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muguru

#150
I really have to laugh because all the people that dismiss the Wojo to vatech rumors as being completely bunk totally clamp on to the players transferring rumors and run with it
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 14, 2019, 08:46:19 PM
How is it a "false definition"?

The #1 definition in the Urban Dictionary? The one that is its MOST common use?

1. A toss up, a roll of the dice.

You might not LIKE how the term "crapshoot" is most commonly used but there you have it. And based on that, you're wrong. Period.

Urban Dicitionary....are you fucking serious?   I mean, are you really fucking serious?  A new low.  LOL

Urban Dictionary....my God.

It also says  "The stock market is a crapshoot."   Well if that is the case, why in the hell do we need stock brokers or people in that field at all....eh? 



"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: willie warrior on April 14, 2019, 06:25:21 PM
Right. All the comments here about "natty" are not realistic. I agree. And I am optimistic that others are overly optimistic  including you, chicks.

You don't understand the meaning of the word then based on your second sentence.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Cheeks on April 14, 2019, 09:03:39 PM
Urban Dicitionary....are you unnatural carnal knowledgeing serious?   I mean, are you really unnatural carnal knowledgeing serious?  A new low.  LOL

Urban Dictionary....my God.

It also says  "The stock market is a crapshoot."   Well if that is the case, why in the hell do we need stock brokers or people in that field at all....eh?

What's wrong with the urban dictionary? Not traditional enough for you?

Based on the most common use of the term crapshoot you're still wrong. Period. But keep moving the goalposts.

MU82

Life is a crapshoot, so obviously the NCAA tourney is, too. It's part of life.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 14, 2019, 09:30:04 PM
What's wrong with the urban dictionary? Not traditional enough for you?

Based on the most common use of the term crapshoot you're still wrong. Period. But keep moving the goalposts.

It isn't a legitimate dictionary.  That's what is wrong with it.  You know damn well if I used it or someone else, you would say it is illegitimate, because it is.  People provide definitions at Urban Dictionary, not scholars or lexicographers in a legitimate dictionary.

I didn't move the goalposts at all.  You have a faulty definition of equal outcome which is not the case for how it is used as a description.  Keep trying though....maybe you can find a comment on Facebook and say that is a definition,

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Boozemon Barro

It's a crapshoot on whether or not a scoop thread will get derailed by a stupid argument.

willie warrior

Quote from: Cheeks on April 14, 2019, 09:04:54 PM
You don't understand the meaning of the word then based on your second sentence.
That must be chicks
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

brewcity77

Quote from: Cheeks on April 14, 2019, 05:30:02 PM
Part of it...yes.  All of it, no.

Not that hard really.  Luck on some calls.  Luck on a few missed free throws that could have won for other team. Etc.  Lick is part of sports, by no means is it the only reason a team wins, nor did I ever suggest that is the case.

If you're going to dispute Urban Dictionary, you might as well concede that luck doesn't actually exist. It's just a human construct to explain that which we have not yet been able to quantify. The same way lightning was once attributed to Zeus or Thor, or storms were acts of deities, or assists & blocks weren't recorded as stats.

A shot falling or not falling isn't luck, it's whether or not the shooter put the appropriate trajectory on the ball. The NCAA draw isn't luck, it's based on your season performance & the rules that guide the selection process.

There's no luck, no crapshoot, none of it. Those that win do so because the executed at the necessary times & those that didn't, didn't.

MU82

Quote from: Boozemon Barro on April 14, 2019, 10:29:49 PM
It's a crapshoot on whether or not a scoop thread will get derailed by a stupid argument.

Actually not. It's an almost 100% certainty ... especially if chicos is involved.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

....we're going off the rails on a crazy train.....

Every scoop thread ever.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Yet another NHL season points leader loses in Round 1.

This time, in an added twist, the Lightning -- who had one of the best regular-season records ever -- got swept out of the first round.

NHL Playoffs: The true crapshoot.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


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TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


brewcity77

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 02, 2019, 08:16:08 AM
Top 5 teams outside the top 25. Sounds about right to me without looking to closely.

Also about where we were a year ago.

tower912

Assuming status quo (no impact grad transfers) and health, I think the 19-20 team should have a record roughly akin to the 18-19 team.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on May 02, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Assuming status quo (no impact grad transfers) and health, I think the 19-20 team should have a record roughly akin to the 18-19 team.
Very disappointing if you are correct. 

Tha Hound

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 02, 2019, 10:47:25 AM
Very disappointing if you are correct.

I'd take a 5 seed after losing two of our top three players in the offseason. Still wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd take it.

tower912

24 wins and a 5 seed?  I will take that most years.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Quote from: tower912 on May 02, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
24 wins and a 5 seed?  I will take that most years.

Most years I would too. But when Marquette spends a couple weeks retweeting every top-10 projection for the next year, I'll admit my expectations go up. Nothing that's happened since their expectation lifting social media blitzkrieg has changed where they reset my expectations to.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: tower912 on May 02, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
24 wins and a 5 seed?  I will take that every most year.

FIFY. 

Obviously a little disappointing after we all expected a legit top 5-10 team next season, but a top 20 type team and top 5-6 seed is nothing to stick your nose up at.   Just so surprised we didn't have any luck on the grad transfer market.  You'd like a big wing/PF type would be drooling at the opportunity to take over the Hauser's role on a team that is supposed to be very good.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

muguru

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 02, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
FIFY. 

Obviously a little disappointing after we all expected a legit top 5-10 team next season, but a top 20 type team and top 5-6 seed is nothing to stick your nose up at.  Just so surprised we didn't have any luck on the grad transfer market.  You'd like a big wing/PF type would be drooling at the opportunity to take over the Hauser's role on a team that is supposed to be very good.

Jayce Johnson will commit..Just a hunch, but a strong one.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Marcus92

In the 42 seasons since winning the national title in 1977, Marquette has:

  • Made 20 NCAA appearances
  • Won at least 24 games just 10 times

Them's the facts. Earning a bid to the Big Dance and winning 24+ games are both really good things. Even Buzz won fewer than 24 games three times in his six seasons at MU. My eyes are on a bigger prize. But that's no reason to overlook or downplay meaningful accomplishments.
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Quote from: Marcus92 on May 02, 2019, 11:37:04 AM
In the 42 seasons since winning the national title in 1977, Marquette has:

  • Made 20 NCAA appearances
  • Won at least 24 games just 10 times

Them's the facts. Earning a bid to the Big Dance and winning 24+ games are both really good things. Even Buzz won fewer than 24 games three times in his six seasons at MU. My eyes are on a bigger prize. But that's no reason to overlook or downplay meaningful accomplishments.

The context is important.  I would also say absolute level of wins isnt really a great barometer of anything.  In the old BEast conference a 50% in-conf record usually got you in the tourney.

Marcus92

Just saying, if you look at the history, we've missed the tournament more times than we've made it. And winning 24 games is far from an every-season occurrence. Al easily accomplished more in his 13 seasons than all other MU coaches since combined:

Al McGuire (1965-1977)
8 Sweet 16s
4 Elite 8s
2 Final Fours
2 title game appearances
1 national title

All other coaches (1977-present)
6 Sweet 16s
2 Elite 8s
1 Final Four
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