Way Too Early 2019/20 Pre-Season Predictions

[muguru]

All of these high expectations make me nervous.  Like, if we finish 4th instead of 2nd, guru will be calling for Wojo's head because we underachieved.

This is all going to change..In a matter of a week or two.

[MU82]

I think a case can be made for anywhere from 2-15. If one assumes this team showed what it really was with a healthy Markus & everyone returns, as high as 2 isn't unreasonable (hard to not see Michigan State #1 right now). If one assumes they were always a bit overrated and there are some real warts that were exposed, 15 seems about right as on paper they should still be a better team next year.

Yep. We were a top-15 team for 6 weeks (Week 11-17) last season, a top-10 team for some of that time, and ranked just about all season. And we theoretically will have everybody back to an experienced team that will be adding one of the top transfers in the BEast as well as a valuable reserve who was injured. Our only loss was a guy who averaged 6 mpg.

#10-15 seems right to me.

Single-digit rankings (especially top-5) seem high for a team that has some flaws. But it's fun to conversate about ... and after all, polls are only conversation pieces. They don't mean diddly-do.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Anyone putting real money on MU at 40-1 to win NC next season?

does $20 count as real money?

[MuMark]

https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/1115632130594430982

[GoldenEagle323]

Maybe all these high preseason rankings will make markus want to stay for his senior year?

[Galway Eagle]

Number 2

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

Number 4

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/04/08/college-basketball-2019-2020-preseason-top-25/

Number 6

https://watchstadium.com/news/preseason-top-25-jeff-goodmans-2019-20-college-basketball-rankings-04-08-2019/

Number 6

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/09/ncaa-basketball-rankings-early-top-25-kentucky-duke-michigan-state

[Tha Hound]

Number 2

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

Number 4

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/04/08/college-basketball-2019-2020-preseason-top-25/

Number 6

https://watchstadium.com/news/preseason-top-25-jeff-goodmans-2019-20-college-basketball-rankings-04-08-2019/

Number 6

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/09/ncaa-basketball-rankings-early-top-25-kentucky-duke-michigan-state

Thanks, put them on the first post.

[KampusFoods]

And, here's his Final Four:  Gonzaga, Duke, Kentucky and Purdue.      Zero for four.  Solid.

#crapshoot

[Cheeks]

#crapshoot

Yup

And look at Virginia's journey this year...at least three games they could or should have lost due to any number of reasons.  Yes, crapshoot and yes luck is part of the formula.

If people can't come to that conclusion after this year I don't know what it will take.


Elite 8 - Purdue 70, Virginia 67, 5 seconds left in game
Final 4 - Auburn 61, Virginia 57, 17 seconds left in game
Champ - Texas Tech 68, Virginia 65, 12 seconds left in game

Virginia won all of these games.

[genious expert]

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1116770588733759488


Seth Davis
‏Verified account @SethDavisHoops

Not only do I admit when I'm wrong, I'm happy to do it! Especially when it benefits college hoops. Good for Markus -- and Marquette. They go from unranked to being in my preseason top 10. He's that good.

1:30 PM - 12 Apr 2019

[wadesworld]

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1116770588733759488


Seth Davis
‏Verified account @SethDavisHoops

Not only do I admit when I'm wrong, I'm happy to do it! Especially when it benefits college hoops. Good for Markus -- and Marquette. They go from unranked to being in my preseason top 10. He's that good.

1:30 PM - 12 Apr 2019

First time I have respected Seth in a while.  At least he admits his error.  Still think he's bad at predicting things in college basketball.

[tower912]

He is that good.  Some posters fail to remember that.

[MU82]

He is that good.  Some posters fail to remember that.

We have tunnel vision here. We are all Marquette all the time, so we pick and pick and pick and pick.

National folks, who see the entire landscape, have a much better perspective.

Literally hundreds of basketball coaches out there wish they had Markus Effen Howard. And yet there are Scoopers who, incredibly, think we'd be better without him.

[Herman Cain]

He is that good.  Some posters fail to remember that.

I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Markus these last three years and am looking forward to a great senior season from this outstanding representative of Marquette. These type of monster impact players come along every 20 years or so .   

[willie warrior]

does $20 count as real money?

No  but it usually is affordable. But with the consensus of so many that Wojo has the NC in hand, you just might want to bump it to C-note and make some mid major money.

[BCHoopster]

I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Markus these last three years and am looking forward to a great senior season from this outstanding representative of Marquette. These type of monster impact players come along every 20 years or so .

But as good as he is, the other players will make the difference how good MU will be next year, rather see Markus scoring going down and play more like a team

[Cheeks]

No  but it usually is affordable. But with the consensus of so many that Wojo has the NC in hand, you just might want to bump it to C-note and make some mid major money.

Get real, no one is realistically saying national title.  People are just optimistic about next season. You should try it sometime

[NickelDimer]

Markus is a phenomenal talent but elite success for MU and him personally will depend on whether he can evolve into elevating the performance of his teammates more consistently

[Lennys Tap]

Yup

And look at Virginia's journey this year...at least three games they could or should have lost due to any number of reasons.  Yes, crapshoot and yes luck is part of the formula.

If people can't come to that conclusion after this year I don't know what it will take.


Elite 8 - Purdue 70, Virginia 67, 5 seconds left in game
Final 4 - Auburn 61, Virginia 57, 17 seconds left in game
Champ - Texas Tech 68, Virginia 65, 12 seconds left in game

Virginia won all of these games.

In a true crapshoot the 64 teams who begin play on the tournament's first Thursday would have an equal chance of winning it all. Of course that's preposterous. Anyone who knows anything about college basketball can name in the neighborhood of 50 teams going in who have no chance.

The #1 team in the Pomeroy rankings won it all again this year. If they lose, to you it proves "crapshoot". If they win, it proves the same. LOL

But you're wrong either way. There will always be upsets, but the team that is left standing is among the cream of college basketball's crop, not some lucky, pick a team out of a hat who rolled 6 straight 7s.

[onepost]

Just hope our favorite brothers love these coaches.

[NickelDimer]

Can you be more specific?

[Cheeks]

In a true crapshoot the 64 teams who begin play on the tournament's first Thursday would have an equal chance of winning it all. Of course that's preposterous. Anyone who knows anything about college basketball can name in the neighborhood of 50 teams going in who have no chance.

False definition.  You keep using a definition of crapshoot that is not accurate for how it is being used here and you know it.

The definition of crapshoot is "something that has an unpredictable outcome".

That is how I used it, how Mark Few, Jay Wright, various journalists, etc. 

Why do you keep insisting on "equal chance or outcome"?

The term crapshoot is used for which the definition is given. 

Please find me a definition of crapshoot in the context it has been used in which it provides an equal outcome result. 

[BM1090]

Can you be more specific?

I wouldn't worry. Not this year, anyways.

[onepost]

I wouldn't worry. Not this year, anyways.

The more I hear the more worried I'm getting.....

[BM1090]

The more I hear the more worried I'm getting.....

I have no information that's first hand. But I've talked to people who were at the banquet who said every player said they were excited to have the whole team back next year. Things can change, of course. But I'm not going to stress about it.