Beating Bucky ugly

[Milkshakes]

Just watched the game again. The thing that really stands out to me is that the guys got good shots (for the most part, Markus did force some but even those are shots he can make) they just didn't make them. Shooting is streaky and they are in a bad streak and yet are winning. If the shots start falling again they could be good. I am sure there will be some fun streaks this year.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

"Between the flipping and dirty play, Davison makes me embarrassed to be a Badger fan"

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Not so sure about that.  On big games, they have traditionally checked student IDs before they let kids into the student section. If they sneaked in and started acting obnoxious, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the students ratted them out.

Also, if it was a stunt, wouldn't they have done it during a timeout and showed it on the Jumbotron?  IIRC correctlly, I saw it happening while there was a stoppage in play.

Usually it's a celebratory cream pie.  We won so I guess we can file it under that.

[warriorchick]

People should really stop worrying about what Badger fans say.

Do what I do.  Use it for entertainment purposes only.

[Otule's Glass Eye]

There's some really entertaining posts in the game thread of their 247 board, worth the read

[fjm]

There's some really entertaining posts in the game thread of their 247 board, worth the read

Hook us up with the link

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Hook us up with the link

https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Board/103802/Contents/Wisconsin-Marquette-live-game-day-chat-126077495/

Lot of crying about the refs when the game was called pretty evenly, they must have forgotten the NC State Davison flop game already

[Otule's Glass Eye]

also Eric the Red called MU a mid major, must have forgotten their conference hasn't won a natty since 2000 and ours has 2 of the last 3

[TSmith34, Inc.]

also Eric the Red called MU a mid major, must have forgotten their conference hasn't won a natty since 2000 and ours has 2 of the last 3

That dude is an utter tool.

[brewcity77]

also Eric the Red called MU a mid major, must have forgotten their conference hasn't won a natty since 2000 and ours has 2 of the last 3

A mid-major that the Big 10 has an annual challenge with, that has their annual tournament in the arena the Big 10 had to change their entire schedule just to play in on low-major weekend, and a mid-major that has beat them three of the last four times we've seen them. If we're a mid-major, then I assume Wisconsin must be a low-major.

[naginiF]

That dude is an utter tool.

you meant "udder tool" right?

[WarriorInNYC]

Not so sure about that.  On big games, they have traditionally checked student IDs before they let kids into the student section. If they sneaked in and started acting obnoxious, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the students ratted them out.

Also, if it was a stunt, wouldn't they have done it during a timeout and showed it on the Jumbotron?  IIRC correctlly, I saw it happening while there was a stoppage in play.

The thing with the pie was a total stunt.  That was during a timeout and had the camera on the jumbotron before he switched shirts, then the pie came.  It was a clear stunt, though I thought was still quite well done.

I think there were other examples of students wearing red getting kicked out of the student section.  I get why they don't want them in the student section, it's generally not a good idea.  I do hope they were able to relocate them elsewhere and they didn't have to completely leave the FF.

[TallTitan34]

Adding to my strong dislike of John Dodds, I'm 95% sure he gave the Badger fans in front of me tickets to the game. The Badger fan had the text size on his phone set to maximum and I could see him and "John Dodds" texting back and forth. I guess it's possible there is another a-hole out there with the name John Dodds.

Dodds gets quoted in articles saying "it's five times bigger than the Super Bowl" (which is stupid) then gets tickets for opposing fans.

I will always dispise that man.

[NorthernDancerColt]

also Eric the Red called MU a mid major, must have forgotten their conference hasn't won a natty since 2000 and ours has 2 of the last 3

EricTheRed is a borderline psychopath. His level of self-loathing is off the charts. He made that "mid-major" jab by saying that Strickland's game dominates against "Fla HS competition" but cant suffice against us. So, in the same breath he is ripping apart his own player while miserably failing at simple logic. Surely Florida HS stardom prepares one to play mid-major competition.

He and others go on to say that Theo John could have, probably should have been a Badger (they must've cooled on him) but that he is nothing special. Classic UW ex-post-facto logic. More double-talk from a conflicted fan base.

