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brewcity77

Quote from: Herman Cain on July 03, 2019, 06:51:39 PMI am sure there are good quality young guys lining up for the MU job. I am not worried about who we will get.

I agree completely. Most likely, who we get will be an unfamiliar name. I didn't know who Stan nor Dwayne were, but both have done well. Only a small handful of assistants are known names, and is usually because they failed at a bigger job or are on the fast track to a head gig. I think Wojo has generally done well with assistants, I'm not too worried about this.

wadesworld

At this point in the game you could (and we probably will) do a lot worse than Jeter. A former D1 coach who should have relationships to some of the big time Minnesota guys we are recruiting. Maybe not the main recruiter for those guys but still someone I'd assume they've had a conversation with here or there.

4everwarriors

Watt makes y'all tink anywon butt an up and cummer is gonna wanna sit on da bench heer, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

muguru

Quote from: WarriorDad on July 03, 2019, 07:23:43 PM
Maybe a touch of exaggeration as I can think of 5 to 10 instances in the last 25 years.  There are probably more, but with so many Division 1 schools is it not the exception than the rule?

Sure, it's the exception, but i can't think of a single instance where it didn't get the desired result...getting the highly ranked brother etc. I mean Oklahoma State just hired Cade Cunningham's Brother...it will land them Cade which is exactly why they hired him. I'd do it too, and wish MU would.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 03, 2019, 07:52:39 PM
Watt makes y'all tink anywon butt an up and cummer is gonna wanna sit on da bench heer, hey?

Exactly. Jeter ain't leaving a Big 10 assistant job to come to MU. Baldwin isn't leaving a head coaching job. It's not going to be a recruits father or brother. Let's get real here.

Wojo just needs to make a solid hire. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 03, 2019, 08:50:22 PM
Exactly. Jeter ain't leaving a Big 10 assistant job to come to MU. Baldwin isn't leaving a head coaching job. It's not going to be a recruits father or brother. Let's get real here.

Wojo just needs to make a solid hire.

Yeah because Richard Pitino is so much more decorated than Wojo and Minnesota is so much better of a program than MU...

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on July 03, 2019, 08:52:45 PM
Yeah because Richard Pitino is so much more decorated than Wojo and Minnesota is so much better of a program than MU...

MU might be marginally better. That won't be enough.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
Sure, it's the exception, but i can't think of a single instance where it didn't get the desired result...getting the highly ranked brother etc. I mean Oklahoma State just hired Cade Cunningham's Brother...it will land them Cade which is exactly why they hired him. I'd do it too, and wish MU would.

The desired result is to build a solid program. Not to hire a guy who isn't otherwise qualified who can bring a one and done recruit in who then leaves in a year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Herman Cain

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 03, 2019, 07:52:39 PM
Watt makes y'all tink anywon butt an up and cummer is gonna wanna sit on da bench heer, hey?
120k  raise will do the trick
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 03, 2019, 07:52:39 PM
Watt makes y'all tink anywon butt an up and cummer is gonna wanna sit on da bench heer, hey?

Eye here itz bin awyle since u bin an up and cummer, yay Doc?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
Sure, it's the exception, but i can't think of a single instance where it didn't get the desired result...getting the highly ranked brother etc. I mean Oklahoma State just hired Cade Cunningham's Brother...it will land them Cade which is exactly why they hired him. I'd do it too, and wish MU would.

Wait.. earlier you said "everybody does it".. so which is it?

wildbill sb

“I’m working as hard as I can to get my life and my cash to run out at the same time. If I can just die after lunch Tuesday, everything will be perfect.”  - Doug Sanders, professional golfer

wildbill sb

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 11:05:17 AM
I'd see if John Scheyer is gettable. He'd be closer to home as well.

