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Cheeks

Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 06, 2020, 05:48:56 PM
Yep, UVA's 184th ranked offense isn't very prolific.  Then again, UVA is coming off a National Championship, which is nice.

True, but also true is their amazing defense allowed Purdue to score 69 on them....only two teams have scored 69 or more on them all year...and UVa lost both times.  No one else has even scored 57 on them this year.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: AirPunch on January 06, 2020, 05:55:05 PM
The teams MU beat in non-conference are really not coming through. Purdue, Davidson, KSU, and imo USC (watched the whole game last night and they looked terrible) are all pretty bad this year. I'm not counting on any of those being "good" wins on selection Sunday.

We'll see how it plays out.  Kansas State is currently an A game win.  USC is considered B, same for Davidson and Purdue.   Those schools will likely get some scalps at home and lose some bad games on the road, that's been the trend this year.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

79Warrior

Quote from: Cheeks on January 06, 2020, 06:20:41 PM
We'll see how it plays out.  Kansas State is currently an A game win.  USC is considered B, same for Davidson and Purdue.   Those schools will likely get some scalps at home and lose some bad games on the road, that's been the trend this year.

Purdue is fading fast. They are horrible.

WhiteTrash

All I can say is that this Big East is really good. Seems that most everyone in the country knows the BE about the #2 or #3 conference most years (except maybe some people/kids in Madison). What Val, the BE presidents and university programs have done should be admired. Hell, look at what UCONN is doing to get back into the Big East. That speaks volumes. Kudos to MU and the rest of the Big East.

brewcity77

Quote from: Cheeks on January 06, 2020, 06:20:41 PM
We'll see how it plays out.  Kansas State is currently an A game win.  USC is considered B, same for Davidson and Purdue.   Those schools will likely get some scalps at home and lose some bad games on the road, that's been the trend this year.

Ultimately though kenpom's letter system is completely meaningless. Where they fall in the Quadrant system are all that matters. All of those are Q2 games.

Cheeks

Quote from: 79Warrior on January 06, 2020, 07:04:38 PM
Purdue is fading fast. They are horrible.

They are expected to lose their next three games because of who they play....but they haven't played them yet.  In terms of fading fast, what are you talking about?  They lost badly this weekend, won their previous two and lost to Butler before that trailing 62-58 with under a minute to play before ultimately falling by 9.

They have a win over Virginia and an OT loss to Florida State.

Right now they are projected in the NCAA tournament.  Maybe they are "horrible", but that doesn't line up with their resume to date or your description.  And yes, I expect them to lose their next three games.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2020, 08:01:22 PM
Ultimately though kenpom's letter system is completely meaningless. Where they fall in the Quadrant system are all that matters. All of those are Q2 games.

Incorrect and false.  NCAA uses Ken Pom, Sagarin, etc as tools.  To say they are meaningless is not correct.  How much meaning, who knows...but you cannot say meaningless.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

brewcity77

Quote from: Cheeks on January 06, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Incorrect and false.  NCAA uses Ken Pom, Sagarin, etc as tools.  To say they are meaningless is not correct.  How much meaning, who knows...but you cannot say meaningless.

The system and overall rankings they use. The A/B classification is nowhere on the team sheets. It's meaningless.

MuMark


IrwinFletcher

#18 Virginia loses to Boston College
#20 Penn St loses to Rutgers

Crap happens

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on January 07, 2020, 09:09:52 PM
#18 Virginia loses to Boston College
#20 Penn St loses to Rutgers

Crap happens

Villanova looks like they're about to be ripped apart by Creighton.  Barely keeping their head above water.

Mr. Nielsen

Pitt once trailed by 14 points, will win at North Carolina.
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MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 08, 2020, 07:57:08 PM
Pitt once trailed by 14 points, will win at North Carolina.

Roy Williams' worst team since being at UNC.

lawdog77

Northwestern choked it away at IU. 1.5 seconds down two IU ball and NW calls its last TO.  Must be a Duke strategy.

VegasWarrior77

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 08, 2020, 08:01:12 PM
Roy Williams' worst team since being at UNC.

Wonder if old Roy will be ushered into retirement like Dean Smith, dadgum it!
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on January 08, 2020, 08:06:16 PM
Wonder if old Roy will be ushered into retirement like Dean Smith, dadgum it!

It'll be the 2nd time since being at UNC that Roy Williams has not made the NCAA tourney. 

brewcity77

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 08, 2020, 08:01:12 PM
Roy Williams' worst team since being at UNC.

Don't think that qualifier is necessary.

Nukem2

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 08, 2020, 08:23:16 PM
Don't think that qualifier is necessary.
To be fair, injuries have been robbing Roy of a couple very important pieces.  These teams that depend on one and dones  or close to that depend just on that.  Way it goes. 

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 08, 2020, 08:23:16 PM
Don't think that qualifier is necessary.

What's Roy's record since he had to recruit kids who have to go class?

The Sultan

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 08, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
What's Roy's record since he had to recruit kids who have to go class?

IDK but includes a national championship and national runner up.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: Nukem2 on January 08, 2020, 08:27:45 PM
To be fair, injuries have been robbing Roy of a couple very important pieces.  These teams that depend on one and dones  or close to that depend just on that.  Way it goes.
Wait a minute.....

With all the advantages of simply being a blue blood your cutting Roy some slack due to injuries?

To be fair.... It is a valid reason for a team to struggle. Especially at the end of a long year in the BEast

CountryRoads

Oops. Badgers blow a late lead at home and lose to Illinois by 1.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: AirPunch on January 08, 2020, 10:18:18 PM
Oops. Badgers blow a late lead at home and lose to Illinois by 1.

How many slams did  Cockburn have for the Illini?

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: AirPunch on January 08, 2020, 10:18:18 PM
Oops. Badgers blow a late lead at home and lose to Illinois by 1.
Crying shame, it is.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

war1980rior

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 08, 2020, 08:39:39 PM
What's Roy's record since he had to recruit kids who have to go class?

Nice one Dr. B!  I had a good laugh on that one.  Time to call my UNC buds and use that on them. 

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