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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #125 on: September 05, 2019, 08:47:23 PM »
Fookin' tired of this white privilege bullchit. Everyone comes out of someone's vagina. Then, it's on you as to how the final chapter is written. Quit looking for a handout.

What about c-sections?  These poor pricks dont get to experience the vag until high school or college.

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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #126 on: September 05, 2019, 08:49:25 PM »
Moore like middle school, aina?
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #127 on: September 05, 2019, 08:50:14 PM »
Then you are as ignorant as you are privileged. And yes, your whiteness is part of that privilege, just as mine is for me.

5 times the median household income is super DUPER rich. Looking through the lens of an incredibly expensive part of the country to live in ignores the 99% of the country with a vastly lower cost of living. Have those medical expenses bankrupted you yet? Have you been evicted or forced to move because of it. Have you had to decide between a medication and food? If the answer is no, then again you need to check your privilege at the door.

For the majority of this country, $120,000+ would be considered super-DUPER-rich. It is the kind of rich that would eliminate all their debt and financial woes in a few years. Median income is around $60,000, median debt is around $137,000. In a vacuum, doubling that median income would allow those households to eliminate that debt in under 5 years. Going from underwater in debt to debt-free in 5 years is life-changing.

Sorry, you might like to think of yourself as some working class hero, some champion of the underdog, but I strongly suspect the reason you are fighting this losing battle so hard is because you are part of the super-DUPER-rich that you are claiming are somehow vastly more wealthy than you without realizing you are yourself vastly more wealthy than the majority of this country. I know, mirrors are tough to look into.

So you are saying you are super duper rich then, eh Lieutenant?

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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #128 on: September 05, 2019, 08:55:41 PM »
Ohh..kay swing and a ...

You don’t understand the concept of privilege?
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #129 on: September 05, 2019, 09:28:12 PM »
Fookin' tired of this white privilege bullchit. Everyone comes out of someone's vagina. Then, it's on you as to how the final chapter is written. Quit looking for a handout.

You forgot the teal.

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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #130 on: September 05, 2019, 09:29:14 PM »
Fookin' tired of this white privilege bullchit. Everyone comes out of someone's vagina. Then, it's on you as to how the final chapter is written. Quit looking for a handout.

You should read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell

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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #131 on: September 05, 2019, 09:37:28 PM »
I don’t think he said white privilege. (Correct me if I’m wrong.) He simply said that his privilege was biasing his view.

here ya go fluffy monster-i didn't say anything about blue though, eyn'er?

   "Then you are as ignorant as you are privileged. And yes, your whiteness is part of that privilege, just as mine is for me."

don't...don't don't don't don't

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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #132 on: September 05, 2019, 09:40:24 PM »
here ya go fluffy monster-i didn't say anything about blue though, eyn'er?

   "Then you are as ignorant as you are privileged. And yes, your whiteness is part of that privilege, just as mine is for me."

Gotcha. I just couldnt find it. That’s not calling him a racist though. But that’s not what this topic is about anyway.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #133 on: September 05, 2019, 10:09:16 PM »
I don’t think he said white privilege. (Correct me if I’m wrong.) He simply said that his privilege was biasing his view.

He has dropped white privilege attacks in the past.  I love the privilege argument from a govt employee who will be raking it in for the next 40 years.  Amazing, truly amazing....we should all be so challenged and unprivileged.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #134 on: September 05, 2019, 10:09:18 PM »
here ya go fluffy monster-i didn't say anything about blue though, eyn'er?

   "Then you are as ignorant as you are privileged. And yes, your whiteness is part of that privilege, just as mine is for me."

Predictably, you latched on to my words and ignored that Chicos was the one who brought white privilege into the discussion. I was speaking about the privilege of wealth, he decided to make it about race:

We all go through our personal lenses.  Super duper rich equates to ultra rich, and that amount of money to equate that is absurd.  A family of four living on $300k in a place like California is not super duper rich.  It’s absurd.  You are guilty of exactly what you are preaching against.  You don’t live in SF, or LA, or NYC, etc where people would laugh you out of the room to say super duper rich....because it is an absurd statement.  I guess I have to be pretty privileged in order to have a child with massive medical expenses each year, a wife as well....privileged...yup....and don’t forget the white part.  Sorry, $300k is not super duper rich.  If it is, what is a millionaire.....super super super duper duper duper rich.  The absurdity is awesome.

So sure, I'll acknowledge that race plays a part, as he himself stated accurately.

