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Author Topic: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions  (Read 71997 times)

muguru

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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #100 on: April 09, 2019, 10:25:22 AM »
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on April 09, 2019, 09:10:25 AM
All of these high expectations make me nervous.  Like, if we finish 4th instead of 2nd, guru will be calling for Wojo's head because we underachieved.

This is all going to change..In a matter of a week or two.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #101 on: April 09, 2019, 10:29:12 AM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 09, 2019, 10:19:54 AM
I think a case can be made for anywhere from 2-15. If one assumes this team showed what it really was with a healthy Markus & everyone returns, as high as 2 isn't unreasonable (hard to not see Michigan State #1 right now). If one assumes they were always a bit overrated and there are some real warts that were exposed, 15 seems about right as on paper they should still be a better team next year.

Yep. We were a top-15 team for 6 weeks (Week 11-17) last season, a top-10 team for some of that time, and ranked just about all season. And we theoretically will have everybody back to an experienced team that will be adding one of the top transfers in the BEast as well as a valuable reserve who was injured. Our only loss was a guy who averaged 6 mpg.

#10-15 seems right to me.

Single-digit rankings (especially top-5) seem high for a team that has some flaws. But it's fun to conversate about ... and after all, polls are only conversation pieces. They don't mean diddly-do.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #102 on: April 09, 2019, 10:30:25 AM »
Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2019, 10:08:41 AM
Anyone putting real money on MU at 40-1 to win NC next season?

does $20 count as real money?
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #103 on: April 09, 2019, 10:33:18 AM »
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #104 on: April 09, 2019, 10:34:30 AM »
Maybe all these high preseason rankings will make markus want to stay for his senior year?
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #105 on: April 09, 2019, 10:41:13 AM »
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #106 on: April 09, 2019, 11:03:38 AM »
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2019, 11:10:04 AM »
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 09, 2019, 08:54:12 AM
And, here's his Final Four:  Gonzaga, Duke, Kentucky and Purdue.      Zero for four.  Solid.

#crapshoot
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #108 on: April 09, 2019, 11:25:49 AM »
Quote from: KampusFoods on April 09, 2019, 11:10:04 AM
#crapshoot

Yup

And look at Virginia’s journey this year...at least three games they could or should have lost due to any number of reasons.  Yes, crapshoot and yes luck is part of the formula.

If people can’t come to that conclusion after this year I don’t know what it will take.


Elite 8 - Purdue 70, Virginia 67, 5 seconds left in game
Final 4 - Auburn 61, Virginia 57, 17 seconds left in game
Champ - Texas Tech 68, Virginia 65, 12 seconds left in game

Virginia won all of these games.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2019, 01:40:30 PM »
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1116770588733759488


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Not only do I admit when I'm wrong, I'm happy to do it! Especially when it benefits college hoops. Good for Markus -- and Marquette. They go from unranked to being in my preseason top 10. He's that good.

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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2019, 01:43:09 PM »
Quote from: genious expert on April 12, 2019, 01:40:30 PM
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1116770588733759488


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Not only do I admit when I'm wrong, I'm happy to do it! Especially when it benefits college hoops. Good for Markus -- and Marquette. They go from unranked to being in my preseason top 10. He's that good.

1:30 PM - 12 Apr 2019

First time I have respected Seth in a while.  At least he admits his error.  Still think he's bad at predicting things in college basketball.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2019, 05:38:37 PM »
He is that good.  Some posters fail to remember that.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2019, 09:46:15 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on April 12, 2019, 05:38:37 PM
He is that good.  Some posters fail to remember that.

We have tunnel vision here. We are all Marquette all the time, so we pick and pick and pick and pick.

National folks, who see the entire landscape, have a much better perspective.

