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Author Topic: NBA Thread 2018-19  (Read 29739 times)

MUeagle1090

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NBA Thread 2018-19
« on: October 23, 2018, 09:21:23 PM »
We have one for baseball and football so figured I would start this one.

The Bucks are fun.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2018, 09:41:39 PM »
Griffin lays 50 tonight. Maybe Doc don't know trades, hey?

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2018, 10:12:54 AM »

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2018, 12:39:07 PM »

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2018, 01:19:57 PM »
I really wish I could've heard Budenholzer's thoughts out loud and uncensored the first time he saw the Bucks working out.  Or the first time he sat down to watch film from last year's Bucks season as the new coach of the Bucks.

The guy could be an average NBA coach, but he's going to look like Greg Popovich combined with Brad Stevens just by how awful Kidd/Prunty were.

Force teams to take midrange jumpers?  Don't concede corner 3 pointers, the shortest and most efficient shot in the NBA?  Space the floor around your once in a lifetime freak athlete?  Preach ball movement and perimeter shooting?  What concepts!

Kidd/Prunty were playing Snell/Delly over Brogdon.  What a joke.

Also, as big as it was to get Ersan on the Bucks, it was just as big to get him off of the 6ers, as well as Belinelli.  That team is AWFUL shooting the ball outside of 8 feet.  Simmons trying to finish anything going right is painful to watch.  Fultz looks like he has no confidence whatsoever.  The fact that they start Fultz over Reddick is hilarious, ESPECIALLY given the makeup of the roster.

The Bucks finally made smart offseason moves and they already look like a completely different team.  Should be a fun season.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2018, 01:30:41 PM »
Ersan and Donte are nice upgrades to this lineup.  I think they fit what the Bucks are trying to do much better than the likes of Snell, who IMO can still develop a role.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2018, 02:20:29 PM »
Ersan and Donte are nice upgrades to this lineup.  I think they fit what the Bucks are trying to do much better than the likes of Snell, who IMO can still develop a role.

Agreed.  What I like most about Donte is he's a great rebounder for a guard, and he doesn't need shots to contribute.  Really smart playmaker.  Don't think he's ever a featured player in an offense, but think he'll contribute for a number of years.

This team's rebounding should be really good.  Lopez doesn't get rebounds, but he clears out space for everyone else to grab them and get the ball up the floor early.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2018, 05:34:27 PM »
4 first round picks for Jimmy B? Sheesh

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2018, 08:53:36 PM »
4 first round picks for Jimmy B? Sheesh

The Rockets see the schism between them and the Warriors growing, not narrowing, and they are desperate to win while they have Harden and Paul.

Plus, teams that assume a trade will keep them winning for years don't value first-round picks as highly. There are exceptions, to be sure, but most of the best players are drafted in the first half of the first round. Finally, they can only give up a first-rounder every other year (by NBA rules), so they still will have plenty of first-rounders over the next several years.

One could argue that the Rockets need another 3-point shooter more than Jimmy, but he'd immediately help their lousy defense, and he of course is a great offensive player too.
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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2018, 09:53:36 PM »
The Rockets see the schism between them and the Warriors growing, not narrowing, and they are desperate to win while they have Harden and Paul.

Plus, teams that assume a trade will keep them winning for years don't value first-round picks as highly. There are exceptions, to be sure, but most of the best players are drafted in the first half of the first round. Finally, they can only give up a first-rounder every other year (by NBA rules), so they still will have plenty of first-rounders over the next several years.

One could argue that the Rockets need another 3-point shooter more than Jimmy, but he'd immediately help their lousy defense, and he of course is a great offensive player too.

Jimmy walks in there as the cock of the walk.
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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2018, 10:18:30 PM »
Plus, teams that assume a trade will keep them winning for years don't value first-round picks as highly. There are exceptions, to be sure, but most of the best players are drafted in the first half of the first round. Finally, they can only give up a first-rounder every other year (by NBA rules), so they still will have plenty of first-rounders over the next several years.

Saw they would have to offer 2019, 2021, 2023 and 2025, and they'd all have to be unprotected. That unprotected part is gigantic, and for me tips the scales on making this a bad offer.  First rounders for the next couple of years? Fine, they'll be at worst a middling playoff team so who cares.

