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muguru

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 06, 2019, 10:59:17 PM
This is an off cycle hire. It will be hard to get an experience, high level recruiter at this point regardless of the money.

You never know...Coaches move around all the time for various different reasons. I want him to at least exhaust all options in this area, before he(if that's what he decides) to hire within, or just make a "meh" hire.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

The Sultan

Quote from: muguru on July 06, 2019, 11:02:22 PM
You never know...Coaches move around all the time for various different reasons. I want him to at least exhaust all options in this area, before he(if that's what he decides) to hire within, or just make a "meh" hire.

I think he will be very deliberate when making his decision. I don't believe he has promoted assistants from within previously.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: muguru on July 06, 2019, 10:56:13 PM
I said one or the other...IF the right X's and O's guy is available(and I'm talking someone that is well known for it and is GREAT at it), that's who I would prefer, if not, go with the grand slam recruiter. That being said an X's and O's guy can also be a great recruiter, right??

As I said, I trust Wojo to make a good hire, as he has in the past.

I know it's crazy to actually trust the guy who hired Nelson, Stan and Killings as opposed to trusting an anonymous interwebs guy who claims to know more about basketball than the rest of us have forgotten, but that's the chance I'm willing to take.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

BCHoopster

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 06, 2019, 10:59:17 PM
This is an off cycle hire. It will be hard to get an experience, high level recruiter at this point regardless of the money.

Disagree, money talks, and I would say Wojo probably sees 1 AAU coach or assistant that the kids really like.  Need somebody
with connections to high school players.  Sure the 3 MU players are nice additions but bring nothing to the table called experincece
in recruiting at a high level.

Herman Cain

Quote from: BCHoopster on July 07, 2019, 11:12:02 AM
Disagree, money talks, and I would say Wojo probably sees 1 AAU coach or assistant that the kids really like.  Need somebody
with connections to high school players.  Sure the 3 MU players are nice additions but bring nothing to the table called experincece
in recruiting at a high level.
Yes, Money talks and thus MU will get a lot of quality applicants for the job.   
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Shooter Flatch

Quote from: BCHoopster on July 07, 2019, 11:12:02 AM
Sure the 3 MU players are nice additions but bring nothing to the table called experincece
in recruiting at a high level.

Obviously Wojo wants the best available candidate, but I don't know how you can say Jon Harris has no high level recruiting experience. You could also say the same thing about Brett Nelson before coming to Marquette.

Shooter Flatch

We can talk about all the potential candidates we want but Wojo's track record is to hire someone completely off the radar, or with Duke ties. I'm sure he'll make a good hire.

Jay Bee

Just need to make sure the candidates don't read Scoop.
The portal is NOT closed.

The Sultan

Quote from: BCHoopster on July 07, 2019, 11:12:02 AM
Disagree, money talks, and I would say Wojo probably sees 1 AAU coach or assistant that the kids really like.  Need somebody
with connections to high school players.  Sure the 3 MU players are nice additions but bring nothing to the table called experincece
in recruiting at a high level.

Put it this way. IMO they aren't hiring a proven assistant away from another major program this time.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Loose Cannon

" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

Pakuni

Quote from: Jay Bee on July 07, 2019, 12:28:08 PM
Just need to make sure the candidates don't read Scoop.

But then how will they ever learn to coach?

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on July 05, 2019, 07:38:34 PM
The only thing I know about Holy Cross is that they almost gave me a heart attack in Indy in 2003.

Thank goodness for Travis Diener, because D-Wade mostly sucked in that game, and Jackson and Merritt were totally M.I.A.

One of my good friends in LA is a Holy Cross grad. When I first started hanging out with him, Marquette came up and he said "you ******, I'm still not over 2003". He was a soph and his roommate was on the team. He told me going into the game, the roommate told him their strategy was to sell out and take out Wade and force Diener (the small white PG) to beat you. We all know what happened.

