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muwarrior69

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Zion
« on: February 21, 2019, 07:00:40 AM »
I think he'll be OK, but what the heck happened to his shoe? Nike seems concerned. Do our guys wear Nikes?

If you think this belongs in the Superbar; move it.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/nike-releases-statement-duke-zion-williamson-rips-through-shoe-injures-knee/1sgpwpx9owh831mefctr9or770
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Re: Zion
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2019, 07:04:32 AM »
Didn't that happen at Marquette, pre Nike?
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Re: Zion
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2019, 07:07:38 AM »
Quote from: Warrior Code on February 21, 2019, 07:04:32 AM
Didn't that happen at Marquette, pre Nike?

Mac tweeted last night that he and Logterman texted about it after seeing the blow-out:

"That happened EVERY DAY with LA Gear #noexaggeration"
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Re: Zion
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2019, 07:08:24 AM »
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 21, 2019, 07:00:40 AM
I think he'll be OK, but what the heck happened to his shoe? Nike seems concerned. Do our guys wear Nikes?

If you think this belongs in the Superbar; move it.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/nike-releases-statement-duke-zion-williamson-rips-through-shoe-injures-knee/1sgpwpx9owh831mefctr9or770

Jordan is a Nike subsidiary so yes they do wear Nikes
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Re: Zion
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 07:12:01 AM »
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 21, 2019, 07:07:38 AM
Mac tweeted last night that he and Logterman texted about it after seeing the blow-out:

"That happened EVERY DAY with LA Gear #noexaggeration"
I remember that.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 07:14:29 AM »
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 21, 2019, 07:07:38 AM
Mac tweeted last night that he and Logterman texted about it after seeing the blow-out:

"That happened EVERY DAY with LA Gear #noexaggeration"

And, it happened most famously in a nationally televised game (we didn't get too many of those in the early 90's).  I'm pretty sure it was Logterman, and I think it was against Kansas.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2019, 07:17:43 AM »
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 21, 2019, 07:00:40 AM
I think he'll be OK, but what the heck happened to his shoe? Nike seems concerned. Do our guys wear Nikes?

If you think this belongs in the Superbar; move it.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/nike-releases-statement-duke-zion-williamson-rips-through-shoe-injures-knee/1sgpwpx9owh831mefctr9or770

Yeah, it's not a good look to have your product completely fail on national television in one of the most highly anticipated sporting events of the year.  Even less so when the product failure results in an injury to the most famous college basketball player in the country.  But, they're Nike, so I'm sure they'll come out of this OK.  If it was a lesser brand, it would probably be more problematic.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2019, 07:22:54 AM »
What if Zion comes back and says I don't trust Nike shoes and refuses to play in them?  Duke and Coach K get a ton of money from Nike for their players to play in Nikes.  Zion gets nothing.  Do Duke and K have to return a boatload of money to Nike?

If not already, this could be an unspeakable disaster for Nike.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2019, 07:28:21 AM »
I am sure all the team managers are busy checking out their team's shoes.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2019, 07:29:52 AM »
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 21, 2019, 07:28:21 AM
I am sure all the team managers are busy checking out their team's shoes.

And how do they do that?  If it is so easy to figure out that a shoe is defective, why didn't Zion figure it out when he was putting it on?
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Re: Zion
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2019, 07:35:21 AM »
Nike will be fine.    They probably will have their R&D people go over the shoe with an electron microscope to figure out what went wrong.      They will announce their findings and that they are taking every possible step (hah!) to see whatever the flaw was doesn't happen again.     At some point, they will probably say something along the lines of they strive to make sure that every item they make is held to a very high quality standard, but sometimes, even through their rigorous quality control program, a flaw can happen. 
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Re: Zion
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2019, 07:51:32 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 07:35:21 AM
Nike will be fine.    They probably will have their R&D people go over the shoe with an electron microscope to figure out what went wrong.      They will announce their findings and that they are taking every possible step (hah!) to see whatever the flaw was doesn't happen again.     At some point, they will probably say something along the lines of they strive to make sure that every item they make is held to a very high quality standard, but sometimes, even through their rigorous quality control program, a flaw can happen.

What is the rigorous quality control that one uses in a Mongolian sweatshop that pays its workers $1/day?

Nike's stock is being quoted down 1.5% in overnight trading from yesterday's NYSE close.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2019, 07:59:37 AM »
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on February 21, 2019, 07:22:54 AM
What if Zion comes back and says I don't trust Nike shoes and refuses to play in them?  Duke and Coach K get a ton of money from Nike for their players to play in Nikes.  Zion gets nothing.

Yes, this is emblamatic of a situation discussed in another thread.

