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rocket surgeon

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Pakuni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 05, 2019, 08:53:06 PM
you you you, you misogynist you,  you you

Well, that's certainly one explanation for someone being strongly opposed to men and women being paid equitably.
For the USSF, it's simply a business matter. They want to pay as little as they can get away with.
I suspect some are just surly that some of the USWNT members won't (gasp!) shut up and stick to sports.

Cheeks

Quote from: Pakuni on August 05, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
So, what you're saying is that the USWNT outdraws the USMNT (for a meaningless exhibition game, no less) in games that don't include Mexico as an opponent.
This helps your argument how?

Nice try.  Women just won the World Cup, they are adored and heroes to thoughts and prayers Mike, and 37k showed up with tickets given away to some and on average only $40.

If the men won the World Cup, do you think their first event after would raw 37k regardless if the game was meaningless and the tickets only $40?  Is that your argument?

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: Pakuni on August 05, 2019, 11:01:48 AM
You sure about that?
According to the the Society for American Soccer History, the last five games at the Rose Bowl were:
10/10/15 vs Mexico, 93,723
6/25/11 vs Mexico. 93,420
2/2/02 vs Costa Rica, 14,432
1/27/02 vs El Salvador, 31,628
1/19/02 vs Cuba, 31,244

http://www.ussoccerhistory.org/

My error, the last five games at the Rose Bowl sold out...I went to three of them....not all involved the US men's team.  Some involved LA Galaxy and European powers....again, because men's soccer is just fundamentally more popular by huge factors....which is why they get paid more....which is why this argument remains ridiculous.  But yes, I said US men's team at Rose Bowl, and that was not correct.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Pakuni

#580
Quote from: Cheeks on August 05, 2019, 10:08:47 PM
My error, the last five games at the Rose Bowl sold out...I went to three of them....not all involved the US men's team.  Some involved LA Galaxy and European powers....again, because men's soccer is just fundamentally more popular by huge factors....which is why they get paid more....which is why this argument remains ridiculous.  But yes, I said US men's team at Rose Bowl, and that was not correct.

Got it. Because Manchester United and FC Barcelona is are more popular than the Orlando Pride and Chicago Red Stars, the USMNT deserves to be paid more than the USWNT ... regardless of how much revenue the national teams produce.
That's some iron-clad logic there.

MU82

Thoughts and prayers for chicos' logic.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on August 05, 2019, 11:27:09 PM
Thoughts and prayers for chicos' logic.

You're making the assumption it ever existed in the first place.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Cheeks

#583
Quote from: MU82 on August 05, 2019, 11:27:09 PM
Thoughts and prayers for chicos' logic.
Thoughts and prayers from the atheist that doesn't care about millions of innocents lost each year but like clockwork comes out on this stuff.....logic you were saying?  What logic do you have?
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: Pakuni on August 05, 2019, 11:19:25 PM
Got it. Because Manchester United and FC Barcelona is are more popular than the Orlando Pride and Chicago Red Stars, the USMNT deserves to be paid more than the USWNT ... regardless of how much revenue the national teams produce.
That's some iron-clad logic there.

Women's team won world title and drew 37k the other day with local entities giving away tickets for free begging people to go.

Not logic, just actual facts. 

Thanks
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MU82

Quote from: Cheeks on August 06, 2019, 10:09:13 PM
Thoughts and prayers from the atheist that doesn't care about millions of innocents lost each year but like clockwork comes out on this stuff.....logic you were saying?  What logic do you have?

Logic? I could go into the many ways you twist your "all life is precious" rhetoric to not include millions whose lives you don't give two chits about, but I don't want to bore our fellow Scoopers.

Otherwise, obviously you missed my point -- thoughts and prayers after every shooting mean about as much as thoughts and prayers from an atheist about anything.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

Quote from: MU82 on August 06, 2019, 10:31:44 PM
Logic? I could go into the many ways you twist your "all life is precious" rhetoric to not include millions whose lives you don't give two chits about, but I don't want to bore our fellow Scoopers.

Otherwise, obviously you missed my point -- thoughts and prayers after every shooting mean about as much as thoughts and prayers from an atheist about anything.

Your thoughts and prayers truly don't mean crap.  Real thoughts and prayers from people who care and believe in them....do.  That's the difference.

Have a blessed evening
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Cheeks on August 06, 2019, 10:34:14 PM
Your thoughts and prayers truly don't mean crap.  Real thoughts and prayers from people who care and believe in them....do.  That's the difference.

Have a blessed evening
Tell that to the people who are preparing to bury their loved ones.  Or did you forget to pray for no mass shootings the day they happened? 

MU82

You try to be a fact-based guy, chicos. If you can provide scientific evidence that "thoughts and prayers" solved anything ever, I will tell everybody I see Merry Christmas this Dec. 25.

P.S. Neither the bible nor a world leader mandating that Merry Christmas be said qualify as scientific evidence.

Meanwhile ...

How 'bout that Rapinoe and the rest of our great USWNT!

Interesting kinda-related story:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/456467-montana-man-charged-for-assaulting-13-year-old-who-was-allegedly

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 07, 2019, 06:30:33 AM
Tell that to the people who are preparing to bury their loved ones.  Or did you forget to pray for no mass shootings the day they happened?

Tell that to the over 2000 Americans killed by people not legally allowed to be here in the last two years.  Ahh, logic again.

Your logic is if we only banned these things these people would be alive, yet if we also enforced our laws those 2000 Americans would also be alive because they couldn't be killed by someone that isn't here.  But alas not a peep for those kids, moms, dads, etc, who lost their lives.  So telling who's life matters and by whom it was extinguished.  So telling how we care about some innocent lives lost, bit don't give a rip when others are lost.  So telling.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

#590
Quote from: MU82 on August 07, 2019, 08:01:18 AM
You try to be a fact-based guy, chicos. If you can provide scientific evidence that "thoughts and prayers" solved anything ever, I will tell everybody I see Merry Christmas this Dec. 25.

P.S. Neither the bible nor a world leader mandating that Merry Christmas be said qualify as scientific evidence.

Meanwhile ...

How 'bout that Rapinoe and the rest of our great USWNT!

Interesting kinda-related story:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/456467-montana-man-charged-for-assaulting-13-year-old-who-was-allegedly

Faith is a powerful thing that is unprovable.  That's fine. But since you don't believe and mock those of us that do, aren't you being an intolerant prick in the process?  You know that answer, but your hypocrisy won't allow you to publicly admit it.

Have a blessed day.  I'll pray for you.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

4everwarriors

Quote from: MU82 on August 06, 2019, 10:31:44 PM
Logic? I could go into the many ways you twist your "all life is precious" rhetoric to not include millions whose lives you don't give two chits about, but I don't want to bore our fellow Scoopers.

Otherwise, obviously you missed my point -- thoughts and prayers after every shooting mean about as much as thoughts and prayers from an atheist about anything.



Try sum ExLax, Nads. U'll feel sew much bedder, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

rocket surgeon

82 hasn't hit his quota on thread lockdowns today yet?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Pakuni

Quote from: Cheeks on August 06, 2019, 10:10:12 PM
Women's team won world title and drew 37k the other day with local entities giving away tickets for free begging people to go.

Not logic, just actual facts. 

Thanks

Women's team made more money since 2015 than the men.
Despite this, Cheeks believes they still deserve to be paid less ... apparently because a) they're women and b) professional men's soccer teams from other countries are popular.
These are the facts, and they defy logic.

And seriously, why must you insert your politics into every thread? Literally nobody here cares about your views on immigration.

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