I happily remind him constantly that Diener is probably my fave MU player of all time and I still have a baggy #34 jersey from that year in my closet

Silent Verbal

Quote from: JWags85 on July 07, 2019, 03:55:56 PM
One of my good friends in LA is a Holy Cross grad. When I first started hanging out with him, Marquette came up and he said "you ******, I'm still not over 2003". He was a soph and his roommate was on the team. He told me going into the game, the roommate told him their strategy was to sell out and take out Wade and force Diener (the small white PG) to beat you. We all know what happened.

I happily remind him constantly that Diener is probably my fave MU player of all time and I still have a baggy #34 jersey from that year in my closet

Cool story, thanks for sharing.  I just looked at the box score for that game and my goodness, did Travis ever save our bacon.  Considering all that happened as a result of the Final Four run, that may be one of the more important (and overlooked) performances in MU history.

MU82

Quote from: Research Report on July 07, 2019, 05:57:42 PM
Cool story, thanks for sharing.  I just looked at the box score for that game and my goodness, did Travis ever save our bacon.  Considering all that happened as a result of the Final Four run, that may be one of the more important (and overlooked) performances in MU history.

It really was. I was in Indy ... and Diener became one of my favorite Warriors ever that day.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

mileskishnish72

Congrats to Brett. Great school, great hoops history...but it's in Worcester.

mu03eng

Quote from: JWags85 on July 07, 2019, 03:55:56 PM
One of my good friends in LA is a Holy Cross grad. When I first started hanging out with him, Marquette came up and he said "you ******, I'm still not over 2003". He was a soph and his roommate was on the team. He told me going into the game, the roommate told him their strategy was to sell out and take out Wade and force Diener (the small white PG) to beat you. We all know what happened.

I happily remind him constantly that Diener is probably my fave MU player of all time and I still have a baggy #34 jersey from that year in my closet

You're friends with Bill Simmons? Cool
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: JWags85 on July 07, 2019, 03:55:56 PM
I happily remind him constantly that Diener is probably my fave MU player of all time and I still have a baggy #34 jersey from that year in my closet
No worries...it will get less baggy per year.


Marcus92

Merritt and Jackson were both brutal to watch in that game -- shooting a combined 4 for 17 (23.5%). Diener scored as many points (29) as the rest of the starting lineup combined. It was a career high for Travis, and couldn't have come at a better time. Man, was that kid a competitor.

I also forgot that Tom Crean was an assistant to Holy Cross coach Kevin Willard when Willard was at Western Kentucky and Pittsburgh.
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

Marcus92

Congrats to Brett, BTW. Hate to lose him, but it's always a good sign when your assistants are in demand. It reflects well on the Marquette program. Think Holy Cross got a great young coach. Best of luck, and hope Wojo brings in someone just as good -- if not better.

"Brett is as good a basketball mind and worker as I have been around in college basketball. He has made Marquette University and our players better every day that he has been with us." Steve Wojciechowski

"I have been blessed to work with Brett at both Ball State and Marquette...He's a very good teacher of the game. But most importantly, he is a man of character and integrity who will do things the right way every day." Bill Scholl

"I have never seen a harder worker and a more committed player and coach to the game of basketball." Billy Donovan

http://www.patriotleague.org/news/2019/7/8/holy-cross-names-brett-nelson-mens-basketball-head-coach.aspx
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

wadesworld

Now what are the Wojo bashers going to say when they can no longer claim Wojo's assistants get no interest in head coaching jobs?

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: wadesworld on July 08, 2019, 01:51:14 PM
Now what are the Wojo bashers going to say when they can no longer claim Wojo's assistants get no interest in head coaching jobs?

Donnie Jones coaching tree?

Herman Cain

The assistant coaching candidates while all have their chance to show their recruiting chops in the interview process. They first have to convince Wojo and Staff they have the mettle for the job and why they are better than all the other very qualified candidates. If they have connections who can influence at MU that can lobby for them all the better. It is the same thing they have to do with recruits and their parents. 
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

muguru

"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

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