The school and the coach get rich on the back of the athlete-student. All the athlete-student gets out of the relationship, at least in this case, is a busted knee.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2019, 08:09:02 AM »
Yep.   And it brings back the whole argument as to whether Zion should play another game or protect his #1 draft status. 
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Re: Zion
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2019, 08:19:48 AM »
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 21, 2019, 07:00:40 AM
I think he'll be OK, but what the heck happened to his shoe? Nike seems concerned. Do our guys wear Nikes?

If you think this belongs in the Superbar; move it.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/nike-releases-statement-duke-zion-williamson-rips-through-shoe-injures-knee/1sgpwpx9owh831mefctr9or770

My favorite part of this article is that they call Coach K "Coach Mike Mike Krzyzewski"
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Re: Zion
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2019, 08:21:06 AM »
Also, Nike could try saying something like '(shoe X) is designed for mere mortals.   Zion is so amazing with his size and speed that he was too much for this shoe.   Nike looks forward to working with him to design the 'Zion', a shoe that can stand up to 6'7, 280 lbs of blinding quickness.'
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Re: Zion
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2019, 08:21:46 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 08:09:02 AM
Yep.   And it brings back the whole argument as to whether Zion should play another game or protect his #1 draft status.

It's an interesting debate. I wouldn't criticize Zion if he chose not to, but I hope he gets healthy soon and decides to finish the season.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2019, 08:22:51 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 08:21:06 AM
Also, Nike could try saying something like '(shoe X) is designed for mere mortals.   Zion is so amazing with his size and speed that he was too much for this shoe.   Nike looks forward to working with him to design the 'Zion', a shoe that can stand up to 6'7, 280 lbs of blinding quickness.'

This was my first thought as well.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2019, 08:26:31 AM »
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on February 21, 2019, 07:22:54 AM
What if Zion comes back and says I don't trust Nike shoes and refuses to play in them?  Duke and Coach K get a ton of money from Nike for their players to play in Nikes.  Zion gets nothing.  Do Duke and K have to return a boatload of money to Nike?

If not already, this could be an unspeakable disaster for Nike.

Zion got plenty of money from Nike to be at Duke and in Nikes/Nike gear.

Quote from: MU82 on February 21, 2019, 07:59:37 AM
Yes, this is emblamatic of a situation discussed in another thread.

The school and the coach get rich on the back of the athlete-student. All the athlete-student gets out of the relationship, at least in this case, is a busted knee.

I am quite confident Zion got more than just a busted knee from Nike.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2019, 08:32:00 AM »
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 21, 2019, 07:08:24 AM
Jordan is a Nike subsidiary so yes they do wear Nikes

Dook doesnt wear Jordans, UNC does.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2019, 08:35:14 AM »
Quote from: wadesworld on February 21, 2019, 08:26:31 AM
Zion got plenty of money from Nike to be at Duke and in Nikes/Nike gear.

It is insulting to Zion's intelligence and borderline racist to suggest Duke and K get tens of millions of dollars and Zion gets satisfied with a handful of tee-shirts, shoes and sweats.
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Re: Zion
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2019, 08:38:08 AM »
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on February 21, 2019, 08:35:14 AM
It is insulting to Zion's intelligence and borderline racist to suggest Duke and K get tens of millions of dollars and Zion gets satisfied with a handful of tee-shirts, shoes and sweats.

Jeebus, smuggs.  Wade's is not so subtly implying that Nike paid Zion to play at Duke.  Not just Zion getting some warmups.

But racist!!!!
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Re: Zion
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2019, 08:38:29 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2019, 08:21:06 AM
Also, Nike could try saying something like '(shoe X) is designed for mere mortals.   Zion is so amazing with his size and speed that he was too much for this shoe.   Nike looks forward to working with him to design the 'Zion', a shoe that can stand up to 6'7, 280 lbs of blinding quickness.'

He was wearing the Nike PG 2.5.  This is Paul George's branded shoe.

So the shoe was built to handed the stresses of George (6'10 230) but not Zion.  So, Nike will make a clever campaign that insults George as being inferior to Zion?
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Re: Zion
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2019, 08:39:44 AM »
Isn't there a video of JFB busting his shoe the same way while running suicides at boot camp, and Buzz's only reaction was that he didn't finish in time, and had to re-run it?
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Re: Zion
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2019, 08:43:51 AM »
Quote from: Rick Majerus' Towel on February 21, 2019, 08:35:14 AM
It is insulting to Zion's intelligence and borderline racist to suggest Duke and K get tens of millions of dollars and Zion gets satisfied with a handful of tee-shirts, shoes and sweats.

Racist?  Lol.  I'm not sure I'll even address this since you're clearly in it for the shock value.
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