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Author Topic: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets  (Read 37958 times)

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2019, 10:55:17 AM »
Question: Are the Q1, Q2 etc determined at the time of playing, or end of year?

End of year
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2019, 11:05:45 AM »
Question: Are the Q1, Q2 etc determined at the time of playing, or end of year?

End of year if I recall correctly
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2019, 11:44:00 AM »
Question: Are the Q1, Q2 etc determined at the time of playing, or end of year?

Ultimately, end of year, but when you look at a team sheet, it's wherever the team stands as of that moment. So North Dakota State is currently a Q4 opponent, but if they handily win on Thursday (15+ points, favored by 13) they will likely move up to Q3. But they could easily move back and forth between Q3 and Q4 as the year goes on, possibly even get to Q2 if they really dominated the Summit.

The only number that matters is where the Quadrants & NET stand on Selection Sunday. Worth noting, if you ever go back to look at past NCAA rankings (NET or RPI) they will show a final number and a "previous" number. The more important one is actually the "previous" number because that is taking into account where teams stood when bids were allocated. It's fine to consider the results of the various postseason tournaments, but it's not like they retroactively change anyone's end-season results.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2019, 11:55:40 AM »
Big East Conference Poll Rankings
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10. Nova
11. Butler
Others Receiving Votes-X, DePaul, MU, Georgetown, Creighton, The Johnnies, The Hall

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9. Nova
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Others Receiving Votes- X, MU,Creighton, DePaul, The Hall 

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #54 on: December 31, 2019, 09:54:09 AM »
Big East Net Rankings as of December 30
New Old
4   4   Butler   
17   20   Villanova   
24   25   Creighton   
25   33   Seton Hall   
29   30   Georgetown   
35   35   Marquette   
51   49   St. John's
52   53   Xavier   
67   39   DePaul   
128   129   Providence

12/30 Team Sheets Not out
12/29 Team Sheet
MU is on page 35
   https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2029,%202019.pdf

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2019, 10:50:51 AM »
Damn. DePaul took a hit.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2019, 11:27:14 AM »
Damn. DePaul took a hit.

Gotta protect home. Road wins are VERY valuable too. A win at Creighton would be really good for us.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2020, 11:24:58 AM »
MU up to 31 from 35 in today’s NET rankings.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2020, 12:39:28 PM »
Big East Net Rankings as of December 31
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4   4   Butler   
16   17   Villanova   
22   24   Creighton   
25   25   Seton Hall   
31   35   Marquette   
47   52   Xavier   
53   29   Georgetown   
56   51   St. John's
68   67   DePaul   
108   128   Providence   

12/31 Team Sheets
MU is on page 31
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Dec.%2031,%202019.pdf

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2020, 05:13:17 AM »
MU dropped to 37 in the NET rankings. Thought it would be more than that...

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2020, 06:34:53 AM »
MU dropped to 37 in the NET rankings. Thought it would be more than that...
I wonder how much scoring those last 9 cosmetic points after they emptied the bench helped.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2020, 06:45:49 AM »
I wonder how much scoring those last 9 cosmetic points after they emptied the bench helped.

Would love to figure out the impact...

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2020, 06:49:00 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of January 1
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4   4   Butler   
17   16   Villanova   
22   22   Creighton   
25   25   Seton Hall   
37   31   Marquette   
48   47   Xavier   
49   53   Georgetown   
54   56   St. John's
63   68   DePaul   
107   108   Providence

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2020, 07:41:01 AM »
I wonder how much scoring those last 9 cosmetic points after they emptied the bench helped.

And how many seed lines did it cost the Blue Jays? LOL.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2020, 08:04:08 AM »
Just as notable, Creighton won what was a borderline Q1 game at home and didn't rise at all.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2020, 08:09:22 AM »
MU dropped to 37 in the NET rankings. Thought it would be more than that...

Most impact comes from losing at home.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2020, 08:42:11 AM »
And how many seed lines did it cost the Blue Jays? LOL.

Depending how the chips fall, I would guess a max of 1.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2020, 10:46:24 AM »
Depending how the chips fall, I would guess a max of 1.

So it's conceptually possible that it could cost them a tourney bid?

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2020, 02:19:52 PM »
So it's conceptually possible that it could cost them a tourney bid?

As silly as it sounds, yes.
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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2020, 02:18:16 PM »
Big East NET rankings as of January 2
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4   4   Butler   
17   17   Villanova   
23   22   Creighton   
28   25   Seton Hall
34   37   Marquette   
44   48   Xavier   
46   49   Georgetown   
48   54   St. John's    
63   63   DePaul   
105   107   Providence
   
1/02 Team Sheets
MU is on Page 34
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%202,%202020.pdf

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2020, 09:25:00 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of January 3
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4   4   Butler   
19   17   Villanova   
23   23   Creighton   
25   28   Seton Hall   
33   34   Marquette   
45   44   Xavier   
47   48   St. John's
54   46   Georgetown   
63   63   DePaul   
108   105   Providence   

1/3 Team Sheets Not Posted Yet
/02 Team Sheets
MU is on Page 34
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%202,%202020.pdf

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2020, 08:34:40 AM »
Big jump in NET for MU after beating Nova. Up to 25 from 33.

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Re: Big East Poll,NET rankings and Team Sheets
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2020, 09:20:16 AM »
Big East NET rankings as of January 4
New Old
3   4   Butler   
22   23   Creighton   
24   19   Villanova   
25   33   Marquette   
27   25   Seton Hall   
43   45   Xavier   
47   47   St. John's
58   54   Georgetown   
77   63   DePaul   
98   108   Providence   

1/04 Team Sheets
MU is on Page 25
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/NET%20Team%20Sheets%20-%20Jan.%204,%202020.pdf

 

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