In America rit large and Milwaukee, the $300,000 figure we are talking about is 5x the median income. In LA, it's 4x the median income. In Seattle it's 3x the median income.

The point stands that compared to the average household wealth in the vast majority of this country, with possibly few exceptions in uber-rich communities but absolutely NOT in any of the communities mentioned in this thread, a single individual with one job making 3-5 times the income of a multi-income family (often with members of said family having multiple jobs) is really effing rich. Or super, or super-duper, or supercalifragilisticexpialidocious rich.

Chicos was wrong about that and is incapable of admitting when he is wrong, so here we are, with you trying to play the injured race card without recognizing that he was the one to introduce it to the conversation.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #135 on: September 05, 2019, 10:11:36 PM »
Predictably, you latched on to my words and ignored that Chicos was the one who brought white privilege into the discussion. I was speaking about the privilege of wealth, he decided to make it about race:

So sure, I'll acknowledge that race plays a part, as he himself stated accurately.

In America rit large and Milwaukee, the $300,000 figure we are talking about is 5x the median income. In LA, it's 4x the median income. In Seattle it's 3x the median income.

The point stands that compared to the average household wealth in the vast majority of this country, with possibly few exceptions in uber-rich communities but absolutely NOT in any of the communities mentioned in this thread, a single individual with one job making 3-5 times the income of a multi-income family (often with members of said family having multiple jobs) is really effing rich. Or super, or super-duper, or supercalifragilisticexpialidocious rich.

Chicos was wrong about that and is incapable of admitting when he is wrong, so here we are, with you trying to play the injured race card without recognizing that he was the one to introduce it to the conversation.

LOL, because in the past you have dropped the white bullchit multiple times, and I being the sensitive man was reminding you not to forget it this time, because you certainly haven’t in the past.

Super duper rich.....I hope that makes the meme tournament.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #136 on: September 05, 2019, 10:13:40 PM »
So you are saying you are super duper rich then, eh Lieutenant?

Yes. Both rich and privileged, in many ways.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #137 on: September 05, 2019, 10:13:56 PM »
$300 large in Seattle isn't rich. Public school teachers with 20 years here make $150 and they struggle.

$300 is probably comfortable in WI but it's nothing in urban west coast.

Yes, I know....but to certain people here apparently it is not only rich, not only super rich, but super duper rich.   But yes, I know as you do that $300k isn’t rich or even close.  Once again people have no idea definition of words and when I ask if $300K is super duper rich, what then is a million or a billion.....crickets.   They are laughable.
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« Reply #138 on: September 05, 2019, 10:15:11 PM »
We've reached the "Unhinged Cheeks rambles" portion of the program.
And all because you made a misleading post about D1 head coaching salaries and can't admit you made a mistake.

Nothing was misleading, you are just upset that an academic messed up again and was called out on it.  My post wasn’t misleading.
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« Reply #139 on: September 05, 2019, 10:17:17 PM »
Brew might as well have called cheeks a racist too. White privilege is the new conversation stopper when ya run out of smart stuff. Pretty weak brew

Oh he’s done that, too.  It’s the playbook of one side and most of the country knows it at this point.  Don’t agree with someone, just level the charge.  Have success in your life....you didn’t do it, you didn’t build it...it is because you are a dude...a white dude....and on and on the drum beat goes.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #140 on: September 05, 2019, 10:18:41 PM »
Arguing with people who deny the existence of privilege is about as worthwhile as arguing with people who deny climate change, which is about as worthwhile as arguing with Sandy Hook and 9/11 truthers.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #141 on: September 05, 2019, 10:36:47 PM »
Oh he’s done that, too.  It’s the playbook of one side and most of the country knows it at this point.  Don’t agree with someone, just level the charge.  Have success in your life....you didn’t do it, you didn’t build it...it is because you are a dude...a white dude....and on and on the drum beat goes.

So you introduce your own whiteness into the thread then play victim because I acknowledged it? There's nothing wrong with acknowledging ones own privilege. Frankly, it's a healthy way to understand the people you share the planet with.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #142 on: September 05, 2019, 10:56:49 PM »
So you introduce your own whiteness into the thread then play victim because I acknowledged it? There's nothing wrong with acknowledging ones own privilege. Frankly, it's a healthy way to understand the people you share the planet with.