He then brings up how unwelcome MU makes Badger fans.....he even references Bill Cords rolling up the UW Hockey banners at the old Bradley Center. As if one can imagine MU banners being allowed to hang at the KOHL hole.

He chalks up the powerful Morrow rebound bucket (amongst 4 Badgers) to.....drum roll....."crap-ass luck".

If EricTheRed were an isolated anomaly amongst Badger fans, one could understand. However, much of the fan base exhibits similar pathology.

[WarriorFan]

A couple thoughts I had from this game:

Joey was described somewhere on this board last year as a little bigger, a little better and a little more athletic than Sam.  I think we're starting to see this and it's gonna be good.

Ed "found himself".

Marcus needs to be more efficient himself and needs to play more of a team game.

Sam just had a Sam game.  Again.  which is no surprise at all.  I predict at least 10 more double doubles for him and it will just be the expectation.

Heldt looks injured.  He wasn't that slow last year.

When was the last MU team that played D and out-rebounded opponents? 

I'll say the same thing I said about KState... Bucky is not worthy of a 12 ranking.  That's not bias either.  I've watched them a couple times and they just aren't that good.  They'll finish 19-24 ish - probably.

[MUDPT]

EricTheRed is a borderline psychopath. His level of self-loathing is off the charts. He made that "mid-major" jab by saying that Strickland's game dominates against "Fla HS competition" but cant suffice against us. So, in the same breath he is ripping apart his own player while miserably failing at simple logic. Surely Florida HS stardom prepares one to play mid-major competition.

He and others go on to say that Theo John could have, probably should have been a Badger (they must've cooled on him) but that he is nothing special. Classic UW ex-post-facto logic. More double-talk from a conflicted fan base.

He then brings up how unwelcome MU makes Badger fans.....he even references Bill Cords rolling up the UW Hockey banners at the old Bradley Center. As if one can imagine MU banners being allowed to hang at the KOHL hole.

He chalks up the powerful Morrow rebound bucket (amongst 4 Badgers) to.....drum roll....."crap-ass luck".

If EricTheRed were an isolated anomaly amongst Badger fans, one could understand. However, much of the fan base exhibits similar pathology.

Also claiming that MU went out of their way not to sell any tickets to UW fans. It's been at least 10 years since there were any public tickets for this game. Only STHs or mini plans...

[warriorchick]

The thing with the pie was a total stunt.  That was during a timeout and had the camera on the jumbotron before he switched shirts, then the pie came.  It was a clear stunt, though I thought was still quite well done.

I think there were other examples of students wearing red getting kicked out of the student section.  I get why they don't want them in the student section, it's generally not a good idea.  I do hope they were able to relocate them elsewhere and they didn't have to completely leave the FF.

Oh, I knew that the pie thing was a total stunt. I was referring to the other kids getting kicked out.

And I like the choreographed stunts and think they should do more. At Bulls games, Benny has a bit were he "accidentally" spills a 40-gallon bag of popcorn on someone in the crowd. It would be hilarious if the Golden Eagle did this every game to an unsuspecting fan of the other team.

[jsglow]

A couple thoughts I had from this game:

Joey was described somewhere on this board last year as a little bigger, a little better and a little more athletic than Sam.  I think we're starting to see this and it's gonna be good.

Ed "found himself".

Marcus needs to be more efficient himself and needs to play more of a team game.

Sam just had a Sam game.  Again.  which is no surprise at all.  I predict at least 10 more double doubles for him and it will just be the expectation.

Heldt looks injured.  He wasn't that slow last year.

When was the last MU team that played D and out-rebounded opponents? 

I'll say the same thing I said about KState... Bucky is not worthy of a 12 ranking.  That's not bias either.  I've watched them a couple times and they just aren't that good.  They'll finish 19-24 ish - probably.

