Author Topic: Brett Nelson named head coach at Holy Cross (Read 27218 times)

wadesworld · « **Reply #25 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:00:59 AM »

Quote from: Pakuni on July 03, 2019, 09:35:39 AM

Baldwin earns $350K and has a $700K buyout.
So, I guess the question is, is it worth it for MU to pay $1.1 million-ish this year and about $400K a year going forward for a one-and-done? That's way above adidas' rate.

Yes.

He's already a D1 head coach, so it's not like he's some completely useless mind in terms of basketball. He just happens to have a future NBA player as a son.

tower912 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:23:38 AM »

Timing is not great and it hurts MU a little. However, cannot pass on this kind of opportunity. Congratulations and good luck, Brett.

brewcity77 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:24:25 AM »

Quote from: wadesworld on July 03, 2019, 10:00:59 AM

Yes.

He's already a D1 head coach, so it's not like he's some completely useless mind in terms of basketball. He just happens to have a future NBA player as a son.

This should be the first call. Baldwin is a legit coach, so it's not like wasting a spot on someone you'll release after their kid leaves. And landing the potential #1 recruit in 2021 & #1 NBA pick in 2022 would be worth far more than the $1.2M it would probably cost to get him here.

CountryRoads · « **Reply #28 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:35:03 AM »

Quote from: wadesworld on July 03, 2019, 10:00:59 AM

Yes.

He's already a D1 head coach, so it's not like he's some completely useless mind in terms of basketball. He just happens to have a future NBA player as a son.

Unless Baldwin feels he is about to be fired, why would an active D1 coach voluntarily leave his position to become an assistant under Wojo?

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #29 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:38:25 AM »

Quote from: AirPunch on July 03, 2019, 10:35:03 AM

Unless Baldwin feels he is about to be fired, why would an active D1 coach voluntarily leave his position to become an assistant under Wojo?

It does happen. Buzz left being a head coach to be an assistant. The head coach of north Dakota left to be an assistant at Illinois state this summer iirc.

That being said, I don't think there's any evidence to suggest that either party is interested here

Loose Cannon · « **Reply #30 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:39:30 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 03, 2019, 08:50:42 AM

Hire Dave Hauser

brewcity77 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:50:47 AM »

Quote from: AirPunch on July 03, 2019, 10:35:03 AM

Unless Baldwin feels he is about to be fired, why would an active D1 coach voluntarily leave his position to become an assistant under Wojo?

Let's say he's making $350,000 per year. Marquette offers him $500,000 per year to be an assistant. That would certainly be high, but I believe around what they were paying Isaac Chew when they added him. So you are offering him more than a 40% pay raise for less responsibility and working at a more prestigious basketball program than he's ever worked at before (sorry, Northwestern).

He's a legit assistant, so as long as Marquette doesn't tank under Wojo, he would be able to seek out a new HC job in 3 years while commanding a higher salary when he does. In addition, it's job security. He likely can't afford too many more 9-22 seasons at UW-Milwaukee and after losing 2 senior starters this year and having 4 set to graduate next year, a soft landing might be appealing. And if everything worked out really well, he'd be in prime position to interview for Marquette if Wojo left in the next few years.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #32 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:54:34 AM »

Nah man, dat ain't happen'ng. Da dude's a D-1 head coach. He's knot sittin' next ta Woj ta bee his lackey, hey?

brewcity77 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:02:53 AM »

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 03, 2019, 10:54:34 AM

Nah man, dat ain't happen'ng. Da dude's a D-1 head coach. He's knot sittin' next ta Woj ta bee his lackey, hey?

Just like Buzz, a D1 head coach, would never sit next to Crean to be his lackey?

muguru · « **Reply #34 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:05:17 AM »

I'd see if John Scheyer is gettable. He'd be closer to home as well.

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #35 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:18:28 AM »

Ummm...Rob Judson

asdfasdf · « **Reply #36 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:22:55 AM »

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 03, 2019, 10:38:25 AM

It does happen. Buzz left being a head coach to be an assistant. The head coach of north Dakota left to be an assistant at Illinois state this summer iirc.

