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MUBurrow

Quote from: wadesworld on November 12, 2018, 08:57:38 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25201321/why-jimmy-butler-not-solve-philadelphia-76ers-biggest-problem-nba

Said it before and still feel this way, the Sixers adding Jimmy doesn't scare me as a Bucks fan.  They now have 1 shooter on their roster, and that shooter is a one trick pony.  Stay attached to Reddick and sag off of everyone else.  They added a slasher that needs the ball in his hands to a team that was full of slashers that need the ball in their hands and removed 2 of their 3 best shooters in a league where shooting is the most important aspect of the game.

And good luck talking extension with Jimmy.  5 months is a loooooong time to keep that guy happy.

Agreed.  Its going to take Elton Brand 2 years to finish what the Colangelos started and spend all of the assets Philadelphia accumulated with #theprocess.  (I place some blame on the Colangelos because I don't think Hinkie would have ever used the 2017 pick that became Fultz).

MU82

Quote from: wadesworld on November 12, 2018, 08:57:38 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25201321/why-jimmy-butler-not-solve-philadelphia-76ers-biggest-problem-nba

Said it before and still feel this way, the Sixers adding Jimmy doesn't scare me as a Bucks fan.  They now have 1 shooter on their roster, and that shooter is a one trick pony.  Stay attached to Reddick and sag off of everyone else.  They added a slasher that needs the ball in his hands to a team that was full of slashers that need the ball in their hands and removed 2 of their 3 best shooters in a league where shooting is the most important aspect of the game.

And good luck talking extension with Jimmy.  5 months is a loooooong time to keep that guy happy.

Agree with much here, but I still think it's a good (perhaps great) deal for Philly if (maybe big if) team chemistry is OK.

Jimmy isn't really a "shooter," but he is .378 from 3 this season after .350 and .367 previous two years, and has full-year .381 and .378 percentages earlier in his Chicago career. In other words, not too shabby behind the arc. (Larry Bird's career 3% was .376.)

Embiid can hit 3s - indeed, he just hit a game-tying one against the Hornets in a game the Sixers won in OT - but I do think he generally is doing opponents a favor every time he fires from deep.

Certainly, the Sixers' best lineup -- Butler, Simmons, Embiid, Reddick, Fultz/Shamet -- does not have enough shooters by today's NBA standards.

Then again, it's early. Much easier to find complementary players on the market in the coming months than stars such as Jimmy. Who's to say that by Feb-Mar-Apr the Sixers won't have added a couple of Korver/Ellington types?

I don't think a team passes on getting a multiple All-Star in his prime when all it costs is complementary players.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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wadesworld

#127
I think both Covington and Saric are underrated.

I also would love to see the 76ers add Carmelo like they're rumored to be interested in doing if/when he's cut by the Rockets.  Butler, Embiid, Simmons, Carmelo all on 1 team?  That locker room would be fuuuuun!

MU82

Quote from: wadesworld on November 12, 2018, 10:56:14 AM
I think both Covington and Saric are underrated.

I also would love to see the 76ers add Carmelo like they're rumored to be interested in doing if/when he's cut by the Rockets.  Butler, Embiid, Simmons, Carmelo all on 1 team?  That locker room would be fuuuuun!

Can't argue with that, wades. I certainly see why the Knicks wanted him a few years back, but I don't really get why so many other franchises these days seem so willing to consider a volume-shooting, defense-averse ball hog who whines a lot and is well past his prime.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

brewcity77

Quote from: MUBurrow on November 12, 2018, 09:54:19 AM
Agreed.  Its going to take Elton Brand 2 years to finish what the Colangelos started and spend all of the assets Philadelphia accumulated with #theprocess.  (I place some blame on the Colangelos because I don't think Hinkie would have ever used the 2017 pick that became Fultz).

It's just so weird to think of Elton Brand as a GM. That's when you know you're getting old, when the guys you watched in college as an adult are done with NBA careers and on to front office jobs.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: wadesworld on November 12, 2018, 10:56:14 AM
I think both Covington and Saric are underrated.