Yes he was.  (And the milkman is among my favorite players.   )

Let me add, I hate Bucky and some of their players (Davison) more than just about anything.  But I've got to give total props to Ethan Happ.  The dude is absolutely incredible at the collegiate level.  With the exception of free throws and a need to improve his rebounding perhaps, I can't remember seeing a big guy with that skill set.  Passes as well as most guards, runs the floor very effectively, and has the best big man footwork and soft touch that I can remember.  Truly a joy to watch.  And kudos to our guys in keeping everyone else in check because he was clearly the best player on the floor Saturday.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I'll say the same thing I said about KState... Bucky is not worthy of a 12 ranking.  That's not bias either.  I've watched them a couple times and they just aren't that good.  They'll finish 19-24 ish - probably.

They have one stud AA,  After that, a bunch of role players and just guys.  They will really struggle without Happ next year, though Iverson may be a case of addition by subtraction.  And they are somehow expecting the #302 ranked freshman to be a major contributor.

[jsglow]

They have one stud AA,  After that, a bunch of role players and just guys.  They will really struggle without Happ next year, though Iverson may be a case of addition by subtraction.  And they are somehow expecting the #302 ranked freshman to be a major contributor.

True dat.  They look like they will really struggle next year.  But we've been prematurely calling for their demise for years so there's that to consider.

[MU82]

People should really stop worrying about what Badger fans say.

And about confetti and other silliness.

We have a very good, fun-to-watch team that's very easy to root for. I can't figure out why folks are searching for negatives like effen confetti (if it even is a "negative").

[brewcity77]

They have one stud AA,  After that, a bunch of role players and just guys.  They will really struggle without Happ next year, though Iverson may be a case of addition by subtraction.  And they are somehow expecting the #302 ranked freshman to be a major contributor.

I'm not there yet. Trice, Davison, & Reuvers will all be juniors and they have some decent depth around them. I think Reuvers could the next in that line of Leuer/Berggren/Kaminsky/Happ bigs that contributes in multiple ways and is a star upperclassman. We should be the better team next year, but it will be on the road against a team that can compete for a NCAA bid, and when they come back to the FF they'll have an experienced squad of seniors. I think writing them off because of Happ is premature. They're in okay shape (not great, but not the total end of an era).

[JakeBarnes]

I'm not there yet. Trice, Davison, & Reuvers will all be juniors and they have some decent depth around them. I think Reuvers could the next in that line of Leuer/Berggren/Kaminsky/Happ bigs that contributes in multiple ways and is a star upperclassman. We should be the better team next year, but it will be on the road against a team that can compete for a NCAA bid, and when they come back to the FF they'll have an experienced squad of seniors. I think writing them off because of Happ is premature. They're in okay shape (not great, but not the total end of an era).

Agreed on Reuvers. He has a lot more game than I thought, and the confidence to go with it. He's gonna be a pain in our backside next year and will likely have to go small to guard him (or just have Joey do it).

2020 class is going to determine how it shakes out for both teams. Would love to get some early commits for our own 2020 class to ensure we are in good standing.

[WarriorInNYC]

Oh, I knew that the pie thing was a total stunt. I was referring to the other kids getting kicked out.

And I like the choreographed stunts and think they should do more. At Bulls games, Benny has a bit were he "accidentally" spills a 40-gallon bag of popcorn on someone in the crowd. It would be hilarious if the Golden Eagle did this every game to an unsuspecting fan of the other team.

Gotcha, I misinterpreted your post then.

And agreed, I think they're well done.  A few of the Badger fans went nuts when the guy ripped off the MU shirt and had the badger shirt on underneath, but then the pie came and it was great.

[mu03eng]

I'm not there yet. Trice, Davison, & Reuvers will all be juniors and they have some decent depth around them. I think Reuvers could the next in that line of Leuer/Berggren/Kaminsky/Happ bigs that contributes in multiple ways and is a star upperclassman. We should be the better team next year, but it will be on the road against a team that can compete for a NCAA bid, and when they come back to the FF they'll have an experienced squad of seniors. I think writing them off because of Happ is premature. They're in okay shape (not great, but not the total end of an era).

I'm the other way, granted I have watched almost no Badger basketball this year, but that team looks like it's gonna be driving the struggle bus next year. I think they are gonna have to go back to a pure swing offense which will mitigate some of the issues but they are just not going to have much talent next year and likely the year after that.