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Buzz

Started by tower912, August 18, 2019, 02:16:12 PM

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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Pakuni on August 20, 2019, 09:56:56 AM
Well, what he had that year were two future NBA first-round picks and two other guys who would go on the play in the NBA.
Buzz did a great job that year and all, but let's not overlook the fact that the team - while absolutely lacking size and depth - was plenty talented.
And let's not forget that Lazar was forced to play in the post because Buzz's plan to backup the injury-prone Chris Otule was Youssoupha Mbao.


Actually Buzz's first back-up plan was Liam McMorrow, but he had the medical issues.  Then his second back-up plan was Jeronne Maymon, who's dad wanted no part of that plan.

Yous was a late addition who signed just before the news on Liam came out. 
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Lennys Tap


#UnleashSean

Quote from: Pakuni on August 20, 2019, 09:56:56 AM

And let's not forget that Lazar was forced to play in the post because Buzz's plan to backup the injury-prone Chris Otule was Youssoupha Mbao.

Well, no.

Pakuni

Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 20, 2019, 01:41:40 PM
Well, no.

Well, yes.
The staff knew about McMorrow's health condition in the spring before that season. Knowing he couldn't play, they went out and signed Mbao.

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MU82

Was on the road and just got back to read responses to my post about Buzz tipping poorly.

I have absolutely no reason to believe the young woman who told me this was lying. She had absolutely no motive to lie. None. We were having a discussion, and she told me what happened.

She told me that BWW (at least the one in Blacksburg) does not have a minimum tipping requirement for a large party. I was surprised by that.

I have no idea if VaTech restricted the amount university employees could tip in such a situation, but if it did ... 10%? Really? And given that Buzz makes upwards of $3M and always paints himself as a friend of "average Joe," why wouldn't he reach into his pocket to leave a legit tip if that were the policy?

Again, unlike some Scoopers, I am a big fan of what Buzz accomplished as Marquette's coach. I LOVED watching his teams play most years, I went to the Elite 8 round in DC, and I was disappointed when he left because I thought he was an outstanding coach.

He obviously is a bad tipper, though, or at least he was that day.

The one out I will give him is that maybe he's just bad at math, or at least he was that day. It happens. I certainly don't doubt what the young woman told me is 100% true.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

#UnleashSean

Quote from: MU82 on August 20, 2019, 06:18:44 PM
Was on the road and just got back to read responses to my post about Buzz tipping poorly.

I have absolutely no reason to believe the young woman who told me this was lying. She had absolutely no motive to lie. None. We were having a discussion, and she told me what happened.

She told me that BWW (at least the one in Blacksburg) does not have a minimum tipping requirement for a large party. I was surprised by that.

I have no idea if VaTech restricted the amount university employees could tip in such a situation, but if it did ... 10%? Really? And given that Buzz makes upwards of $3M and always paints himself as a friend of "average Joe," why wouldn't he reach into his pocket to leave a legit tip if that were the policy?

Again, unlike some Scoopers, I am a big fan of what Buzz accomplished as Marquette's coach. I LOVED watching his teams play most years, I went to the Elite 8 round in DC, and I was disappointed when he left because I thought he was an outstanding coach.

He obviously is a bad tipper, though, or at least he was that day.

The one out I will give him is that maybe he's just bad at math, or at least he was that day. It happens. I certainly don't doubt what the young woman told me is 100% true.

Maybe she was a bad waitress. Or was one of say 4. The biggest question I have on that is what kind of establishment sends one person to wait on 20+ people. Something isn't adding up

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Pakuni on August 20, 2019, 01:46:36 PM
Well, yes.
The staff knew about McMorrow's health condition in the spring before that season. Knowing he couldn't play, they went out and signed Mbao.

So they found out about mcmorrows health issues in the spring, when nearly every good center was locked up? Damn. If that's your case against buzz you should crucify wojo every post.

Mutaman

Quote from: Cheeks on August 20, 2019, 08:52:12 AM
Cut bait and go with the win at all costs, rules be damned, you ain't trying if you ain't cheating crowd...you will be way more happy.

Could we have some examples of how Williams "cheated" and what rules he broke?

Silent Verbal

Quote from: Mutaman on August 20, 2019, 08:02:09 PM
Could we have some examples of how Williams "cheated" and what rules he broke?

Ha!  As John Wayne and Buddy Holly said, "That'll be the day."

Mutaman

Quote from: Research Report on August 20, 2019, 08:47:12 PM
Ha!  As John Wayne and Buddy Holly said, "That'll be the day."

The Searchers is to American cinema what Not Fade Away is to Ameircan music.

MU82

Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 20, 2019, 06:50:15 PM
Maybe she was a bad waitress. Or was one of say 4. The biggest question I have on that is what kind of establishment sends one person to wait on 20+ people. Something isn't adding up

So based on all the information you have, the obvious conclusion is that either she was lying or she was a bad waitress (or both)? It couldn't possibly have been that she had no motivation to lie, that she was telling the truth and that Buzz (for whatever reason) left a bad tip?

OK then.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on August 20, 2019, 09:44:38 PM
So based on all the information you have, the obvious conclusion is that either she was lying or she was a bad waitress (or both)? It couldn't possibly have been that she had no motivation to lie, that she was telling the truth and that Buzz (for whatever reason) left a bad tip?