I also would love to see the 76ers add Carmelo like they're rumored to be interested in doing if/when he's cut by the Rockets.  Butler, Embiid, Simmons, Carmelo all on 1 team?  That locker room would be fuuuuun!

Why any contender would even consider Melo right now is beyond me.

The only thing that maybe makes sense in terms of generating a modicum of fan interest is Melo to the Wizards since they're already a dumpster fire and he's from the vicinity. But even at 4-9 they're still very much in the hunt in the East so why do it from their perspective?

Would the Suns do it just to maybe drive some marginal ticket sales? Maybe? Cleveland same thing? Would he go to either? Tough to see where he fits at all. Might be time to head to China and build the global brand.

CreightonWarrior

Quite the contrast of halves for the Bucks last night. Bud really laid into the team at halftime and they responded nicely.

GB Warrior

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on November 17, 2018, 06:39:28 AM
Quite the contrast of halves for the Bucks last night. Bud really laid into the team at halftime and they responded nicely.

Players were saying that he was still mad after the game. Very different levels of accountability from the previous coach. He knows this team can't just rest on its laurels if it wants to go places...and that they should have won by 40

GGGG

I love the court they were using yesterday.

jsglow

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on November 17, 2018, 06:39:28 AM
Quite the contrast of halves for the Bucks last night. Bud really laid into the team at halftime and they responded nicely.

They'd earned it.  And pretty much to a man acknowledged that after the game.  Let's hope it was a constructive 'lessons learned'.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


ChitownSpaceForRent

#137
Quote from: Sultan of South Wayne on November 17, 2018, 10:48:58 PM
JFB

https://twitter.com/TheLyons_Den/status/1063993972966785024

Can we take a moment to appreciate the Hornets for bringing back their old court though? That thing is a beaut.

Also, I know MU82 is on a little vacation, but his Kemba>Klay take looks reaaaal good.

cheebs09

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 17, 2018, 11:23:41 PM
Can we take a moment to appreciate the Hornets for bringing back their old court though? That thing is a beaut.

Also, I know MU82 is on a little vacation, but his Kemba>Klay take looks reaaaal good.

That was my takeaway from the video. That was beautiful.

Also, that was an awesome play.

tower912

Butler showing why Philly wanted him.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JWags85

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 17, 2018, 11:23:41 PM
Can we take a moment to appreciate the Hornets for bringing back their old court though? That thing is a beaut.

Everything Charlotte did going back to the Hornets, was perfect now that they have the jerseys and the court. Just gorgeous. Now if only they could be some legit talent around Kemba.

Quote from: tower912 on November 18, 2018, 09:29:12 AM
Butler showing why Philly wanted him.

Safe to say he has arrived. Has a beast game on Friday night, and then last night wasn't playing that well but turns it on for a game saving defensive play and the game winner. What a killer.

Love all the critics and haters saying "It's Embiid's team, Butler is going to have to just play a supporting role which he won't like and he'll kill that team". Yea Embiid is the best player, but acting like that precludes Jimmy from being a leader and having moments like this is just asinine.

wadesworld

R-E-L-A-X.  It's 3 games.  Glad Jimmy can claim to be happy after 3 games in Philly.  Let's see how happy he is in a month or 2.

jesmu84


Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

GB Warrior

#144
My excitement at unloading Delly and Henson's contracts is tempered by the fact that the bucks have to get Dekker back. Can they just waive him?

Not wild about the first rounder but it was necessary. Now the team can enter "go for it" mode

Edit: just kidding, Dekker to Washington. There is a god

4everwarriors

Bucks goin' four it, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

TAMU, Knower of Ball

First rounder for  George Hill seems steep but the salary dump makes it worth it
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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reinko

Cleared 18mil in cap space for next year...well worth it

GB Warrior

Quote from: reinko on December 07, 2018, 06:51:10 PM
Cleared 18mil in cap space for next year...well worth it

And a legitimate contributor in Hill for the remainder of 2018.

wadesworld

Quote from: GB Warrior on December 07, 2018, 07:16:34 PM
And a legitimate contributor in Hill for the remainder of 2018.

Ehh.

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