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The Sultan

Quote from: nyg on March 18, 2019, 05:02:07 PM
Last year you said the same for any medium sized school for Stan.  We get it and see how this year goes. 
Stan, if he even is looking for such a job, would do much better than a Montana State. 


Again where?  Is Stan Johnson some type of under-the-radar hot coaching candidate?  He was rumored for Fresno last year, but that never went anywhere. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 18, 2019, 04:21:04 PM
Like where? Conferences like the Big Sky are where most new coaches get their start.

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 18, 2019, 08:48:03 PM

Again where?  Is Stan Johnson some type of under-the-radar hot coaching candidate?  He was rumored for Fresno last year, but that never went anywhere. 

He was a finalist for Fresno last year. My guess is is he will wait until there is a similar level of job before leaving. Honestly would be more suprised if he left for a Montana State type job than if he left for another assistant job at a bigger program.
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Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 18, 2019, 09:57:24 PM
He was a finalist for Fresno last year. My guess is is he will wait until there is a similar level of job before leaving. Honestly would be more suprised if he left for a Montana State type job than if he left for another assistant job at a bigger program.
He is getting pretty good coin at MU as an assistant so hard to see him leaving for another assistant job .

Montana State is actually a popular school for kids to go to these days. They also have some decent facilities . So Stan might be able to make some noise in The Big Sky Conference.

At some point he needs to take a head coaching job or else he becomes a career assistant type.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

Quote from: nyg on March 18, 2019, 05:02:07 PM
Last year you said the same for any medium sized school for Stan.  We get it and see how this year goes. 
Stan, if he even is looking for such a job, would do much better than a Montana State.

I don't know what motivates Stan. Maybe he wants to be a head coach, and he doesn't care where.

But one could make a pretty good case that, unless a really good HC job comes open for which he can be a serious candidate, being Wojo's top assistant is a good place to bide one's time until that job exists. Heck, he could do a lot worse than make the S16 as an assistant this year and the FF as an assistant next and then take over at MU when Wojo replaces K.

Ha ... easy for me to say!
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Mr. Nielsen

Phil Martelli Out as Saint Josephs Basketball Coach
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MUBurrow

Goodman reported yesterday that Nebraska will be firing Tim Miles and Hoiberg is the frontrunner to replace him. No word on whether Fred Hoiberg is aware that he is the frontrunner at Nebraska.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 19, 2019, 10:04:54 AM
Phil Martelli Out as Saint Josephs Basketball Coach

I am nowhere near Philly, nor do I follow this program. But I admit this surprised me. He seemed like an institution there.

Here is the school's statement:

Coach Phil Martelli stands among out among his peers in college basketball not only for his long tenure and the many accolades that he and his teams have achieved, but also for his engagement with the community and his service as an ambassador for SJU. The University recognizes and celebrates the history and heart that Coach Martelli brought to the program and thanks him for his long service, dedication and stewardship.

Ipso fatso, we're celebrating your history by firing your arse.

FYI, that last sentence wasn't part of the official statement.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell


dgies9156

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 19, 2019, 10:11:13 AM
Speculation in local paper re: Sean Miller
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/3202186002

Brother Herm, here's the questions on this one:

1) Would Nico Mannion reconsider staying at Arizona if Miller et al are fired?
2) Assuming Miller was fired and the circumstances associated with his firing, would Mannion be immediately eligible?
3) Is the recruitment of Mannion under scrutiny as well?
4) If Arizona is placed on probation with our without Miller, does Mannion immediately become eligible?
5) Do we need him?
6) Do we want him?

As I recall, Nico was a five-star and we were like number 2 behind Arizona to get him. I admit however that my memory may be off slightly.

This poses both an opportunity and a challenge for Wojo. We appear to have a very good team going into next year. If Koby McEwen is the real deal (and I suspect he is) and Greg Elliott comes back stronger than ever, we have a crowded back court.

What do you fellow Scoopers think about this one?



Its DJOver

5. No
6. Yes, you don't turn down 5* recruits, however, until/if he gets released from his LOI none of it matters.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MU82

Quote from: dgies9156 on March 19, 2019, 10:43:19 AM
Brother Herm, here's the questions on this one:

1) Would Nico Mannion reconsider staying at Arizona if Miller et al are fired?
2) Assuming Miller was fired and the circumstances associated with his firing, would Mannion be immediately eligible?
3) Is the recruitment of Mannion under scrutiny as well?
4) If Arizona is placed on probation with our without Miller, does Mannion immediately become eligible?
5) Do we need him?
6) Do we want him?

As I recall, Nico was a five-star and we were like number 2 behind Arizona to get him. I admit however that my memory may be off slightly.

This poses both an opportunity and a challenge for Wojo. We appear to have a very good team going into next year. If Koby McEwen is the real deal (and I suspect he is) and Greg Elliott comes back stronger than ever, we have a crowded back court.

What do you fellow Scoopers think about this one?
Sure, I'll play the Hypothetical Situation Game ...

Bring in the best talent possible (as long as there are no red flags re behavioral problems, and that doesn't seem to be the case with Nico), and everything will work itself out.

If Nico's arrival leads others to transfer or grad transfer, then thank the departed for their excellent service and wish them well.