No, No, NO,No!  Trust me on that one.
“I’m working as hard as I can to get my life and my cash to run out at the same time. If I can just die after lunch Tuesday, everything will be perfect.”  - Doug Sanders, professional golfer

wildbill sb

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 03, 2019, 12:10:01 PM
Please no, my head may explode if that happened.
You got that right, bro!  OMG!! No, No.
“I’m working as hard as I can to get my life and my cash to run out at the same time. If I can just die after lunch Tuesday, everything will be perfect.”  - Doug Sanders, professional golfer

wadesworld


The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on July 03, 2019, 11:00:55 PM
What's Tracy Webster up to?

That may not be a bad thought. Probably need to do some looking into his time at Cal.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WarriorPride68

Let's bust Jerry Wainwright out of the nursing home

muguru

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 03, 2019, 09:03:44 PM
The desired result is to build a solid program. Not to hire a guy who isn't otherwise qualified who can bring a one and done recruit in who then leaves in a year.

Who said he wouldn't be qualified?? I said earlier, I'd do it IF he is qualified. But I'd find that guy that can bring you that recruit..because one leads to two, two leads to three, kids know kids they talk to each other. Look what Penny is doing at Memphis..sure, he's not a father of a recruit etc, but find someone with those kind of connections if possible, and of course do it legally(which I have no doubt Wojo would). You might as well play the game. It's an advantage, no doubt about that. Why should MU be any different than other schools that have done it?? In fact, I'd argue if they don't, they aren't taking advantage of a tool that's at their disposal, just as it is at everyone's disposal.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

The Sultan

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 11:42:20 PM
Who said he wouldn't be qualified?? I said earlier, I'd do it IF he is qualified. But I'd find that guy that can bring you that recruit..because one leads to two, two leads to three, kids know kids they talk to each other. Look what Penny is doing at Memphis..sure, he's not a father of a recruit etc, but find someone with those kind of connections if possible, and of course do it legally(which I have no doubt Wojo would). You might as well play the game. It's an advantage, no doubt about that. Why should MU be any different than other schools that have done it?? In fact, I'd argue if they don't, they aren't taking advantage of a tool that's at their disposal, just as it is at everyone's disposal.

But you were specifically saying a family member of a recruit. Now you are just saying a connected recruiter. Those really aren't the same thing.

I agree someone with Penny-like, and legal,recruiting connections would be ideal. But that's not what you were talking about earlier.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TedBaxter

Wojo is going to fill a spot to go out on the road starting a week from today and keep in mind, every other D1 school is planning their recruiting trips for next week.  Will it be an unemployed college coach, someone with professional ties or maybe the most logical, an in staff promotion of Rob Judson or Jake Pressuti as was suggested by a friend of mine.

I can hear it now if Wojo stays in house.  Everybody is an expert.
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Dr. Blackheart


genious expert

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
Sure, it's the exception, but i can't think of a single instance where it didn't get the desired result...getting the highly ranked brother etc. I mean Oklahoma State just hired Cade Cunningham's Brother...it will land them Cade which is exactly why they hired him. I'd do it too, and wish MU would.

SMU hiring Tyrese Maxey's dad didn't work out for them. This was just last year

WarriorDad

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
Sure, it's the exception, but i can't think of a single instance where it didn't get the desired result...getting the highly ranked brother etc. I mean Oklahoma State just hired Cade Cunningham's Brother...it will land them Cade which is exactly why they hired him. I'd do it too, and wish MU would.

This is why members here are sometimes confused by you.  In the beginning of this topic you said every program does this, and now you agree it is the exception.  Those are two very different constructs.

Do you think there may be some confirmation bias in your conclusions?  You hear or read where it worked, but you don't often hear where it doesn't.  Will Baldwin's son go to UWM?  Was part of his hiring in the hopes that he would play for dad? 
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

mileskishnish72

Quote from: MU82 on July 03, 2019, 09:35:29 PM
Eye here itz bin awyle since u bin an up and cummer, yay Doc?

C'mon, 82, don't encourage him.

Herman Cain

Brett will at least have a similar fight song at Holy Cross. A certain MU supporter points it out in the footnotes.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Lz6-elbsY

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"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

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