OK then.

A party of six or more commands a 20% automatic tip at 97% of restaurants I frequent. I blame BWW.

Jon

Quote from: Mutaman on August 20, 2019, 09:09:05 PM
The Searchers is to American cinema what Not Fade Away is to Ameircan music.

The Searchers is pure, unadulterated crap

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/the-searchers-john-ford-john-wayne-mediocre-western/


Billy Hoyle

#64
Quote from: Jon on August 19, 2019, 02:56:57 PM
I was thinking the same thing.

Rick got dinged by the NCAA for buying dinners for his guys in the Marriott restaurant. Majerus argued, correctly, that the Marriott was his home. (As I understand, a coach having a kid over for dinner is NOT a violation of NCAA rules.)

Since Rick was busted for buying dinner for players how did Bert get away with this?

A - the rule has changed over time.

B - Rick did lots more than just buy dinner to get in trouble.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

Jon

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 20, 2019, 10:38:03 PM
A - the rule has changed over time.

B - Rick did lots more than just buy dinner to get in trouble.

I claim no knowledge of NCAA compliance issues. I have much more important issues to deal with.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 20, 2019, 06:50:15 PM
Maybe she was a bad waitress. Or was one of say 4. The biggest question I have on that is what kind of establishment sends one person to wait on 20+ people. Something isn't adding up

As someone who used to work at a BWW during summers in college, B dubs is absolutely the type of establishment who sends one waiter to cover a 20 person table.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Mutaman on August 20, 2019, 08:02:09 PM
Could we have some examples of how Williams "cheated" and what rules he broke?

There you go again, asking for facts. Be patient, shoes are about to drop. Cheeks promised.


Pakuni

Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 20, 2019, 06:51:19 PM
So they found out about mcmorrows health issues in the spring, when nearly every good center was locked up? Damn. If that's your case against buzz you should crucify wojo every post.

Oh, grow the eff up. Newsflash... not every minor criticism of Buzz is sacrilege, and not everything needs to be viewed through a Buzz vs Wojo lens.

And, no, not "every good center" was locked up before the spring signing period. Buzz chose Mbao and it was a poor recruiting decision. He made several of them, just like every other coach. It's OK to admit it.



Mutaman

Quote from: Jon on August 20, 2019, 10:25:50 PM
The Searchers is pure, unadulterated crap

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/the-searchers-john-ford-john-wayne-mediocre-western/

Who you going to believe , National Review (Are they still around) or the fellow who directed Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, and Good Fellows?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/review-martin-scorsese-searchers-426059

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I can't speak for other universities, but TAMU's policy is to only tip 10% when using university funds. As others have said, we are free to tip more on our own dime. I'll be honest, I never have. Though I've never taken more than 2 or 3 people out to a meal at a time.

To be clear, I'm speaking about my employer, not myself in the 3rd person.
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TAMU

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MU82

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 20, 2019, 10:53:42 PM
As someone who used to work at a BWW during summers in college, B dubs is absolutely the type of establishment who sends one waiter to cover a 20 person table.

Don't let facts enter into this, CSFR. Much better for folks to accept as truth what they think should be true.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 21, 2019, 12:24:51 AM
I can't speak for other universities, but TAMU's policy is to only tip 10% when using university funds. As others have said, we are free to tip more on our own dime. I'll be honest, I never have. Though I've never taken more than 2 or 3 people out to a meal at a time.

To be clear, I'm speaking about my employer, not myself in the 3rd person.

So when you take people out on the company dime, you feel fine only leaving your server -- who probably makes $3/hour -- a 10% tip?

If how I'm reading that is right, TAMU, I'm quite shocked by it.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

StillAWarrior

#72
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 20, 2019, 06:50:15 PM
The biggest question I have on that is what kind of establishment sends one person to wait on 20+ people.

Over the years with countless team meals (often 20+ people), I can say that our best experiences typically were at restaurants who assigned one server to deal with the entire group and didn't have any other tables.  It's the equivalent of having 5-6 tables (which isn't that uncommon).  It was almost always much better than when we had multiple servers who were also responsible for other tables at the same time.  I'd rather have one dedicated server who is accountable for the table than a handful of servers who have other responsibilities and assume someone else will take care of things.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jon on August 20, 2019, 10:50:14 PM
I claim no knowledge of NCAA compliance issues. I have much more important issues to deal with.

"I am going to speak as though I have the ultimate knowledge on the subject, and then when told I am wrong I am going to tell everyone how important my time is and I don't care about the details to which I just spoke out from the mountaintops."

Quote from: StillAWarrior on August 21, 2019, 08:02:18 AM
Over the years with countless team meals (often 20+ people), I can say that our best experiences typically were at restaurants who assigned one server to deal with the entire group and didn't have any other tables.  It's the equivalent of having 5-6 tables (which isn't that uncommon).  It was almost always much better than when we had multiple servers who were also responsible for other tables at the same time.  I'd rather have one dedicated server who is accountable for the table than a handful of servers who have other responsibilities and assume someone else will take care of things.

Agreed.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: MU82 on August 21, 2019, 07:48:24 AM
Don't let facts enter into this, CSFR. Much better for folks to accept as truth what they think should be true.

I don't think people were asserting the story was false, but that MAYBE she either didn't tell the whole story or embellished it a little.  No need to be defensive about it.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.