Literally hundreds of basketball coaches out there wish they had Markus Effen Howard. And yet there are Scoopers who, incredibly, think we'd be better without him.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2019, 10:01:41 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on April 12, 2019, 05:38:37 PM
He is that good.  Some posters fail to remember that.
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Markus these last three years and am looking forward to a great senior season from this outstanding representative of Marquette. These type of monster impact players come along every 20 years or so .   
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #114 on: April 14, 2019, 11:58:44 AM »
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on April 09, 2019, 10:30:25 AM
does $20 count as real money?
No  but it usually is affordable. But with the consensus of so many that Wojo has the NC in hand, you just might want to bump it to C-note and make some mid major money.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2019, 12:06:29 PM »
Quote from: Herman Cain on April 12, 2019, 10:01:41 PM
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Markus these last three years and am looking forward to a great senior season from this outstanding representative of Marquette. These type of monster impact players come along every 20 years or so .

But as good as he is, the other players will make the difference how good MU will be next year, rather see Markus scoring going down and play more like a team
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #116 on: April 14, 2019, 12:23:50 PM »
Quote from: willie warrior on April 14, 2019, 11:58:44 AM
No  but it usually is affordable. But with the consensus of so many that Wojo has the NC in hand, you just might want to bump it to C-note and make some mid major money.

Get real, no one is realistically saying national title.  People are just optimistic about next season. You should try it sometime
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #117 on: April 14, 2019, 12:25:20 PM »
Markus is a phenomenal talent but elite success for MU and him personally will depend on whether he can evolve into elevating the performance of his teammates more consistently
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #118 on: April 14, 2019, 01:16:43 PM »
Quote from: Cheeks on April 09, 2019, 11:25:49 AM
Yup

And look at Virginia’s journey this year...at least three games they could or should have lost due to any number of reasons.  Yes, crapshoot and yes luck is part of the formula.

If people can’t come to that conclusion after this year I don’t know what it will take.


Elite 8 - Purdue 70, Virginia 67, 5 seconds left in game
Final 4 - Auburn 61, Virginia 57, 17 seconds left in game
Champ - Texas Tech 68, Virginia 65, 12 seconds left in game

Virginia won all of these games.

In a true crapshoot the 64 teams who begin play on the tournament's first Thursday would have an equal chance of winning it all. Of course that's preposterous. Anyone who knows anything about college basketball can name in the neighborhood of 50 teams going in who have no chance.

The #1 team in the Pomeroy rankings won it all again this year. If they lose, to you it proves "crapshoot". If they win, it proves the same. LOL

But you're wrong either way. There will always be upsets, but the team that is left standing is among the cream of college basketball's crop, not some lucky, pick a team out of a hat who rolled 6 straight 7s.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #119 on: April 14, 2019, 01:23:54 PM »
Just hope our favorite brothers love these coaches.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #120 on: April 14, 2019, 01:25:02 PM »

Can you be more specific?
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #121 on: April 14, 2019, 01:50:21 PM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 14, 2019, 01:16:43 PM
In a true crapshoot the 64 teams who begin play on the tournament's first Thursday would have an equal chance of winning it all. Of course that's preposterous. Anyone who knows anything about college basketball can name in the neighborhood of 50 teams going in who have no chance.

False definition.  You keep using a definition of crapshoot that is not accurate for how it is being used here and you know it.

The definition of crapshoot is “something that has an unpredictable outcome”.

That is how I used it, how Mark Few, Jay Wright, various journalists, etc. 

Why do you keep insisting on “equal chance or outcome”?

 The term crapshoot is used for which the definition is given. 

Please find me a definition of crapshoot in the context it has been used in which it provides an equal outcome result. 
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #122 on: April 14, 2019, 02:00:47 PM »
Quote from: NickelDimer on April 14, 2019, 01:25:02 PM
Can you be more specific?

I wouldn't worry. Not this year, anyways.
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #123 on: April 14, 2019, 02:08:01 PM »
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on April 14, 2019, 02:00:47 PM
I wouldn't worry. Not this year, anyways.

The more I hear the more worried I’m getting.....
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Re: Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions
« Reply #124 on: April 14, 2019, 02:12:38 PM »
Quote from: onepostjohnson on April 14, 2019, 02:08:01 PM
The more I hear the more worried I’m getting.....

I have no information that's first hand. But I've talked to people who were at the banquet who said every player said they were excited to have the whole team back next year. Things can change, of course. But I'm not going to stress about it.
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