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Cheeks

So who is staying in Toronto and who is going to the Lakers?
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst



4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

JWags85

Quote from: GB Warrior on June 25, 2019, 06:59:52 PM
Ryan Hollins sucks

https://twitter.com/FirstTake/status/1143590726707687424?s=19

That's not even my favorite, this is
Alex Murphy (@amurph164) Tweeted:
@natemarzion But wait, THERE'S MORE! https://t.co/gGt4zdUC73

"Ryan Hollis, 14 seconds played...load management"

Jockey

Great piece on HBO Real Sports about Don Nelson.

A true stoner.

MU82

Reports are that the Hornets are "only" willing to offer Kemba $170 million over 5 years, which is "only" $30 million more than the Lakers, Celtics and Mavs could offer him over 4 years. Speculation is that Kemba, who has said multiple times that he wants to stay in Charlotte and would take "a little less money" to do so, will leave.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2019, 09:21:14 AM
Reports are that the Hornets are "only" willing to offer Kemba $170 million over 5 years, which is "only" $30 million more than the Lakers, Celtics and Mavs could offer him over 4 years. Speculation is that Kemba, who has said multiple times that he wants to stay in Charlotte and would take "a little less money" to do so, will leave.

Looks like he's going to Boston. The Celt's will be a better team with Kemba instead of Irving. Look for Brown and Tatum to flourish alongside Kemba.

GB Warrior

Quote from: Jockey on June 29, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
Looks like he's going to Boston. The Celt's will be a better team with Kemba instead of Irving. Look for Brown and Tatum to flourish alongside Kemba.

If I'm Horford, I'm opting back into that.

MU82

Quote from: Jockey on June 29, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
Looks like he's going to Boston. The Celt's will be a better team with Kemba instead of Irving. Look for Brown and Tatum to flourish alongside Kemba.

Yep on all of that.

Kemba truly is a team-oriented player who wants to make those around him better. He shot more the last couple of years because he had to (and that only after working tirelessly to become a reliable 3-point threat), but he was not a ball-hog.

Kemba is a winner. He didn't have enough help to win in Charlotte, but he is a winner, and he will win big-time in Boston.

I'd take him over Kyrie without hesitation; heck, the Celtics were better without Kyrie and they didn't even have a player like Kemba to replace him.

I'm gonna miss him in Charlotte, but I understand why they aren't offering him the max -- they would be in salary-cap hell, and would not win any more than they have been -- and I'm genuinely happy for him that he'll have a chance to be on a very good team.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

Splash Mountain back with the Bucks.

MUBurrow

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 30, 2019, 03:45:14 PM
Splash Mountain back with the Bucks.

Four years, $52M is a lot of Brook Lopez. He was awesome, but I'll look to others on here that are smarter on the cap for what this means for the Bucks flexibility. I assume this means that only one of Middleton and Brogdon are staying (likely Middleton because of the unique way he would count against the cap?) and little to no flexibility to add pieces for the rest of Giannis's contract?

CreightonWarrior

Middleton also coming back.

Dish

That Middleton situation was damned if you do, damned if you don't. Good for him getting a truckload of cash, but years 4/5 of that deal...ugh.

Mr. Nielsen

Malcolm Brogdon has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal with Indiana.

Indiana is trading a first-round and two future second round picks to the Milwaukee for Malcolm Brogdon.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on June 30, 2019, 05:44:13 PM
Malcolm Brogdon has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal with Indiana.

Indiana is trading a first-round and two future second round picks to the Milwaukee for Malcolm Brogdon.

bad deal!!!  we needed to keep malcolm!!!  love the guy!!!
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

and the bucks had no draft picks.  connaughton must be feeling a little better and that's ok.  the guy is energy + and adds a lot coming off the bench. 

need to get better shooting out of bledsoe. 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

MU82

Wow ... those are some huge contracts.

Timing matters on these things. Nic Batum became a free agent right after he had the best year of his career and helped the Hornets to a 48-win season. They pretty much had to sign him ... but he couldn't live up to the contract and it's a major albatross for the organization.

In baseball, similar happened with Joe Mauer; he had several outstanding years, capped by his career year right as his contract expired. The Twins HAD to keep their home-town hero ... and he spent the next 8 years as an outrageously overpaid, injury-prone slap-hitter who couldn't even play catcher any more.

It happens, so I hope it doesn't happen to the Bucks with Lopez and Middleton.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Cheeks

It's amazing how many guys have career years the last year of their contracts....eh?
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

wadesworld

Larry Bird, Steph Curry, Reggie Miller, KD, Steve Nash, Dirk, Mark Price, and Malcolm Brogdon. That's the list of players to ever go 50/40/90. And the Bucks had a chance to keep one of them on their team who was the 2nd best player in the Playoffs for an ECF team for $21M/season while we're willing to pay Middleton $35.6M/season.

If there was ever a time for the Bucks to go big time it was this year. You come off an ECF, the Nets are a year away from being the best team in the East, Giannis is a year away from being eligible to sign a supermax extension. You run it back, win the East, and get Giannis to sign long term. Instead we want to stay out of the tax and show Giannis how small time we are.

There will be more moves made but I don't see anyone coming in as good as Brogdon.

cheebs09

I think the foot issues probably contributed to the Bucks not wanting to pay that contract.

4everwarriors

Didant seam ta concern daPacers, doe, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUfan12

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 30, 2019, 08:01:26 PM
Didant seam ta concern daPacers, doe, aina?

Not too surprised after Bogdanovic went to Utah. They had cash to spend and needed a shooter next to Oladipo.

That said, the Bucks got a great deal. Three picks and you don't have to pay Brogdon to miss 25 games per year.

4everwarriors

Sew far, Bucks didant address der short comin's orr get bedder. Just like da Brew Crew two, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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