But offering unprotected first rounders 5 and 7 years down the road is tremendously risky. A lot will change during that time, and I probably wouldn't trade a single first overall pick for JFB now, taking his contract into account.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2018, 10:42:01 AM »
Update from Woj that the "lottery protections around the four picks would be limited." Whatever that means.

Either way, Chris Thompson made the good point on deadspin that this offer highlights the conflict of interest when you make your head coach your GM/top personnel decision maker. In terms of player and draft capital, Min has to make this move. Even taking Butler out of the equation, this would boil down to Kris Dunn, expensive Zach Lavine, and moving down from 7 to 16 in 2017 for four first rounders. No GM passes that up. But when your "GM" is your coach, and that coach is Thibs who doesn't hesitate to put another 250 miles on his star's legs in April just to stay out of the lottery, well...

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2018, 10:54:09 AM »
So, the Bucks are 4-0 and the Bulls are 1-3.  That was a short Chicago vs. Milwaukee pissng thread.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2018, 11:45:18 AM »
So, the Bucks are 4-0 and the Bulls are 1-3.  That was a short Chicago vs. Milwaukee pissng thread.

Have some faith.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2018, 12:48:48 PM »
So, the Bucks are 4-0 and the Bulls are 1-3.  That was a short Chicago vs. Milwaukee pissng thread.

Did anyone honestly expect any differently? I've been a Pelicans fan for about the past 5 years because of the ineptitude of the Bulls management.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2018, 12:57:37 PM »
Did anyone honestly expect any differently? I've been a Pelicans fan for about the past 5 years because of the ineptitude of the Bulls management.


The Pelicans front office is of pretty much the same caliber as the Bulls.  It's just that they have Anthony Davis.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2018, 07:51:23 PM »

The Pelicans front office is of pretty much the same caliber as the Bulls.  It's just that they have Anthony Davis.

At least Demps tried with Boogie. I actually think their squad is pretty solid this season.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2018, 08:30:52 PM »
This is the first I’ve watched of the Wolves, but Jimmy’s “leadership” this offseason certainly wasn’t effective if this is any indication. Goodness gracious this team is checked out 5 games into the season.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2018, 06:14:48 AM »
This is the first I’ve watched of the Wolves, but Jimmy’s “leadership” this offseason certainly wasn’t effective if this is any indication. Goodness gracious this team is checked out 5 games into the season.

They have to trade him, obviously. Hard to imagine them getting a better offer than the Rockets' offer, but maybe.
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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2018, 12:12:21 PM »
Jimmy Butler was a nice and humble kid when he got to MU.  And he's got a great story of rising above overwhelming odds to make it huge.   Then he allowed the toxic attitude and ego of vast majority of NBA stars that enable him to become the giant douchebag he is today. 

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2018, 12:12:57 PM »
Jimmy Butler was a nice and humble kid when he got to MU.  And he's got a great story of rising above overwhelming odds to make it huge.   Then he allowed the toxic attitude and ego of vast majority of NBA stars that enabled him to become the giant douchebag he is today.

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2018, 12:40:37 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2018, 12:42:24 PM »
Misposted in the top 20 players thread re: the Lakers and upcoming free agents.

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Agreed, I just don't think the LAL are trash, and have better players than people realize.

Next two summer's FA has the possibility for the biggest in terms of potential shifting of the tide...

Tier 1
~KD
~Klay
~Kyrie
~Kwaai
~Cousins*

Tier 2
~Jimmy
~Kemba

And then in 2020 you have Draymond and AD...

Wades, do you see a shift back to the East (BOS, Philly, MKE) competing for titles say in the next few years?  Probably depends where KD and AD land, right?

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2018, 12:44:35 PM »
I would not put Klay anywhere near tier one until he can prove he can play on a team without 3 other allstars.

The only reason he gets as much space as he does is because of Curry, KD and co.

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Re: NBA Thread 2018-19
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2018, 12:50:59 PM »
It’s like you retweeted yourself.

I know, hit quote apparently when I meant to modify.  :)