I’m going to let you in on a little secret.  I don’t give a damn if you are white, black, Asian, whatever. I’m happy for you and others in what they are able to achieve in life.  Sometimes people are really lucky, sometimes they get screwed, and often times it is because someone got a break and made the most of it.   If you want to run around talking about your privilege that is your own damn business, but don’t you dare throw it down my throat or anyone else’s when you know nothing of their status in life, how they got there or what their path was.  Don’t pretend to know how anyone achieved what they did or the journey they took.  If you want to undersell your path, knock your socks off....don’t do it to anyone else.
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #143 on: September 05, 2019, 11:52:22 PM »
I'm not even sure what the argument on this thread is all about. Pretty sure it's got nothing whatsoever to do with Marquette basketball. But who's counting? A few quick facts about annual household income:

90th percentile
If your household income before taxes is $180,000 or more, you rank among the top 10% in the United States. In other words, you make more per year than 9 out of 10 American households.

95th percentile
If your household income is $250,000 or more, you rank among the top 5% in the U.S. That means you earn more per year than 19 out of 20 American households. Getting into very select company, whatever you call it.

99th percentile
If your household income is $440,000 or more, you rank among the top 1% in the United States. Meaning, you earn more per year than 99 out of 100 Americans.

These numbers are based on the latest available data from 2017. A new report with 2018 data is due later this month.

Attaching labels to those income groupings is where things can start to go off the rails. Economists can't even agree on a universal definition of "middle class" or "upper middle class" -- so deciding what income level represents "super duper rich" is open to interpretation. But $300,000 is well beyond what's typically defined as "upper middle class." Can we agree on that?
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Re: Well that was a waste
« Reply #144 on: September 05, 2019, 11:59:17 PM »
I'm not even sure what the argument on this thread is all about. Pretty sure it's got nothing whatsoever to do with Marquette basketball. But who's counting? A few quick facts about annual household income:

90th percentile
If your household income before taxes is $180,000 or more, you rank among the top 10% in the United States. In other words, you make more per year than 9 out of 10 American households.

95th percentile
If your household income is $250,000 or more, you rank among the top 5% in the U.S. That means you earn more per year than 19 out of 20 American households. Getting into very select company, whatever you call it.

99th percentile
If your household income is $440,000 or more, you rank among the top 1% in the United States. Meaning, you earn more per year than 99 out of 100 Americans.

These numbers are based on the latest available data from 2017. A new report with 2018 data is due later this month.

Attaching labels to those income groupings is where things can start to go off the rails. Economists can't even agree on a universal definition of "middle class" or "upper middle class" -- so deciding what income level represents "super duper rich" is open to interpretation. But $300,000 is well beyond what's typically defined as "upper middle class." Can we agree on that?

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« Reply #145 on: September 06, 2019, 01:04:33 AM »
Yes, I know....but to certain people here apparently it is not only rich, not only super rich, but super duper rich.   But yes, I know as you do that $300k isn’t rich or even close.  Once again people have no idea definition of words and when I ask if $300K is super duper rich, what then is a million or a billion.....crickets.   They are laughable.

A quick google search tells me that the median household income in Seattle is $100,630. So those who make $300K are making just under 3X that. I consider anyone making 3X more than most people in their region to be super duper rich. I also consider those making millions or billions to be super duper rich. As you don't seem to realize, super duper rich isn't a scientific term, it can mean different things to different people.

Also, my guess is that Mike Hopkins and Jim Hayford are making more than $300K  ;)
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« Reply #146 on: September 06, 2019, 01:08:23 AM »
I’m going to let you in on a little secret.  I don’t give a damn if you are white, black, Asian, whatever. I’m happy for you and others in what they are able to achieve in life. Sometimes people are really lucky, sometimes they get screwed, and often times it is because someone got a break and made the most of it.   If you want to run around talking about your privilege that is your own damn business, but don’t you dare throw it down my throat or anyone else’s when you know nothing of their status in life, how they got there or what their path was.  Don’t pretend to know how anyone achieved what they did or the journey they took.  If you want to undersell your path, knock your socks off....don’t do it to anyone else.

And when these things happen because of something you have no control over (your race, your sex, your sexual orientation, the household you were born into, etc) that is called privilege. It doesn't "undersell" your accomplishments, it's just a part of life. There's no harm in acknowledging it.
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« Reply #147 on: September 06, 2019, 01:25:07 AM »
As a private university, Seattle doesn't disclose the terms of its contract with head coach Jim Hayford.

But Mike Hopkins signed a 6-year, $12.3 million deal to become the head coach of the Washington Huskies in 2017. Terms included $1.8 million in salary his first year, increasing by $100,000 each following year.

So, yes, more than $300,000.

https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/college/university-of-washington/huskies-insider-blog/article140131188.html
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« Reply #148 on: September 06, 2019, 05:10:28 AM »
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