That being said, I don't think there's any evidence to suggest that either party is interested here

The Northern Arizona coach, Jack Murphy, resigned this summer to take a job as Associate Head Coach at Arizona. MU connection there is that he is now coaching alongside Justin Gainey, and replaced Mark Phelps.

muguru · « **Reply #37 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:25:31 AM »

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 03, 2019, 11:18:28 AM

Ummm...Rob Judson

LOL No...no offense Doc, but I'd like to think MU could do better than Judson. I know he's already on staff, but still. Don't think he's much of a recruiter.

Pakuni · « **Reply #38 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:30:32 AM »

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 11:25:31 AM

LOL No...no offense Doc, but I'd like to think MU could do better than Judson. I know he's already on staff, but still. Don't think he's much of a recruiter.

Lon Kruger and Bill Self would disagree. He was their top recruiter at Illinois, especially for in-state players, back when the Illini kept most of the top players in state.

muguru · « **Reply #39 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:34:15 AM »

Quote from: Pakuni on July 03, 2019, 11:30:32 AM

Lon Kruger and Bill Self would disagree. He was their top recruiter at Illinois, especially for in-state players, back when the Illini kept most of the top players in state.

That was a long time ago..I personally want to see either...A. A veteran X's and O's guy(not Judson), it's too bad Phil Martelli is no longer available.

B. a grand slam type recruiter. Not that Stan/Dwayne aren't, but even more "fire power" COULD mean a whole new world for MU recruiting, IF they were to hire the right guy.

mu03eng · « **Reply #40 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:36:45 AM »

Quote from: Pakuni on July 03, 2019, 11:30:32 AM

Lon Kruger and Bill Self would disagree. He was their top recruiter at Illinois, especially for in-state players, back when the Illini kept most of the top players in state.

Are we recruit players from Illinois from 20 years ago? If not, pass

Pakuni · « **Reply #41 on:** July 03, 2019, 11:39:30 AM »

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 11:34:15 AM

That was a long time ago..I personally want to see either...A. A veteran X's and O's guy(not Judson), it's too bad Phil Martelli is no longer available.

B. a grand slam type recruiter. Not that Stan/Dwayne aren't, but even more "fire power" COULD mean a whole new world for MU recruiting, IF they were to hire the right guy.

Look, I'm not arguing for or against Judson, but you saying he's not much of a recruiter" is simply wrong.

ChitownSpaceForRent · « **Reply #42 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:10:01 PM »

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 11:05:17 AM

I'd see if John Scheyer is gettable. He'd be closer to home as well.

Please no, my head may explode if that happened.

79Warrior · « **Reply #43 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:21:22 PM »

Quote from: brewcity77 on July 03, 2019, 11:02:53 AM

Just like Buzz, a D1 head coach, would never sit next to Crean to be his lackey?

I think New Orleans was a mess of a program at that time to be fair. A little different than Milwaukee.

MrCNote · « **Reply #44 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:29:07 PM »

Quote from: muguru on July 03, 2019, 11:05:17 AM

I'd see if John Scheyer is gettable. He'd be closer to home as well.

He ain't leaving Duke except for head coaching job.

willie warrior · « **Reply #45 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:36:27 PM »

Quote from: AirPunch on July 03, 2019, 10:35:03 AM

Unless Baldwin feels he is about to be fired, why would an active D1 coach voluntarily leave his position to become an assistant under Wojo?

Because Wojo has the team trending upward. We heard that here

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #46 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:41:12 PM »

Quote from: willie warrior on July 03, 2019, 12:36:27 PM

Because Wojo has the team trending upward. We heard that here

That’s a good point, Willie. That’s why I think it’ll be an attractive opening.

WarriorFan · « **Reply #47 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:54:37 PM »

It doesn't matter if it's a one year hire - go get the best there is. Why is one year OK? The bucks are bring Wesley Matthews to town for what will likely be his last year in the NBA. Following that, MU needs to grab him as top assistant where he'll be ready to take over for Wojo after a couple years of adjustment.

WarriorFan · « **Reply #48 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:55:09 PM »

and by the way, congrats to Brett and family - great move to a great place.

Herman Cain · « **Reply #49 on:** July 03, 2019, 01:01:24 PM »

Rob Jeter is currently an assistant at Minnesota. Would be a solid candidate if he wanted to move back to Milwaukee.

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Author Topic: Brett Nelson named head coach at Holy Cross (Read 27218 times)