And then go win a national title.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

SaveOD238

In the unlikely (I think) situation that Markus decides to go pro, Nico would step and we would hardly miss a beat.

muguru

I just don't know where all the "if Markus leaves" talk is coming from?? I mean for cripes sakes he didn't even put his name in last year to get an evaluation from scouts etc. He's a smart kid...he knows he isn't NBA ready, and he and Sam are best friends..They are going to finish what they started.
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: muguru on March 19, 2019, 11:54:41 AM
I just don't know where all the "if Markus leaves" talk is coming from?? I mean for cripes sakes he didn't even put his name in last year to get an evaluation from scouts etc. He's a smart kid...he knows he isn't NBA ready, and he and Sam are best friends..They are going to finish what they started.

There are many reasons why he would come back... "he and Sam are best friends..They are going to finish what they started" is very low on the list

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2019, 10:13:14 AM
I am nowhere near Philly, nor do I follow this program. But I admit this surprised me. He seemed like an institution there.

Here is the school's statement:

Coach Phil Martelli stands among out among his peers in college basketball not only for his long tenure and the many accolades that he and his teams have achieved, but also for his engagement with the community and his service as an ambassador for SJU. The University recognizes and celebrates the history and heart that Coach Martelli brought to the program and thanks him for his long service, dedication and stewardship.

Ipso fatso, we're celebrating your history by firing your arse.

FYI, that last sentence wasn't part of the official statement.

Newish AD trying to make her mark.
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warriorchick

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 19, 2019, 11:59:32 AM
There are many reasons why he would come back... "he and Sam are best friends..They are going to finish what they started" is very low on the list

And your basis for saying that is.....
Have some patience, FFS.

forgetful

Quote from: Herman Cain on March 19, 2019, 10:11:13 AM
Speculation in local paper re: Sean Miller
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/3202186002

All this is so intriguing. Self and Miller were caught red handed, just like Wade at LSU. Self and Miller are still coaching, Wade is not.

This reeks of special treatment for the blue bloods.

If they are indeed also on wiretap, give both Arizona and Kansas the death penalty for doing nothing, despite evidence of wrongdoing. Give LSU a more lenient treatment for doing something about it right away.

LAZER

Quote from: forgetful on March 19, 2019, 12:14:20 PM
All this is so intriguing. Self and Miller were caught red handed, just like Wade at LSU. Self and Miller are still coaching, Wade is not.

This reeks of special treatment for the blue bloods.

If they are indeed also on wiretap, give both Arizona and Kansas the death penalty for doing nothing, despite evidence of wrongdoing. Give LSU a more lenient treatment for doing something about it right away.
Wade's suspension is directly from LSU for not complying with an NCAA investigation, which is a specific clause in his contract.

Herman Cain

Quote from: dgies9156 on March 19, 2019, 10:43:19 AM
Brother Herm, here's the questions on this one:

1) Would Nico Mannion reconsider staying at Arizona if Miller et al are fired?
2) Assuming Miller was fired and the circumstances associated with his firing, would Mannion be immediately eligible?
3) Is the recruitment of Mannion under scrutiny as well?
4) If Arizona is placed on probation with our without Miller, does Mannion immediately become eligible?
5) Do we need him?
6) Do we want him?

As I recall, Nico was a five-star and we were like number 2 behind Arizona to get him. I admit however that my memory may be off slightly.

This poses both an opportunity and a challenge for Wojo. We appear to have a very good team going into next year. If Koby McEwen is the real deal (and I suspect he is) and Greg Elliott comes back stronger than ever, we have a crowded back court.

What do you fellow Scoopers think about this one?
If Nico reopens his recruitment I would expect Stan and Wojo would be pushing hard to land him.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Cheeks

Quote from: forgetful on March 19, 2019, 12:14:20 PM
All this is so intriguing. Self and Miller were caught red handed, just like Wade at LSU. Self and Miller are still coaching, Wade is not.

This reeks of special treatment for the blue bloods.

If they are indeed also on wiretap, give both Arizona and Kansas the death penalty for doing nothing, despite evidence of wrongdoing. Give LSU a more lenient treatment for doing something about it right away.

Why, LSU imposed the suspension...their choice.  UA and KU could do the same.  NCAA is still in fact finding mode, so no special treatment thus far.
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Dr. Blackheart


nyg

Quote from: forgetful on March 19, 2019, 12:14:20 PM
All this is so intriguing. Self and Miller were caught red handed, just like Wade at LSU. Self and Miller are still coaching, Wade is not.

This reeks of special treatment for the blue bloods.

If they are indeed also on wiretap, give both Arizona and Kansas the death penalty for doing nothing, despite evidence of wrongdoing. Give LSU a more lenient treatment for doing something about it right away.

Wait until April when Miller, who has been subpoenaed, has to testify in federal court.  Defense will play wiretap recordings with Miller discussing payments, then bye-bye.  NCAA will probably make recommendations subsequent.

Pakuni

Quote from: nyg on March 19, 2019, 02:01:12 PM
Wait until April when Miller, who has been subpoenaed, has to testify in federal court.  Defense will play wiretap recordings with Miller discussing payments, then bye-bye.  NCAA will probably make recommendations subsequent.

Not necessarily. Depending on what's testified to during trial, those purported recordings may never be admitted into evidence. And subpoenaed or not, Miller may not testify. The Firth Amendment remains a viable (if not likely) option.

muguru

Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2019, 02:14:43 PM
Not necessarily. Depending on what's testified to during trial, those purported recordings may never be admitted into evidence. And subpoenaed or not, Miller may not testify. The Firth Amendment remains a viable (if not likely) option.

This....I'd bet dollars to donuts he pleads the 5th.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

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