New NCAA policy regarding agents & "testing the waters"

[Pakuni]

No worries. I was honestly trying to see how these changes are in any way harmful to the athlete. I honestly can't see any way they are. I also find them the most beneficial to the athlete of any NCAA agent/advisor rules.

I enjoyed the discussion. Hope you have a wonderful day.

Thanks! Appreciate the back-and-forth.

[The Sultan]

Rumor has it Marquette is a member of the association and a member.  Feel free to play the alumni card, refuse to donate, picket, whatever is appropriate so this grave injustice of requiring a college degree for this certification is overturned.

Thanks. You have offered this advice before.

[WhiteTrash]

I have to say, in general, discussing the NCAA's requirements for agents of potential/future NBA players feels like discussing the tax rules for luxury yachts. While there may be merritts behind agreeing or disagreeing with the NCAA's or IRS's positions, it's really of no consequence to everyone on this board or most everyone in this county.

MU Rah Rah!!

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I have to say, in general, discussing the NCAA's requirements for agents of potential/future NBA players feels like discussing the tax rules for luxury yachts. While there may be merritts behind agreeing or disagreeing with the NCAA's or IRS's positions, it's really of no consequence to everyone on this board or most everyone in this county.

MU Rah Rah!!

That kind of attitude will never help us finally determine who is 'right'.

[lawdog77]

Let them all earn outside income.

they really would need to hire an agent for this

[Newsdreams]

Well the POTUS has a degree....
Arby's!!!

[Cheeks]

Well the POTUS has a degree....
Arby's!!!

Politics

[Newsdreams]

Politics

Lol

[WhiteTrash]

That kind of attitude will never help us finally determine who is 'right'.

LOL! My bad.

[jesmu84]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/rich-paul-finally-claps-back-at-the-ncaa-over-their-pathetic-rich-paul-rule

Also, check out Rich Paul's article in The Athletic

Here: https://theathletic.com/1128759/2019/08/12/op-ed-rich-paul-on-the-ncaas-new-restrictions-for-player-agents/

[WhiteTrash]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/rich-paul-finally-claps-back-at-the-ncaa-over-their-pathetic-rich-paul-rule

Also, check out Rich Paul's article in The Athletic

I am neither in favor of or opposed to the NCAA's new requirements because they do not effect me or anyone I care about or any portion of my life and it is not a social justice issue.

That said, that op-ed article above is garbage and any point the author was trying to make was lost in the juvenile rhetoric and misplaced angst.

Perhaps someone will present a factual, well researched and intellectually honest opinion (and without name calling) on the topic that will sway my opinion someday.

[WhiteTrash]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/rich-paul-finally-claps-back-at-the-ncaa-over-their-pathetic-rich-paul-rule

Also, check out Rich Paul's article in The Athletic

Hey Wade, the race card has been played. See above.

[Pakuni]

NCAA reverses course, won't require a degree for agents.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-amends-agent-certification-requirements

So, does this mean the NCAA no longer cares about protecting athletes ... since that (wink wink) was the real reason for this rule?

[Pakuni]

Hey Wade, the race card has been played. See above.

Did you read Rich Paul's op-ed? At no point does he do anything close to play the race card.

[The Sultan]

That said, that op-ed article above is garbage and any point the author was trying to make was lost in the juvenile rhetoric and misplaced angst.

It's Barstool.  I have no idea why anyone with any sense reads them or links to them.

[The Sultan]

NCAA reverses course, won't require a degree for agents.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-amends-agent-certification-requirements

So, does this mean the NCAA no longer cares about protecting athletes ... since that (wink wink) was the real reason for this rule?

Hilarious.  Clearly they didn't understand the NBPA's entire process and stepped on a rake yet again.  This is exactly what they should have done to start with.

[wadesworld]

NCAA reverses course, won't require a degree for agents.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-amends-agent-certification-requirements

So, does this mean the NCAA no longer cares about protecting athletes ... since that (wink wink) was the real reason for this rule?

But it wasn't a terrible rule and the people complaining about it just want to complain about anything the NCAA does and doesn't want athletes to get paid...

[Pakuni]

But it wasn't a terrible rule and the people complaining about it just want to complain about anything the NCAA does and doesn't want athletes to get paid...

It was a terrible rule, and context matters. At a time when the NCAA should be doing all it can to make the college route accessible and appealing to the best young athletes out there, it's bungling its way through unnecessary rules changes to make college less appealing.

[Uncle Rico]

It was a terrible rule, and context matters. At a time when the NCAA should be doing all it can to make the college route accessible and appealing to the best young athletes out there, it's bungling its way through unnecessary rules changes to make college less appealing.

Death to the NCAA

[wadesworld]

It was a terrible rule, and context matters. At a time when the NCAA should be doing all it can to make the college route accessible and appealing to the best young athletes out there, it's bungling its way through unnecessary rules changes to make college less appealing.

Agreed.  My comment was tongue in cheek.  A few people here were saying that people didn't even look at what the rule was there was just outrage to be outraged at the NCAA.

[WhiteTrash]

Did you read Rich Paul's op-ed? At no point does he do anything close to play the race card.

"See above" referred to the Barstool article (the link in the quoted section), not Rich Paul's op-ed (to which I have not seen a link). I did not make that clear.

[MUDPT]

Here is the article.  It's free, I think: https://theathletic.com/1128759/2019/08/12/op-ed-rich-paul-on-the-ncaas-new-restrictions-for-player-agents/

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Agreed.  My comment was tongue in cheek.  A few people here were saying that people didn't even look at what the rule was there was just outrage to be outraged at the NCAA.

So it makes it ok to just rail against the few?  Really it is a dumb rule — they doubled down with some holier than though stuff about college education — then folded within the week.  Both calling into question their initial motivation, the extent that it was truly well thought out and finally their commitment to their grandiose principles.

[wadesworld]

So it makes it ok to just rail against the few?  Really it is a dumb rule — they doubled down with some holier than though stuff about college education — then folded within the week.  Both calling into question their initial motivation, the extent that it was truly well thought out and finally their commitment to their grandiose principles.

Yeah.  The NCAA ends up with egg on their face after a decision.

Some more breaking news, the Pope is Catholic.

[MU82]

So it makes it ok to just rail against the few?  Really it is a dumb rule — they doubled down with some holier than though stuff about college education — then folded within the week.  Both calling into question their initial motivation, the extent that it was truly well thought out and finally their commitment to their grandiose principles.

Absolutely hilarious. Total capitulation. As Bugs Bunny woulda said, "What a bunch of maroons."

Especially love this:

According to a news release, the NCAA made the change after having "been made aware of several current agents who have appropriately represented former student-athletes in their professional quest" and were granted waivers of the NBPA's bachelor's degree requirement.

In other words, if anybody with even the experience of an intern had done the tiniest bit of homework -- or if NCAA muckety-mucks weren't totally about trying to make a statement about control -- they never would have even tried to enact a rule they'd have to back down on within days.