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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #450 on: January 09, 2020, 12:44:51 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2020, 08:50:19 PM
The system and overall rankings they use. The A/B classification is nowhere on the team sheets. It's meaningless.

That was my reaction to Chicos' post initially as well.. but, I think it may be relevant. We need to ax questions of the committee...

Indeed, it's irrelevant to the team sheet... but, folks I believe can use whatever they wish... tarot cards, etc... if that's useful information to them.

To think that some* (and I'm positive not all, but maybe* some) look at kenpom's site and do look at A/B games when selecting and seeding teams doesn't seem that far fetched to me.

So, I'd say... there may be some relevance to A/B kenpom classifications when it comes to tourney selection time... probably not much tho.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #451 on: January 09, 2020, 01:16:48 PM »
I think when it comes to amateur bracketologists, they have meaning, especially before the first round of NET and Team Sheets, but once we get to Selection Sunday, I don't think anyone in that room is focusing on kenpom's A/B classification when they have the Quadrants in front of them.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #452 on: January 09, 2020, 08:03:59 PM »
Purdue Michigan almost seems to be ending exactly like MU prov
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #453 on: January 09, 2020, 08:06:29 PM »
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 09, 2020, 08:03:59 PM
Purdue Michigan almost seems to be ending exactly like MU prov

What channel is that on?

Big Ten Network by me has Women's bball on.

Memphis down by 7 with 3 min to go.  was down by 19 at Wich St.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #454 on: January 09, 2020, 08:13:25 PM »
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #455 on: January 09, 2020, 08:24:49 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2020, 08:50:19 PM
The system and overall rankings they use. The A/B classification is nowhere on the team sheets. It's meaningless.

With all due respect I would suggest reading what committee members have said over the years.  I have been friends with two people that have served on the committee at various points over the years, both are conference commissioners.  There are a bunch of materials provided to the committee members.  They are also allowed to bring their own materials, or at least were....I would have to confirm.

My point is that things shift and individual committee members sometimes do gut feel / old school while others are heavy into the various data options.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #456 on: January 10, 2020, 09:38:13 PM »
Down goes Maryland.

There are truly no elite teams this year. MU gets in with a 10 seed and wins two games is the most unlikely - likely thing ever this year.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #457 on: January 11, 2020, 02:45:28 PM »
Ohio State loses fourth straight....I thought only Wojo did that when his teams are ranked.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #458 on: January 11, 2020, 04:55:39 PM »
Ok, not a surprise. Syracuse and Virginia tied at 39 point with 3 minutes left in the game. Shootout.
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« Reply #459 on: January 11, 2020, 05:46:36 PM »
Clemson down by 10 at halftime, win in overtime at North Carolina. First ever win at UNC.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #460 on: January 11, 2020, 05:49:36 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 11, 2020, 05:46:36 PM
Clemson down by 10 at halftime, win in overtime at North Carolina. First ever win at UNC.
Wojo to UNC!! ;)
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #461 on: January 11, 2020, 05:50:50 PM »
Wisconsin beats Penn st. Big ten has 5 road wins in conference play and they have 2 of them. Wish we could win on the road.
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« Reply #462 on: January 12, 2020, 12:56:20 PM »
Purdue up 71-42 late on Michigan State on CBS.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #463 on: January 12, 2020, 01:01:41 PM »
Quote from: HowardsWorld on January 11, 2020, 05:50:50 PM
Wisconsin beats Penn st. Big ten has 5 road wins in conference play and they have 2 of them. Wish we could win on the road.

Wish we could beat Purdue....
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #464 on: January 12, 2020, 01:07:06 PM »
Quote from: Cheeks on January 12, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
Wish we could beat Purdue....


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« Reply #465 on: January 12, 2020, 01:25:47 PM »
UConn hits a three to tie. No foul up by three by Wichita State. 9-0 run by UConn to force OT. Games on CBSSN.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #466 on: January 12, 2020, 01:35:47 PM »
Quote from: Cheeks on January 12, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
Wish we could beat Purdue....

Very helpful. I'll remember the Purdue win fondly as we're hoping for a game at the Al in the NIT.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #467 on: January 12, 2020, 02:01:08 PM »
Quote from: Oldgym on January 12, 2020, 01:35:47 PM
Very helpful. I'll remember the Purdue win fondly as we're hoping for a game at the Al in the NIT.

OK, you do that.
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« Reply #468 on: January 12, 2020, 04:27:32 PM »
South Florida leads #21 Memphis, 51-37 on ESPN2.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #469 on: January 12, 2020, 05:23:36 PM »
MU is in 9th place in BEast, only ahead of DePaul which will change when they kick Wojos ass.
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Re: Upsets! / Surprise results.
« Reply #470 on: January 12, 2020, 05:28:27 PM »
Quote from: willie warrior on January 12, 2020, 05:23:36 PM
MU is in 9th place in BEast, only ahead of DePaul which will change when they kick Wojos ass.

We are in 6th place....nice lie again, Willie.
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« Reply #471 on: January 12, 2020, 07:08:43 PM »
Quote from: Cheeks on January 12, 2020, 05:28:27 PM
We are in 6th place....nice lie again, Willie.
Seriously? Out of ten teams only one has a worse record. We are both 6th and 9th.
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« Reply #472 on: January 12, 2020, 07:12:48 PM »
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 12, 2020, 07:08:43 PM
Seriously? Out of ten teams only one has a worse record. We are both 6th and 9th.

You didn’t take sports as a young man, did you....or your male card was revoked.

We are tied for 6th.  That’s how it works.  You aren’t in 6th and 9th...we are tied for 6th.  DePaul is 10th. You don’t get to make up new rules now that no one in sports recognizes.   

It also means nothing at this time of year because some teams have played tougher conference schedules than others have....but whatever fits your agenda.
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« Reply #473 on: January 12, 2020, 07:17:57 PM »
Okay. Fair enough. We are 6th.

We are in serious jeopardy of  missing the Tourney and maybe looking for a new coach, agreed or your male card will be revoked?
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« Reply #474 on: January 12, 2020, 07:26:22 PM »
how does ohio state go into yesterdays game ranked 11th being 1-3 in big ten(now 1-4) with a 2-4 record over previous 6 games(now 2-5)?  yes, they have some big wins, but those were a long time ago now
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