AM »
MU zooms up to #37 from #50 in the NET ranks following yesterday’s blowout win.  Guess those offensive efficiency numbers are really significant in the NET calcs.

I know people don't feel the necessity of running up efficiency margins, but even against crap teams, it helps. Wisconsin and Purdue winning likely helped, but our margin was the biggest determiner, no doubt.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2019, 07:50:48 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of December 29
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4   3   Butler   
20   21   Villanova   
25   24   Creighton   
30   31   Georgetown   
33   34   Seton Hall   
35   37   Marquette   
39   38   DePaul   
49   49   St. John's
53   53   Xavier   
129   123   Providence   

12/29 Team Sheets Not available

12/28 Team sheets
MU is on page 37
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2028,%202019.pdf
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2019, 10:07:43 AM »
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2019, 10:08:03 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of December 29
New Old
4   3   Butler   
20   21   Villanova   
25   24   Creighton   
30   31   Georgetown   
33   34   Seton Hall   
35   37   Marquette   
39   38   DePaul   
49   49   St. John's
53   53   Xavier   
129   123   Providence   

12/29 Team Sheets Not available

12/28 Team sheets
MU is on page 37
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2028,%202019.pdf

Georgetown ahead of us.  Wow.  New Big East has been interesting - very solid top to bottom yet ultimately just 1 or 2 Top 25 caliber teams.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2019, 10:50:25 AM »
Question: Are the Q1, Q2 etc determined at the time of playing, or end of year? 

 

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